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The gauntlet has been thrown, who will win the Rugby Championship?; By Armand van Zyl th ROAR

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Aug 2014, 21:10
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06 Aug 2014, 21:10#1

Only two short weeks stand in the way of what will most likely be the best Rugby Championship to date, and already the stakes are high for every team involved.

The three most prominent sides of world rugby, the Australian Wallabies, the South African Springboks and the New Zealand All Blacks, are all fully capable of claiming the 2014 title and the Argentine Pumas look to impose themselves and claim that elusive first win.

The SANZAR countries usually do well in the June international window but very seldom do all three these sides boast squads of such impeccable quality and depth. And on top of this, all three countries are on form, full of belief and hungry for world domination.

But if there is one thing we’ve learnt over the past two seasons it’s that the Pumas are no pushovers. They have made huge strides in quality after being included in rugby’s toughest playground. Underestimate them at your own risk.

So without further delay, let’s delve into the odds of all four sides.

Argentina
The Pumas were included into the competition in 2012 and have not won a single game since, but they have managed a draw against the Springboks. They have also pushed the All Blacks and the Wallabies hard in recent games, especially the All Blacks in New Zealand last year.

The Pumas will look at those games and will draw belief from it. They drew with the second best team in the world in 2012 at Mendoza. Considering the fact that the Springboks remain unbeaten against all northern hemisphere teams since Heyneke Meyer’s tenure, the draw in Mendoza is quite a feat.

The Pumas are ranked lower than England, Wales, France and Ireland. These are teams who have failed to get one over the Boks and yet the Pumas managed a draw.

The fixture against the Springboks in Argentina might be their best shot at getting a win. In the past two years they have shown that they are truly capable of winning this game. The Springboks struggled in both 2012 and 2013, and the hostile Argentinian crowd seems to have a rather potent effect on the Boks.

In both these games the Pumas scored first and as history tells us the Boks don’t like that kind of early pressure. Discipline ultimately cost them and therein lies the keys to success. They should do what they did in both games and sharpen up their discipline. If they do this, based on the two previous games, the Pumas can defeat the Springboks.

What will hurt however, is the fact that they open their campaign in South Africa at Loftus. The Springboks will look to give them a little bit of their own medicine. Of all the venues in South Africa, Loftus is by far the most intimidating stadium for both the Boks and the Bulls to play at. The fans just get stuck in there and fill the team with power.

However, this doesn’t mean that the Pumas should just forget the challenge that lies in Australasia. The Kiwis haven’t been able to blow the Pumas away at home like the Springboks and Wallabies have, but what will linger on their minds is the fact that the All Blacks have annihilated them in Argentina. Whether or not the Pumas can beat the Wallabies this year remains to be seen as the Australians haven’t been truly tested. But if their Super Rugby form is anything to go by it will be a long shot.

Australia
Deserved holders of the Super Rugby trophy and a nice winning streak to go with it, the Wallabies may just be the form team in the competition this year.

In June they destroyed a horrible, ghastly Les Blues team with some wonderful running rugby. But both Ewen McKenzie and every Aussie fan will know that that series was no measurement of their strength this year.

Nevertheless, there is every reason to be optimistic about the Wallabies when you compare their current form with that of last year. Their star players are all in the form of their lives.

They will look to inspirational captain Michael Hooper to set the example, and if he does then players like Israel Folau, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Matt Toomua and Wycliff Palu will destroy all that lies before them.

The unavailability of players like Will Genia and Quade Cooper does leave a dent in their arsenal, but their replacements Nic White and Toomua are fully capable of directing the team.

The first and second Tests against the All Blacks will be a cracker. The world champions have been in cruise-mode since their coronation in 2011 and defeating them feels like mission impossible. Not even I dare to make a prediction.

After this they will face the Springboks in Perth. Again, it could swing either way depending on their true form which will be revealed against the All Blacks.

