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The Fat,and the Ugly Rugby - Toulouse

Started by clevermike5 REPLIES400 VIEWS· 03 Nov 2013, 11:53
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2013, 11:53
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03 Nov 2013, 11:53#1

Toulouse must be dreadfully sorry about contracting some players and they are likelyn to fire their SA agent soon.

 

In watching the Toulouse - Brive game, I was struck by the presence of three Springboks in the Toulouse starting line-up - namely no 1 Gurthro Steenkamp (normally on the bench - but he did start in this match), no 2 Chilliboi Rellepele and no 9 Jano vermaak.

 

Why was their appearance so important to discuss on this honoured forum?  Obviously the answer is that the forum discuss Springbok issues as well - a topic that is second in importance after personal attacks on members - with the AB team the third topic and the Wallabies the fourth item on the agenda.  

 

Now lets get back to the game last night and keep Steenkamp for the third choice issue - since he is still in the Springbok squad.

 

Jano Vermaak was - after his scoring of the winning try against Toulon the previous week - bog ordinary this week and struggled somewhat behind a poor Toulouse forwards display.   Chilliboi must get the top prize award for the most oiff-target  line out throw ins by a hooker in the history of the game - one of which resulted in a try by Brive.  A shockingly poor display to say the least.

 

Now for the celebrated Steenkamp.   While he was on - the Toulouse scrum was a disgrace.   The scrum collapsed regularly and the result was penalty after penalty for Brive.   Outside of that Steenkamp was in possession of the ball three times.  In the first case  he lost possession forward when tackled, the second one he retained possession and so did Toulouse, the third one led to a penalty for Brive.  The first tackle he was forced to make - he missed the tackle - the second one  he missed as well.   Must have taken lessons from his teammate Jannie in that  regard.

 

Steenkamp is in the Bok Squad - one wonders  why?          

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Nov 2013, 14:19
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03 Nov 2013, 14:19#2
 
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Nov 2013, 15:37
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03 Nov 2013, 15:37#3
Vermaak is a handy little player, good buy for Toulouse and Ralepelle is a decent player. Everybody has their bad days, they just need to get settled.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2013, 17:01
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03 Nov 2013, 17:01#4

 Shezza

 

I do not think that Vermaak really was poor - but as state he was always under pressure because of deficiencies up front by the Toulouse pack.  Theere was a completel lack of understanding between Rallepele and the Toulouse jumpers - bur as you said - that can be corrected by training and I hope it does.

 

But how do you correct the scrumming issue of Steenkamp?   Incidentally the scrum penalties t urned in favour after he was replaced.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2013, 17:01
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03 Nov 2013, 17:01#5

 Shezza

 

I do not think that Vermaak really was poor - but as stated he was always under pressure because of deficiencies up front by the Toulouse pack.  There was a completel lack of understanding between Rallepele and the Toulouse jumpers - bur as you said - that can be corrected by training and I hope it does.

 

But how do you correct the scrumming issue of Steenkamp?   Incidentally the scrum penalties turned in favour of Toulouse after he was replaced.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Nov 2013, 19:36
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03 Nov 2013, 19:36#6
 Steenkamp is past it, can't teach an old dog new tricks comes to mind, he'll retire soon.
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