25 Mar 2014, 13:05#2
Willemse ... usually a penalty machine was well captained.
Impressive. Best I've seen him play.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2014, 14:44#3
Yes all three are good. Add in Etzebeth, Du Toit Flip and Bekker and what a storehouse of locks we have. Now if only wee victor would retire for good!Du Plessis should repalce Alberts if we need big 7. His work rate is VASTLY superior.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2014, 15:01#5
He would make a great lock doubtless. He is going to be a great player. No show pony this. He grafts all 80 minutes like Schalk. If Etzebeth and Du Toit become the lock pairing then maybe Du Plessis stays at 7 and fills in at lock at times before switching there as the year pass by. Wealso have Alberts and Lood - both young. So how do we use these players. Du Toit could also play 7.Certainly Du Plessis would be a big improvement on Alberts.
Provided injuries do not blow us out odf the water a terrific Bok pack should be in place for world cup.
All spells eina for the wee kiwis!
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2014, 15:07#6
Just a pity Lood kept losing the ball on the Blues line.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2014, 15:45#7
Lood had a fantastic game as the commentators kept pointing out
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2014, 20:30#8
Lood was playing against very weak locks and had a decent game, but lost the ball weakly near the line. You have to take into account the opponents. The same was true of Willemse. If these guys perform against top quality locks in big games, I'll start getting excited.
25 Mar 2014, 20:47#9
du Plessis is a massive 20 year old - lets hope he doesn't get overplayed and injured . Prefer his athleticism over the other two, with Willemse next.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2014, 22:42#11
Mozart
The ranking of our young locks are not what you give it out to be. It is as follows:-
Etzebeth, Du Toit, De Jager, Willemse, Du Plessis in that order.
First of all Du Plessis has not played a single game for any senior team at lock and he is not a tried and tested lock. He has the physique - but he is not a proven lock at all. Willemse thus far had three games at lock for the Bulls and has yet to prove himself against the top locks De Jager played against and did well throughout virtually all Super 15 teams.
When you make a statement like that - it is always wiser to use logic and not prejudice as a basis to make it.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2014, 23:05#12
It's a speculation OOm ...a guess as to who will be the most successful over time....not a dog simple ranking of who has played the most S15 rugby. Can you grasp that?
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2014, 23:14#13
Mozart
Nice escape mechanism - but it holds no water. You were possibly speculating and not base your arguments on anything of substance. That type of thing should in somr way relates to realities - not speculation.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2014, 23:30#14
Well when you might just scroll up and observe that Matey started the ranking exercise by saying he preferred Du Plessis over Lood and Willemse. He was speculating...I merely continued that thread of reasoning. You have moved the goalposts to a less interesting ranking...go ahead...but it's boring.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2014, 23:38#15
I'd rank them Etzebeth, PSDT, Lood, du Plessis, Willemse