The Wallabies have had a bit of a horrid run against the Springboks, losing three games in a row by 20 to 30 points each. To top it all off Perth is a bit of a happy hunting ground for the Boks through the years.

But this Wallabies side should be much stronger than that of 2012 and 2013, and that can be the telling factor. The Wallabies need to win both Tests against the Boks and both against the Pumas with bonus points in each should they lose twice against the All Blacks.

If they play to their full potential they may very well win the title.

South Africa
The Springboks find themselves in the most precarious situation in 2014. While many like myself celebrated the spectacular 2013 season, few realised it’s implications on the current season.

What I mean by that is that while it’s always good to have a stellar season it also means that more is expected of you in the next.

The translation? The only way they can improve on last year is if they defeat the All Blacks while not losing to the Wallabies.

That is one hell of a standard to live up to. Should they lose both games against the All Blacks again and lose against the Wallabies even once their season will be regarded as a step backwards, and that is not where Meyer would want to be.

But of course there are positives as well.

They open their campaign at Fortress Loftus against the Pumas. A huge score with a bonus point like last year would set them up handsomely. And then they will travel to Argentina and, as crazy as it sounds, a win there could set them up for some silverware.

As I mentioned above, they do struggle in Argentina for reasons known and unknown. Should they get the monkey off their backs and record another good bonus point win in this game the Springboks will well and truly be in with a better chance than last year.

Perth is one of their lesser feared grounds. Their win percentage there isn’t all too shabby and depending on the Wallabies’ secret true strength they could win this game, which would do wonders for their confidence.

This will see them head to Waikato. We all know a win in New Zealand is like Haley’s Comet, it only comes once in a blue moon. They might win this game but the probability is slim to say the least.

Returning home after a week off they will face the Wallabies at DHL Newlands yet again. They will feel comfortable with this seeing as Newlands remains a battlefield few Aussies have conquered. But as the history breaking win at Suncorp showed us last year it is not impossible to lose.

The grand finale will be at Ellis Park against the titans of rugby. If the Springboks enter this game with the same state of mind as last year, and if they have improved their fitness, they might finally defeat the All Blacks.

Their squad is an improvement on the squads of past years, and Meyer has built some good depth. The absence of Fourie du Preez will haunt them but the return of numerous injured players will bolster them.

Jean de Villiers returns to lead the crusade and by his side he will have deputy Victor Matfield for advice. The Boks will once again rely on their potent loose trio, counting on South Africa’s most underrated player Duane Vermeulen as the team’s defensive captain. Bismarck du Plessis, Eben Etzebeth, Willem Alberts and Bryan Habana will have to be at their very best to carry the team to glory.

They might not be favourites but the Springboks have destiny in their own hands.

New Zealand
What else can you say about this team? The Kiwis have assembled a monsterous squad of players for their campaign and to think that players like Sonny Bill Williams, Rene Ranger and Richard Kahui aren’t even included is a scary thought.

The All Blacks remain the benchmark of world rugby. They once again stand at the cusp of rewriting the history books, and are once again the undisputed favourites for the title.

Their mission is simple. Win every single game and win them well. With the soldiers at their disposal it seems all the more probable. Richie McCaw, Daniel Carter, Kieran Read, Conrad Smith, Israel Dagg and Julian Savea are feared for good reason.

The All Blacks open their campaign against the Wallabies and will look to assert their supremacy. They know all too well that the Wallabies pose a threat to their ambitions and only a fool would think that they will take the game lightly.

On match day history counts for nothing and they know that. If the Wallabies bring it to them we might see the best game of the year.

It’s hard picturing them losing to the Pumas in the competition but stranger things have happened. The All Blacks as ever won’t underestimate them and will look to bag two good wins over them.

But their main objective this year might be to crush their rivals’ spirits one year out from the World Cup.

The greatest rivalry in rugby between the All Blacks and the Springboks will provide the necessary enlightenment as to who stands the best chance next year. If they do win both games then Meyer will have a zero per cent record against them before a World Cup year.

