The Hype never ends

Dud Toit gets MVP for South Africa in the RC. Now, while his flaws in running the ball and his non presence in contesting the ball on the ground haven’t changed, I do think he is probably playing his best rugby. His positional sense is excellent and his lineout play has improved. And he was visible in the tight exchanges, notably getting Marx over the line in the Twickenham test. So while I have always felt he would be better at lock, it’s not clear there are any better options at blindside right now.

But then one reads this:

’But he didn't stop there; the following week at Twickenham, Du Toit was a defensive juggernaut with 11 tackles and plowed through the opposition with eight carries, solidifying the Boks' historic back-to-back Rugby Championship titles.’

So here are the facts. He made 11 tackles as did Nortje, Etzebeth made 9, Marx 10 and Wiese 12. But he also missed 2. A pretty normal performance for a blindsider. Kremer by the way made 17 tackles and Rubiolo 14 without missing any.

Then on the ploughing through the opposition….yes he made 8 carries…..but for 5 metres gain, no breaks, no defenders beaten….no offloads. About as toothless a running performance as you’ll ever see….Kremer made 28 metres.

The rubbish that is written which forms fan opinion is almost comical, it certainly isn’t serious sports journalism.

The lunacy never stops ever, Mozart - nothing will stop you from spouting BS on site, You suffer from DDS and needs to get psychological help from a shrink urgently.

Your support of 7's like A lbergts were endless - but the useless FATSO never in his whole rigby career was ever a force at breakdown play and ever made a single turn over in all the years he played superrugby and in tests, The best bacl;ine player when ot comes to breakdown ball turnovers - he riotinely made as many turnovers as Marx made - but h e si not credited as a player who made such turnovers - but dementia sufferers like you does not want to see it nd never gave him credit for that.

S o wha does te technique entails. Rge tackled player must fall vortually a meter from the player who tries to make a turnpver and players often get penalized tying to attmpt such turnovers. Attemtps are as oftn penalized s they are. Look why Vernmeulle male so many turnovers successful - it raely happen in thecase of tall players - but shorter players like Vermeulen and Marx is more capatble in making sccessful turnovers, Du Toit has had some minor successes per year in that - players like Mostert and Matfield never even attempted it.

So what is really going on here? It is just another imaginary issue that is now is in his besotted mind a means to attack players he hates.

Uncle are you sure you got the right sickness?? DDS = Dialysis disequilibrium syndrome.

Who it affects: Children are typically diagnosed with this syndrome before the age of three.

And it can’t be treated by a shrink….:)

True to form - our resident anti Bok doing his best work

Fucking scum - too fucking stupid to acknowledge one of the best blindsides to ever play the game

It very rarely happens in the case of tall players says the painfully dumb Saaiman, no doubt aping what the equally stupid Porker spews out. But of course this is balls:

Confirmed Test jackals/turnovers (chronological)

1. England 25–21 Wales — Six Nations, Mar 12, 2016 (Twickenham)
2. • “Textbook turnover… near the English line” (official Six Nations video). YouTube
3. • 63?: live report notes “Itoje makes another turnover.” Telegraph
4. South Africa 23–12 England — 2nd Test, Jun 16, 2018 (Bloemfontein)
5. Report records Itoje (with Brad Shields) “effect[ing] one relieving turnover.” The Guardian
6. England 19–7 New Zealand — RWC semi-final, Oct 26, 2019 (Yokohama)
7. Player analysis: Itoje “won… three turnovers” in a man-of-the-match display. The Guardian
8. England 18–7 Ireland — Autumn Nations Cup, Nov 21, 2020 (Twickenham)
9. Match report notes “Itoje won a vital turnover under his own posts just after the hour mark.”sixnationsrugby.com
10. South Africa 17–22 British & Irish Lions — 1st Test, Jul 24, 2021 (Cape Town)
11. • First half: praised for a goal-line turnover (Planet Rugby). Planet Rugby
12. • 80?: Guardian live text — Itoje “hits and rips the ball to win a turnover” to end the game. The Guardian
13. England 23–19 Wales — Six Nations, Feb 26, 2022 (Twickenham)
14. Match report: England’s early points followed “a good jackal from Itoje.” The Guardian
15. England 26–25 France — Six Nations, Feb 8, 2025 (Twickenham)
16. 51?: live blog — “Itoje wins a penalty as he clamps on the ball at the ruck” (holding-on).

