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The highly regarded Richard Branson....

Started by Denny24 REPLIES460 VIEWS· 11 Nov 2016, 23:45
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Nov 2016, 23:45
#1
11 Nov 2016, 23:45#1
echoes my thoughts on why the deplorable Tr.ump won....
"He got elected because a lot of working class people felt that he could help them, and if he's not helping them, we as business leaders must step in and help them," Branson said."
Guess what.....four years later those same blue collar workers would not have benefitted from Tr.umps ele ction promises.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
12 Nov 2016, 01:12
#2
12 Nov 2016, 01:12#2
What did the folks who voted for Trump stand to loose.....nothing.
Obama is no different to any Head of State in Africa...same policy of hands outs and blaming the white folks for everything. Racial tension in America is at an all time high with guys like Sharpdon, Holder, Jackson all stoking the racial fires and Obama adding his few cents worth as well.
If all the folks who stated that they would leave the USA if Trump was elected leave it would be the a very positive move for the USA but unfortunately those creeps could not have the same standard of life anywhere but in the USA and are all mouth and no action.
Trump will turn the country around and all population groups will reap the benefits of his leadership.
Give the guy a chance and don't be so negative and stop showing your racial bias. Remember the opportunity that was afforded to u and your family and the freedom u now enjoy in Australia was not from your or your ancestors hard work but from the efforts of the white settlers who built the country.
So calm down and try to see the positive side of life as opposed to always being a BIGOT.




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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
12 Nov 2016, 01:37
#3
12 Nov 2016, 01:37#3
 
Give the guy a chance and don't be so negative and stop showing your racial bias.
Oh I see, my so-called racial bias and bigotry is based on my support for Hilary Clinton?Pardon me but isn't she Caucasian?
Listen, best you shut the hell up as opposed to sounding like a blithering Buffoon.
And try to disguise your racial hate of a black President, it stinks!
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
12 Nov 2016, 01:38
#4
12 Nov 2016, 01:38#4
 Your hero Richard Branson does not reside in his country of birth and it is for what reason u might ask.
Many educated respectable folks voted for President Trump so don't you refer to them or him as deplorable.
Deplorable is exactly what Hillary and her husband are doing with the money in the Clinton Foundation that is meant to help needy folks around the world and not a rip off as has been exposed.
Need proof go to Haiti and see for yourself what they achieved aid wise with the Billions they collected and distributed plus contract awards to their family and friends.

Get off your high horse and stop showing your class u BIGOT from Cape Town.
Perhaps u should ponder who got that famous Clinton/ML cigar of did Obama smoke it when he moved into the Oval Office.
Sorry to burst your bubble as it was not Bush because he does not smoke.
Cheers.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
12 Nov 2016, 01:57
#5
12 Nov 2016, 01:57#5
Yes she is Caucasian but u are not and it shows in your postings.
U are a RACIST BIGOT and thankfully you are out numbered on this forum by non racist sport loving folks so once more u are in the MINORITY.
Non of the folks I know from your neck of the woods in the Cape have your HARD-ON regarding colour and sense of being bullied by white folk.
I had no issue when Obama was elected as President but I sure do now after his dismal and tragic performance in the Middle East, the sell out to Iran, the complete chaos of security, the destruction of the way of life in Europe etc.
We all know that Obama ain't black he is coloured...white mother and a black father much like many South Africans that I have as friends both here and in RSA.
I have no issues with colour but I do not and will not tolerate racial bigots such as u.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Nov 2016, 02:48
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12 Nov 2016, 02:48#6
 AJ, you've gone of the deep-end mate. 
Obama took over a country on the edge of ruin & things improved slowly over his presidency. I don't recall him apportioning blame based on race. In terms of handouts, they are called bailouts when they are given to the rich.
The Bush Presidents got the US into the mess in the middle east & things got worse but he cannot be held solely responsible. The US has had far less problems with terrorism (except for home grown terrorists) than Europe has so security hasn't been too bad. 
And some of the Tr@ump supporters have exhibited deplorable behavior. Tru@ump will start to reduce the rhetoric he used on the campaign now that he has to govern and signs are that he needs to as there are some very shocking things going on now.
Nope mate, you are on a rant for some reason.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Nov 2016, 07:35
#7
12 Nov 2016, 07:35#7
 Some of the Hillary supporters are behaving like hooligans too. People are people, some good, some bad, regardless of politics . ..to lable all T supporters as blue collar rednecks was plain stupid...that's why she lost. She p!ssed off enough people to make them vote.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Nov 2016, 08:01
#8
12 Nov 2016, 08:01#8
 Tell you one thing ... if Denise and his greased down comb-over is anti Chump then I may just have to reconsider my opinion of the man.
One thing for sure ... he's the most interesting character to take the White House. I'm rather eager to see what he does. 
Hope he's not all mouth.
Tell me Denise ... are you a mud blood?




