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The Breakdown: Dissecting the All Blacks Springboks draw

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
04 Aug 2019, 14:48
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04 Aug 2019, 14:48#1



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
04 Aug 2019, 14:51
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04 Aug 2019, 14:51#2

Some insightful discussion on the Springboks umbrella defense. Also how the All Blacks could use the blindside more to get overlaps. The Boks close down the openside well, but there are some gaps on the blindside. 



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2019, 15:07
#3
04 Aug 2019, 15:07#3
Interesting segment on the Bok defence. We will have to watch for Barrett on the loop in the WC opener.....with his pace and the Bok wing pinching in, the opportunity is there. Sexton also does this really well but more as a link. Barrett presents a long range threat against the pinch defence.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 17:02
#4
04 Aug 2019, 17:02#4

SB

They said they can use the blindside better - but not a word about the fact that there are gaps on the blindside.  Fact is there are comments about the Springboks as well that is equally important - three of which were -

*   that the Springboks improved massively from where they were two years ago; 

*   that Erasmus did a magnificent job with the team; and 

*   that all players take part in all aspects of the game.

Both teams can do better and are likely to do so. 

The fact is the discussions on this site is BS - the discussions on the program were analytical and objective.              

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 17:51
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04 Aug 2019, 17:51#5

Well exactly if you can't see the improvement consult your optician. 


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2019, 22:09
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04 Aug 2019, 22:09#6
I'm looking, but I'm still seeing 50%....help me here chaps, what am I missing. And puleeze don't hang your hat on one lucky win in three matches against the declining former force known as the All Blacks.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 22:30
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04 Aug 2019, 22:30#7

No Mozart it is  massively better than Meyer did in RC in 2015

*   Three played - 3 lost   -   0

   

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 22:30
#8
04 Aug 2019, 22:30#8

No Mozart it is  massively better than Meyer did in RC in 2015

*   Three played - 3 lost   -   0

   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
04 Aug 2019, 22:39
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04 Aug 2019, 22:39#9
I think the Boks are now strong in South Africa, they could beat most teams or even all in SA- but Rassie plays only one more test in SA before the world cup. 
They have looked average so far in the Northern Hemisphere so far. The England game was close, but France was even closer - with the Boks winning at the death. Wales was the worst game of the year. 
Our pack is looking very good. 
The breakdown is looking good even though Marx has not been in top form. Francois Louw has been in good form. Hopefully, Vermuelen gets back into top form

Hopefully, Rassie will continue as coach at least for a while after the world cup, he needs more time. 
The midfield is the remaining problem. 
RL
Rugby LindaClub Pro114 posts
05 Aug 2019, 07:56
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05 Aug 2019, 07:56#10

Both teams can do better and are likely to do so. 

The Springboks cannot get any better.

And the AB's didn't even get out of first gear.

declining former force known as the All Blacks.

You will be shoving those words up your back -------.

Only 2 cups matter for NZ This year and I think SA will find out the hard way.

Winning the 4 nations does not mean anything in World Cup year.  


RL
Rugby LindaClub Pro114 posts
05 Aug 2019, 08:02
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05 Aug 2019, 08:02#11

Right Off NZ at your own peril.......................

FOOLS.......................................

And it confirms that you that you don't really understand what is happening at all.

Any reading of whats hapening to date has no / absolutely no relevance to what is going to happen at the world cup.

You silly idiots.

I suspect if a lady was lying there waiting for you - You would have the stupidity to try and stick your very small weener in her ear.

That pretty much sums you lot up......................


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Aug 2019, 08:11
#12
05 Aug 2019, 08:11#12

Your post sums you up nicely trans Linda. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Aug 2019, 08:24
#13
05 Aug 2019, 08:24#13

Nobody is writing off the All Blacks - least of all me.   However, to claim that the AB's did not get out of first gear is ridiculous. The 2 games last year and the one last week were all three very close affairs - so the AB's in all three games were stuck in first gear???????  

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Aug 2019, 14:39
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05 Aug 2019, 14:39#14

Yes they seem to have gearbox trouble! 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
05 Aug 2019, 14:59
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05 Aug 2019, 14:59#15

That video contains experts/legends on the game commenting on the effective defence of the Boks. 
What is happening now will have no relevance to the World Cup? B-S . Can we, therefore, assume Georgia or the USA is going to win the world cup- because the current form is irrelevant? 
This world cup will require a team to play 2-3 very difficult matches to win the world cup. There is more depth of teams than ever before - so getting a lucky draw is unlikely. 
I am not sure the Boks could put together 4 quality games - including against the All Blacks in the first round. 
The All Black forwards also have question marks if they could put together 4 strong games.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Aug 2019, 15:08
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05 Aug 2019, 15:08#16
First gear (Honda Honda) it's alright (faster faster). Second gear (little Honda Honda) I lean right (faster faster). Third gear (Honda Honda) hang on tight (faster faster). Faster it's alright. ....... The AB little Honda Honda is in serious trouble. Even though the dumb NZ fans like Linda keep yelling out that 'it's alright'. This all started at Soldiers Field 3 years ago when Ireland whipped the ABs on neutral turf. We absolutely dominated the fading ABs last year. Ireland beat them at home. A less than convincing Lions team exited the tour the stronger team. They remain top ranked but the gap is now paper thin to Wales, Ireland, England and the Boks......Oz is lost.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Aug 2019, 15:34
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05 Aug 2019, 15:34#17

Paper thin lead?   Lets get that straight:-

1   New Zealand   -   91,54

2   Wales              -   89,96

3   Ireland             -   88,69

4   SA                   -   86,30

5   England           -   86,27

6   Australia          -   81,91

So h0ow many tests did Wales, Ireland and Eland had this year allowing them to get points in the ranking system and how many did the SH teams played din tests?       

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
05 Aug 2019, 15:40
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05 Aug 2019, 15:40#18

Some where in your 36000 odd posts is a Shakespearean piece of work.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Aug 2019, 15:56
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05 Aug 2019, 15:56#19
Hahahaha poor old Muck thinks teams playing more games 'allowed them to get more points in the ranking system'. I disagree Xavi, I see Muck as a Dickensian character. Uriah Heep comes to mind.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Aug 2019, 15:57
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05 Aug 2019, 15:57#20
Muck, Peeper and Turncoat......all classical Dickensian types.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Aug 2019, 17:34
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05 Aug 2019, 17:34#21

It is extraordinary how difficult it is for some of our members that this is a rugby discussion set and not a site for personal attacks on other members.   However, from a rugby discussion concept  it is amazing to observe the slow thinking process of some of our members amd the railty to observe reality.     

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
05 Aug 2019, 17:43
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05 Aug 2019, 17:43#22
If South Africa had won, instead of drawing in New Zealand - then Wales would have gone to number 1 in the world. So it is paper some .
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
05 Aug 2019, 17:48
#23
05 Aug 2019, 17:48#23
Oue Maaik is more of a Van Gogh.  In 100 years or so, someone might get some value from his postings. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Aug 2019, 21:32
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05 Aug 2019, 21:32#24
Hahaha.....yes. We should check him for ears.
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Aug 2019, 21:41
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05 Aug 2019, 21:41#25

"It is extraordinary how difficult it is for some of our members that this is a rugby discussion set and not a site for personal attacks on other members."

" However , from a rugby discussion concept  it is amazing to observe the slow thinking process of some of our members amd the railty to observe reality."     



AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Aug 2019, 21:44
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05 Aug 2019, 21:44#26

Nice post. I'll check the video out in full when I have a moment to myself. Some good points so far. 

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