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Started by clevermike8 REPLIES139 VIEWS· 02 Mar 2014, 04:20
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CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Mar 2014, 04:20
#1
02 Mar 2014, 04:20#1

I am still not at all impressed with the Center pair of the Bulls and this time they cannot blame the Flyhalf for their performances - Potgieter had a reasonable game at flyhalf.


First of all between the two of them they managed to botch a try scoring opportunity early in the game.   At least Serfontein scored a try later on when he ran a good supporting line and got the ball when completely in the clear.


For the rest in the game they really showed zilch in attacking play - but this time around their defence was solid.   


The question arises is this what one really expect from a potential Springbok center pair?   They were really questionable in their previous two matches and I must say I am not over the moon with their performances this time around as well.   Saffex will go lyrical about how good especially Serfontein were and he would nominate him for SA 12 of the week - but that just will not wash.


Looking at the performances this week - De Allende was by some distance the best SA Center on display and he is the guy one really must watch out in future.    

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Mar 2014, 13:08
#2
02 Mar 2014, 13:08#2

 It is not the final word - but gives an indication of the work rate and performance of the players  in the Center position - but there are in fact some reasonably accurate indicators of the contribution of players in the center positions:-


*   ESPN Scrum

*   Foxsport

*   Test Rugby


ESPNscrum


I have quoted these stats vefore and am not going to repeat it again:-


Foxsport


No 13's


Johann Sadie


Round 1        =      9

Round 2        =     20

Round 3        =     22       =     51 points

Average per game            =     17 points


Paul Jordaan


Round 1        =     37

Round 2        =       9       =     46 points

Average per game            =     23 points


JJ Engelbrecht


Round 1        =     14

Round 2        =       8

Round 3        =       3       =     25 points

Average per game            =       8,6 points


Jordaan only had two games and he was effectively kept out of the game by the ball hogging of Witless Steyn  -  if that produced positive results fir Steyn - it would be understandable - but it did not,


No12's  


Damian de Allende


Round 2        =      22

Round 3        =      30       =     52  points

Average per game            =      26 points


Francois Venter


Round 1        =     22

Round 2        =     10

Round 3        =     15       =      47 points

Average per game            =      15,6 points


Jan Serfontein


Round 1        =     13

Round 2        =       7

Round 3        =     23       =      43 points

Average per game            =      13,3 points


Francois Steyn


Round 2        =       9

Round 3        =      15       =      24 points

Average per game            =      12 points


Jean de Villiers


Round 2        =     10

Round 3        =       2       =      12 points

Average per game            =        6 points


Se Villiers was extremely poor/disappointing in both games,


An average score of 20 and above is about what one should expect from an international player.   Thus far only two players average above 20 - namely Jordaan and de Allende.  


The rest are bloody far from intenational level and even poor on Super 15 level.


Test Rugby


No 13's


Johann Sadie


Total points                      =    350 points 

Average per game            =     113,3 points


Paul Jordaan


Total points                     =     340 points

Average per game            =     170 points


JJ Engelbrecht


Total points                      =     325 points

Average per game            =      108,3 points


Jordaan only had two games and he was effectively kept out of the game by the ball hogging of Witless Steyn  -  if that produced positive results fir Steyn - it would be understandable - but it did not,


No12's  


Damian de Allende


Total points                      =     620 points

pAverage per game            =    310 points


Francois Venter


Total points                     =       480 points

Average per game            =      160 points


Jan Serfontein


Total points                     =       400 points

Average per game            =      133,3 points


Francois Steyn


Total points                      =     310 points

Average per game            =      155 points


Jean de Villiers


Total points                     =       125 points

Average per game            =        62,5 points


170 to 180 points is the bare minimum to be expected from an international center.  Once again only Jordaan and De  Allende met  with that minimum requirement.  


SUMMARY


OTHER THAN DE ALLENDE AND TO A LESSER EXTENT JORDAAN (WHO WERE EFFECTIVELY SABOTAGED BY WITLRDD HOG IN HIS LAST GAME)- OUR CENTERS THUS FAR RANGE FROM POOR TO PISS POOR  IN SUPER 15.


THUS FAR OUR SPRINGBOK CAPTAIN - JEAN DE VILLIERS - WAS THE WORST PERFORMER AT CENTER OF ALL THS STARTING PLAYERS IN THE SERIES. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2014, 17:02
#3
02 Mar 2014, 17:02#3
 What were they meant to do in the pouring rain you fucking idiot?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Mar 2014, 17:43
#4
02 Mar 2014, 17:43#4
 Play rugby - not bugger things up.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2014, 17:53
#5
02 Mar 2014, 17:53#5
 What did they buggar up you fucking idiot?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Mar 2014, 18:15
#6
02 Mar 2014, 18:15#6
 one certain try and shall I quote the stats for you.   The latter clearly showed what they really produced.   No fancy words - but harsh reality.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2014, 18:21
#7
02 Mar 2014, 18:21#7
Just shows how fucking thick you are.......they were both going for the ball as they both had their eyes on the ball, so would not have seen the other.........obvious, but trust it to go straight over your stupid ignorant head.......fuck it must be a bore watching rugby knowing you are so mentally challenged..........you cant even grasp the obvious.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Mar 2014, 23:02
#8
02 Mar 2014, 23:02#8
 Fuck bit you are dim - so were the two p[layers concerned.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2014, 23:14
#9
02 Mar 2014, 23:14#9
 If I am dim you must be fucking dead
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