 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2016, 08:16
#9
12 Nov 2016, 08:16#9
 Hillary called the people who support Tr ump  "deplorables" which is probably why more voters turned against her as well.
Lets face facts the standard of living of mostly the working class people has deteriorated in the USA and the UK and the Government did very little to help them.   Matter of fact is the Democratic Party in the USA and the Labour Party in the UK lost the support of the working class because of that situation - hence the hatred of many of the people for the political ad economic establishments.  
The next test for the establishment political interests would be in the presidential election in Austria and the elections in the Netherlands and France next year.   
In France the popularity rating of Hollarde is now down to 4%.   The reason for that is that the working blue collar workers have deserted the Socialists and Communist Parties and is now more in the Le Pen party.   When I spoke to a French friend of mine - his opinion was that Le Pen had a massive chance to win the election in France.
The situation has really very little to do with racism and everything to do with the fact that too many people think they are being neglected by their Governments and that applies to people of all races.    That is why a call on the DP to Latinos and African Americans vote for Clinton and was not heeded by 32% of the Latino voters and 8% of the AM voters.   
Matter of fact is that the racist propaganda mostly came from the DP in the recent election.   If Tr ump did what he vows to do - namely to help the AM population in the USA - which he claimed was grossly neglected by the DP - the next election is likely to see them stopping their support for the DP - who was using them as voting fodder and then left them in the lurch.  
In the case of SA there was a number of Local Government by-elections held on Wednesday.   I have evaluated the outcomes and the indications are that the signs are alarming for the ANC.   Although there was a normal 20% lower  turnout than in the August election the negatives for the ANC was -
*   that in the wards they won the by-elections they had 46086 votes in the August election as against 21123 votes on Wednesday;
*   in the seat in Polokwane where the EFF won the ward in August with 49% support they won the ward this time around with 54% support; and
*   in the Northern Cape the DP won a seat in the one Municipality with 50% of support in August - on Wednesday they won the ward with 70.2% support.
In all the above cases the ANC support collapsed by at least 30% - so one has to wonder what is going to happen next.                  
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Nov 2016, 08:28
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12 Nov 2016, 08:28#10
 Well Mike, there certainly seems to be a wind of change blowing across the planet. 
People are no longer throwing their support behind the ruling parties. They're tired of the same old horsesh!t. 
Interesting times lie ahead. 