This would completely destroy the Springboks’ confidence and that’s exactly what the All Blacks need at this stage to defend their title.

The world will witness this titanic clash for glory in high definition detail once the teams take to the field. All the teams’ previous form will count for nothing if they don’t perform in this year’s championship.

The gauntlet is thrown. Who will bask in its magnificence?

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Aug 2014, 22:00
#2
06 Aug 2014, 22:00#2
"The grand finale will be at Ellis Park against the titans of rugby. If the Springboks enter this game with the same state of mind as last year, and if they have improved their fitness, they might finally defeat the All Blacks."
Repeat of last year ?
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Aug 2014, 23:25
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06 Aug 2014, 23:25#3
My heart says the Bokke but my head is saying the Wallabies.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Aug 2014, 23:35
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06 Aug 2014, 23:35#4
Ha, ha Roonek, but was does your brain say, lol
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Aug 2014, 23:47
#5
06 Aug 2014, 23:47#5
Just_win, you can substitute the word "head" for "brain" in my comment above.
In other words, I want the Springboks to win but I think (my brain tells me) that the Wallabies are going to win this year.
This is probably the first time in living memory I've ever tipped the Wallabies to win a RC or 3N or equivalent. I just think they've got a great side at the moment and the Waratahs in particular have been playing very good rugby. I don't think the Wallaby tight 5 is that good and I don't think they have a scrumhalf anywhere near as good as Will Genia but they look very strong everywhere else. 
I know you Kiwis consider it blasphemy to even suggest that your precious All Blacks might not win every game but I don't rate your 9/10/12 axis .  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
07 Aug 2014, 00:09
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07 Aug 2014, 00:09#6
Well, I guess anything is possible but I don't think it is  likely. Still, the RC is not easy to win & all the speculation is great. IMO the ABs first game against the wobblies will be a tough one. Hell, none of them will be easy. 
Boks start off against the Argies so the chest-beaters will be pounding away furiously after that one, lol
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Aug 2014, 00:20
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07 Aug 2014, 00:20#7
 What is certyain JW is that its going to be a cracking series. What Armand is missing is that the Boks now can fileda dangerous backline if meyer gets his selections right. So I dont anticipate trouble in Argentina particualry if Etzebeth and Loodt are hitting their straps.
The RC should be between the Boks and Oz but the wee abs might surprise so dont despair kbbs! 
Our main problem is the match fitness of players and the selection of the correct players.Of course having another debacle like Roman wont help. I dont think the kiwis dare pull another one like that this year.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
07 Aug 2014, 00:22
#8
07 Aug 2014, 00:22#8
 Was Roman playing Beeno?
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
07 Aug 2014, 02:55
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07 Aug 2014, 02:55#9
 I think the ABs v Wallabies game will set the tone for the rest of the series. If the Wallabies get smashed it will be tough for us and the ABs will be hard for the Bok to beat. If the Wallabies get up it will be game on. A Wallaby win would be great for the series and great for me but I have had too many years of heartbreak to even dream it.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
07 Aug 2014, 03:19
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07 Aug 2014, 03:19#10
agreed Claydog, it would be excellent if the Wallabies d o win to make it a great series. 
The All Blacks have been dominant for a long time, but in recent years totally dominant- probably the best ABS team/s ever. 
Dingo Deans was good against South Africa, but his teams usually fell over against the All Blacks- albeit that the ABS have been their best ever in recent years.
A win for the All Blacks in this 1st game could mean they set the record for most consecutive wins, and if they do win- maybe they will do a repeat of last year and win all of their games in the 4 nations. That could be some record for consecutive games. 
The Wallabies must win and set the record straight, then all the other games are going to be great. 


CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
07 Aug 2014, 03:30
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07 Aug 2014, 03:30#11
 Cloudy
No, I live in the NT and its a major journey to go to Sydney. It was cheaper for me to buy a 65 inch TV for the back verandah. I will be watching with the Northern Territory's  biggest Crusaders and All black fan. He was quiet last week but will be hard to hold him this time around. I don't mind him punching holes in his own walls but would prefer he doesn't do it to mine.
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
07 Aug 2014, 04:10
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07 Aug 2014, 04:10#12
 Ha
Not far at all. Spent more time in Lajamanu than I care to think about. Live in Katherine.
RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
07 Aug 2014, 10:01
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07 Aug 2014, 10:01#13

RE gauntlet - Agree aussies must win the 1st test in Sydney to make the RC worthwhile... Links a good coach and for once the kiwis are going to have a well organised, well coached, in-form wallabies team with self-belief to compete with -


ps Cloudy - let me give you the tip altho many differences weve had... don't go giving your personal info out on a open forum... not sensible...


btw the assumption you make about my whereabouts are incorrect... I may have once lived in city Australia - but their were way too many kiwis there.... lol





CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Aug 2014, 11:37
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07 Aug 2014, 11:37#14
 This is the second very objective and good article written by this guy Armand van Zyl.  The first one Mozart went ballistic, because he did question the selection of Matfield - but lets be objective  and see  -
*   where the Springboks went wrong last year against the All Blacks; and 
*   the impact squad changes will have on the performances of the Springboks this year
Last years problems
The impact of the referee's decision about the carding of Bismarck du Plessis has had a major impact on the outcome of the Eden Park test - but even without the carding there were problems that had a major impact on the final outcome and that had a major impact on the bonus point win by the All Blacks.   
There were two major deficiency - both of which resulted in tries scored by the All Blacks because of serious flaws by the Springbok team.   In both cases it relates to penalties awarded to the Springboks and we have to deal in more detail with those.
*   A penalty was awarded to the Springboks in their own 22 after thwarting an AB attack.  Morne Steyn kicked and failed to find touch with what should have been an easy means to relieve pressure.   The AB's counter-attacked and scored a try - made easy by the fact that in such cases the defensive structure is normally in disarray.
*   A penalty is awarded to the Springboks just inside the half of the Springboks and again Morne Steyn is tasked to take the kick.   He again failed to find touch and the kick was so far astray that it went over the dead ball line.   The result is a scrum just inside the Springboks half of the field.   The scrum resulted in an attack by the AB's and a try is the result.
The above two "school boy" errors by Morne Steyn had a massive impact on the outcome of the game and the bonus point win had an impact on the log later in the tournament.   If they only happened in the Eden Park test - it could have been said that Steyn had an "off day" in that test - but unfortunately it was a tendency last year and in tests where Steyn was the pivot taking the penalty kicks it happened 7 times.   So it was not an off-day incident - it was a tendency throughout the year.
In the case of the Ellis Park test the Boks had to beat the AB's with a bonus point win and prevent the AB's to get a bonus point.  This was basically the result of the games the AB's and the Springboks played against the Pumas in Argentina.  The Springboks had a poor away game and barely managed to snatch a win against them - the AB's got a bonus point win.  
Now lets get to the Ellis Park game.  I believe that the Springboks could have won that game, but for three serious deficiencies:-
*   The major one relates to poor defense by the Springboks.   Here the missed tackles that lead to tries were made Willem Aberts and Morne Steyn in the case of the try by Ben Smith and the equally poor tackle attempts by Morne Steyn and Engelbrecht in the case of the Barrett try - even though Jean de Villiers went out of the defensive line - making life very difficult for the said two defenders; and
*   The major flop of Alberts in over-turning a tackled ball when Aaron Smith was tackled three meters out.  Alberts was a meter away from the tackled ball - but instead of taking control of the tackled ball - he fell over his own feet and the ball was recovered by the AB's resulting in Messam's first try.
*   A school boy error happened seconds before half time.  The Springboks in their own 22 got the ball from a breakdown and instead of making a relieving kick that would have ended the half - Morne Steyn passed the ball to De Vlliers and he to Engelbrecht.  He got tackled and the AB's recovered the ball and the result was the second Messam's try.
The same names causing problems for the Springboks came up in both the above tests - namely Morne Steyn,  JJ Engelbrecht and Willem Alberts.  Errors by those three players made life easy for the All Blacks - they scored 3 tries as a result.   
NOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CASE OF THOSE THREE PLAYERS INASMUCH AS THE 2014 SQUAD IS CONCERNED.   MORNE STEYN AND WILLEM ALBERTS ARE STILL IN THE SQUAD AND ENGELBRECHT HAS HAD HIS LAST TEST AT ELLIS PARK.
The 2014 squad
The question to be asked is did Meyer really improved the squad selection this year and that calls for an objective assessment.   Two of the players who had a major negative impact on the AB tests last year - Morne Steyn and Willem Alberts - are still in the squad despite the fact that -
*   Morne Steyn had a poor performance year for Stade Francais - where he got relatively limited game time - since he was more often than not the bench flyhalf for his club; and
*   Willem Alberts did not have a reasonably acceptable performance for the Sharks in Super 15.
There were key players missing from the June squad as a result of injuries and Meyer made some key adjustments to overcome same:-
*   He brought in Pietersen at 13 - with mixed results - he looked good in some attacking moves - but his defense was poor.   The left a gaping hole at 13 still to be filled and one can only hope that De Allende would be the answer there this year.
*   Since Kruger failed in the Ells Park test at lock - Meyer brought in Matfield and in the absence of Etzebeth also Bakkies Botha.   He also brought on Board Lood de Jager - who had stellar matches in the two tests he got playing time in.

