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The Chiefs - Bulls Game - Mitchell's comment

Started by clevermike6 REPLIES568 VIEWS· 19 Mar 2018, 03:24
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2018, 03:24
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19 Mar 2018, 03:24#1

The following from News 24:-


"Bulls coach John Mitchell praised his team in the way they took on the challenge of facing the Chiefs in Hamilton, even though they went down 41-28 after leading 28-14 at halftime.

Mitchell said the big turning point in Friday’s game came when the try of Embrose Papier was disallowed, and took the wind out of the Bulls’ sails.


“I really enjoyed our mentality and I thought we had an outstanding first half. And the second half was punctuated by the big moment on that obstruction try. When you go back to the footage Lood looked like he didn't even change his line.


“So that was a huge moment because we could have been back to 14 points ahead. And there was one area where we got a bit untidy was in the attacking 22 metres where we were impatient and got no conversion out of the three times that we were in there in the second half.


“And the yellow was from stupidity which you can't afford to do at this level. Get those things together then you can finish off a match in New Zealand because they are not easy to win.


Mitchell wouldn’t comment on the referee, other than the “double warning was ‘very kind’ to the Chiefs” but said his team would continue to play the way they have been playing under him even though the result didn’t go their way.


"Unfortunately we still got to continue to trust our skill sets but when you are with a new group that is trying to play against one of the best things in the competition you got to be patient with them as well.


“Unfortunately we had an opportunity that we could have nailed but we didn't nail. Sometimes failure gets in the road of growth so it is important that we recognise that there was actually a really good mindset and an exceptional approach.


“New Zealand is a hard place to play and when you try teach other teams who come here how to play the game and what's needed to win here, it doesn't matter how you talk about it you just have to get with the positive of winning. We'll be back again

"We fell short in the end and that's my job, it is not about John Mitchell even though I played a part at some stage in rugby here. Ultimately at the end of the day it is about my own team getting better and making sure that they continue to believe and trust their skill sets going forward."


"Ultimately at the end of the day when things are falling into place you just have to identify what's working and what we continue to do and where are the next adjustments. We still presented ourselves enough opportunity even though we didn't convert but I still maintain the obstruction try was still a big call.


Mitchell praised the team’s attack after their poor second half performance against the Reds.


"I guess the important thing is that it wasn't loose structure, there is actually an element of structure in how we play and we were really disappointed with ourselves with the looseness of our attack and inability to be connected in attack against Queensland Reds. So that's the reason why we went back to some of our priorities in the attacking structure and we had a good mindset. Clearly we would like to continue that but every team's defences are different so each week is a different situation."


There is no way the obstruction crooked whim invented by the TMO was  a farce to help the Chiefs and Mitchell is 100% right to put it bluntly the way he did.    Even the NZ commentators  said there was effectively no obstruction and the NZ supporters on site is dead quiet about that one.


He is also right about the referee being kind to the Chiefs in giving them two warnings for illegal and dangerous play when under pressure,   Something harsher would have been said in his report to Sanzaar  I am sure,  In this case there were also a serious effort on the part of our site members to sidetrack comments on the issue,   


The yellow card for the Bulls prop is dealt with fair and square by Mitchell - it had an impact on the game but Mitchell is honest about that one as well.    Our locals wanted a red - which would have meant another three minutes playing with  14 men by the Bulls. 


In the past referees who crooked games in NZ in favour of NZ teams have been sidetracked for a few weeks before returning,   Lets see what happens to the TMO and the referee this time around.             


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BrycyPro4,671 posts
19 Mar 2018, 03:34
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19 Mar 2018, 03:34#2

...not so clevermike i see the dopey Bulls prop that bravely targeted the smallest Chiefs player on the field has pleaded guilty.... and he's been given three weeks suspension... a fair punishment given his crime fell on the lower side of the dirty SA neanderthol scale...


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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
19 Mar 2018, 03:44
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19 Mar 2018, 03:44#3

Bulls lost because they played dumb rugby and were not disciplined enough. Enough with the bias Officiating Conspiracy. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2018, 03:50
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19 Mar 2018, 03:50#4

Brycy 

Good decision that one about the suspension.   

Nice effort to sidetrack the discussion on the other two points - ie the crooked "interference:" issue preventing a try by the Bulls and giving the Chiefs a 14 point turnaround.   And then there was the kind warnings to the Chiefs  followed by a dead silence on that issue,   

Come now Brycy be fair and admit the TMO was wrong in the first case and the ref in the second case.     

Careful the  neanderthal reference can come back and bite you badly.    

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
19 Mar 2018, 04:43
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19 Mar 2018, 04:43#5

...not so clevermike please supply evidence of those alledged incidents for me to analyze...otherwise it's all just hearsay...and as you know hearsay evidence is inadmissable in a court of law...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2018, 08:52
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19 Mar 2018, 08:52#6

Brycy

Read the article above - look at the TV game and listen to the NZ TV commentators to see that there were mo interference before the Papier try which was disallowed - it is not hearsay evidence - any court of law would fund the TMO guilty in that case - it was absolutely blatant crookery. 

Also look again at the breaking of the law and dangerous play in two line-outs 5 meters out when he Bulls were attacking,   The ref was kind to give the Chiefs warnings when at least two of its players were given warnings - but refrain from giving any cards for obvious dangerous play.   One warning is in any event followed by a card the second time an even more blatantly dangerous tactic is used.

Is it so hard to admit that the ref nd TMO swung the game in favour of the Chiefs by unacceptable reffing decisions in those two cases.    It is unfortunate that Sanzaar will not make their findings public - but the two culprits will be at last warned not to repeat their poor conduct,    . 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
19 Mar 2018, 08:56
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19 Mar 2018, 08:56#7
Brycy, the evidence is plain to see.....i f you watched the game. Why not just say...Mike, I didn't watch the game, so I actually have no idea what you are talking about. 
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