 
 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2016, 08:52
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12 Nov 2016, 08:52#11
 Dense denise don't ever complain about me posting political items on the rugby section you total hypocrite.
The people who live in the country by a vast majority thought the country is going in the wrong direction:"Nearly 80 percent of Americans say they are not hopeful about the current state and direction of the United States, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll. That is up 15 points from when the same poll measured Americans’ feeling about US affairs last year".
Branson is part of these globalist elites who are running things for their own benefit.Dense denise you are a weak minded globalist dupe. Wake up!!!!!!
Despite an unprecedented smear campaign and lies (as well as vote rigging) Trump has won - Bill Clinton congratulated Trump on an amazing campaign. Possibly the most incredible win in history. The man is outstanding and will stop the ship from sinking.I will post an apology from the New York Times regarding their biased reporting re T*rump on Beeno's Trum*pet. The MoD here should also stop this biased and ridiculous messing with Tru*ps name. Egg landed there as well;.I see that Le Pen chances of winning France have improved from 1 in 6 to one in 2.The People in Europe are rising up against the globalist traitors. Yes traitors. Merkel is finished as well. Hollande's populari ty at about 14%
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2016, 09:03
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12 Nov 2016, 09:03#12
 JW your take on matters is appalling. Have you any idea of the extent of their corruption or their selling out of America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your ignorance is staggering. You are a very nice person but you really need to get to grips with matters. That said Bush was a globalist sell out like the Clintons. Thankfully Trum*p has defeated these two rotten dynasties.
Please note the silence about these rioters from Hillary and Obummer despite all the fine talk about a pea ceful transfer of power.I wish Tru*mp all the very best in his battle to drain the swamp. For too long the best interest of America have been sold out gto foreign lobbyists.
Bernie Sanders also ran against these globalist forces. Bernie never had the guts to see it through and looks to have been intimidated. He never even said a word about Donna Brazile leaking debate questions to crooked Hillary who accepted the help with glee!!!     Trum*p did have the courage to face down all the globalists. What a MAN.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2016, 09:06
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12 Nov 2016, 09:06#13
 These business tycoons like Branson and company have had decades to help the working class but instead have manipulated the system to suit themselves. All the data coming out of the states show the deteriorating situation regarding the people.
In 8 years obummer doubled the nation debt. He is a bungling moron. Good riddance!!!!!!!!!!!
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,262 posts
12 Nov 2016, 11:58
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12 Nov 2016, 11:58#14
I dont like richard Branson. He is a PR gimmick . It seems that most of his companies make a loss- with only one or two that make most of the profit. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
12 Nov 2016, 12:27
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12 Nov 2016, 12:27#15
 It's not a matter of liking or disliking Branson. It's a matter of Tr.ump falling over on his promises, the one in particular that suckered blue collar workers into voting for him. Sure we'd all like to see a better and fairer deal for the working class. I'm working class.
The hat on his head will change when he becomes president and with it we'll see the dissipation of his campaign promises. That is my point.... as well as Branson's point. $10 Billion to build a wall?
Already he's changed his promise about scrapping Obamacare....and hey Presto he's yet to occupy the oval office!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2016, 13:19
#16
12 Nov 2016, 13:19#16
Denny
I think there will be major changes made by Tr ump - but that some ideas will remain.  He cannot just walk away from the working class and there are other players in the game as well - eg Senators like Rubio and Cruz - who will not allow him to do an about-turn insofar as the working class is concerned.
There will be crucial issues that need to be addressed if the Republican Party is to survive.  
By the way - the same negative views was expressed by the media when Reagen became President - yet he was the best US president in the 20th century.  
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2016, 13:36
#17
12 Nov 2016, 13:36#17
 Dense Denise is quite a comic when it comes to politics - in addition of course to rugby and about anything else. Hahahahahahahahaha
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
12 Nov 2016, 13:37
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12 Nov 2016, 13:37#18
 Mike
I'm all for change but it's a different world to the time of RR. The dead cities need to be revived....it's never going to happen. The glory days of GM and Ford and a bubbling manufacturing industry has been superseded by robotics. It is cheaper to import. We suffer the same problems in Oz. How on earth is Tr.ump going to turn it around so the working class man can benefit? Politicians cannot be trusted and they'll say anything to get a vote. I believe the Democrats shot themselves in the foot by running with Hilary instead of Bernie Sanders but I still believe Hilary is the better choice of two evils.The scurrilous things Tru.mp has said during the campaign has divided their nation and no matter what he says from here-on in he will never gain their respect.
His buddying up to Putrid is a major concern.
He's delusional if he thinks that all he has to do is cut trade deals to lead the nation.
I have deep fears for the USA.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Nov 2016, 13:39
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12 Nov 2016, 13:39#19
 "In the end I believe that my generation will surprise every one.  We already know that both political parties play both sides from the middle and we'll elect a true outsider when we fully mature.  I would not be surprised if it is not a business tycoon who cannot be bought and does what's right for the people.  Someone like Donald Trump as crazy as that sounds.  - Curt Cobain 1993. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2016, 13:44
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12 Nov 2016, 13:44#20
 Ou maaaikie neither Cruz nor Rubio have a fraction of the courage or brain power of Trump. They would never be able to take on the Globalists. Hopefully they will fall in line and follow Trum*ps lead.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2016, 14:16
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12 Nov 2016, 14:16#21
 Beeno
You misunderstood what I wrote.  I said that Tr ump cannot betray the trust the voters put in him by becoming a dunce of the establishment.   And Cruz and Rubio knows what is happening and will Take Tr ump to pieces if he surrenders to the liberals.  
The two Senators will support Tr ump if he follows up on his promises - otherwise they will not follow him.    
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
13 Nov 2016, 02:01
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13 Nov 2016, 02:01#22
 JW turn on your TV and check how the T.rump voters are demonstrating and rioting in the NY, Portland, LA.The media was quick to say that if he lost the election there would be riots etc by his supporters.
Now heads up fella........ these are all Hillary`s voters doing their thing.
We have many family members in Europe and they are all shocked at what has taken place in their countries with the influx of middle eastern people. Safety has been overrun by these folks and women are scared to walk in the streets.
These people have no respect for anything other than their own.
Yep everything that has and could go wrong during Obama`s time in office was President Bush`s fault.
Like the Red line drawn in the case of Syria....Like withdrawing the troops from Iraq and not heeding advise from military commanders.Like the Iran nuclear deal.Like his dealing with the death of thugs by blaming the police without knowing all the facts.Like his phone and pen action going around Congress with executive orders.Like the Affordable Care Act which is not affordable to most.Like his recommendations of the most qualified person to ever run for the top job.Like the weekly death toll in his home town which at present stands at over 3,000 deaths since he took office.

Yep all Bush`s doing.....
But his legacy as President is in tatters all because of Bush and T.rump.
In closing this must have been the words that Bill passed onto Hillary after her defeat at the polls.
Now Hillary do not fear, remember Nelson only became President after he served 27 years in jail so heads up girl your turn will come.
Never to be.....thankfully.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2016, 03:47
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13 Nov 2016, 03:47#23
 T.rump is a line manager who is used to tackling problems and making decisions. Hillary is a staff person who is used to being a critic. She would do nothing ....he may  do something. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Nov 2016, 04:37
#24
13 Nov 2016, 04:37#24
 Somehow I get the impression there aren't too many liberals on this forum
We better hope Tr@ump can do something constructive the world is stuck with him now.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2016, 06:11
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13 Nov 2016, 06:11#25
 JW
I am fairly liberal in outlook - but I am also a realist.   Liberal Governments in recent decades did a horrible on the people they govern.   They became an elite that did not do what they said they would do when elected.   In many countries the working class people realized that and is turning against the governments whom they blame for their problems.

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