*   We still have Morne Steyn at flyhalf - a potential serious liability if 2013 is borne in mind
The question is how did Bakkies and Matfield perform?   Bakkies played for 15 minutes in the first Welsh test and then became invisible.   He left the field at half time and his place was taken by De Jager - who had a stellar game  - far superior to the display of Botha during the first half.
Matfield was good at line outs - but the remainder of his game was seriously questionable.  He made enough tackles - but the tackle quality was ranging from average to poor.  His ball carries in traffic were poor and he conceded a key penalty in his own 22 when carrying a ball and failing straight down in  tackles,  in one such case he hung onto the ball giving the Welsh an easy kick at goal.   When involved in rolling maul attempts  - Matfield was consistently dislodged with ease by the Welsh and ended up on the grass beside the mauls.    There is proof that Matfield gets dominated in contact and that he is physically not up to the standard one expect from a lock.  It is in fact a blessing in disguise that he is injured and will not be involved in the first test against Argentina.
How will the new squad compete this year?   That is  a major question, but signs are not positive. 
*   The 13 position remains a head ache and the forthcoming tests will indicate whether De Allende is the answer there.   Signs are positive - the Allende is a ball sense player and very good in attacking - a n excellent off-loader and creator of space for other players to exploit.
*   The problematic and seriously-deficient Morne Steyn is still in the squad.
*   The problematic lock situation has not been solved.   The answer is cclear - the lock combination to start needs to be De Jager at 5 and Etzebeth at 4 - but will that be the selection made by Meyer?   Any other selection is bound to weaken the Springbok Tight 5.
*   The speed-deficient. limited  capacity and poor Willem Alberts is still in the squad.  A much better option is easy.  Bring in Marcell Coetzee at 7 or select Juan Smith or Schalk Burger in the games against Australia and New Zealand - but will it happen?
JJ Engelbrecht is out - it is past the time to deal with Morne Steyn, Willem Alberts, Bakkies Botha and Matfield.   If they are not involved we have a good chance to beat all teams - with them in the team we are bound to lose.  That is the gist of the matter.                 
                 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Aug 2014, 16:17
#15
07 Aug 2014, 16:17#15
We will lose all 4 tests to Oz and NZ  
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