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Up your game Saaiman and if you want to copy somebody avoid posters with fat on the brain

DuToit never got the ball much in the last test, so he did not have a great game, but he was exceptional in some of the other Championship matches. He scored tries and helped create others.

Overall, he is a very consistent player, but when he is at his best, he is world-class.

But in the Bargie test he certainly didn’t plow through the defense, nor was his own defense exceptional. It’s a bit like the quota system, if there isn’t honesty it’s hard to accept reports of excellence. Personally I think he is a bit of a mixed bag….one good game in the WC final along with poor games against Ireland and particularly France.

Mozart is the idiot who cannot understand that rugby entails game plans and need for coaches and beliees teams take decisions themselves on stategies to be changed depending on playing conditions, In the case of the starter of this thread hatred never ended, He came up with shit on a player that over the past six years was rated twice as the best rugby player in world rugby. Who made that decision - 8 rugby captains of top rugby teams in the world and claims he is the best performance snalyst in the world while he in fact being an idiot when it comes to rugby, .

Oh okay, in his 8 runs for 5 meters, he plowed through the defense, deftly avoiding the need to beat any defenders. I have to admit, that’s special.

Mozart

Your derangement syndrme started lwaays with the surname of everyyou hve hated for decades. Your latest dementria suffering pronosis deals with the turnover of breakdowns is the most important thing in evaluation of rugby player performances.

So lets look at real situations as to his latest almighty performer - Maro Itoje -in reality:-

1. Played in 1051 tests for either England (93) and 9 tests for the BRI Lions. and made a turnover in 101 tests made 16 turnovers in matches . What the idiot does not take into asccount at even the best SA player at present Marx - on average gave away as many panelties as he makes successful turnovers, That means such turnovers has very little impact on actual match outcomes. In the 101 tests played Itoje he made in every 16 tests he made in or rarely more turnovers in te 16 tests where he made trnovers, .
2. In the 101 tests played Itoje played in he played as a lock in the majority of tests played, but in the past two years he was used as a blindside flank and he scored 8 tries in all tests comapred to te 15 tries scored by Du Toit in the same number of tests - who in most tests he played in played as blindside fact and rarely as a lock;
3. How many line-out turnovers made by Itoje made compaed to the turnovers made by Du Toit made. No real assessment has been made - but it is known that Itoje in recent matches moved to the blindisde flank position in effort to strengthen the line-outs in the tests he played in.

Breakdown turnovers rarely lead to scoring of tries and preventing of scories such tries by oppostion teams. so in broader terms it is an advntage for teams but to over-rate it as a result changer as such is rank idiocy, What is in the latter regard more importat in line out turnovers from 5 meter out where Du Toit has made more than any other present player - especially in line-outs within the 22 meter line and especcially in line-outs 5 meters out where Du Toit has blunted the attacks of teams quote often - defnitely more often than Itoje did.

Amother factor is that Itoje never was picked by experts as the Player of the Year - Du Toit did as such in boh 209 and 2024

Mozart suffers fom Derangement Syndrome and it si easy to change from time to time - it is common when it comes to coching where.it also when it hapepns as Erasmus Derangement Syndrme (EDS and n the case of players he ahte it routinely applied to playes accrding to their surnames that can range from DDS to ZDS.

Taking into account all factors related to rugby Mozart hates Easmus and certain players and needs urgent needds to treat derangement syndromes of a major nature that has extremely dangerous result levels of idiocy and lunacy in respect of rugby,

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Another kreef thread.

The height of rugby ignorance or is it plain stupidity?

Not rating arguably the best coach ever and arguably one of the best blindsides ever

It does not get lower than that

Another ‘kreef’ thread? Hahahaha….nope with Saaiman and Porker rooiaas is the bait of preference. It’s so enjoyable popping the hype balloon….he certainly didn’t plow through the opposition if he made 5 metres in 8 runs…..wait hold on, he be the best blindside ever.. ….so explain exactly what he did….he made ten bazillion tackles in the WC final….but Mostert made more tackles per minute he played and never missed one….well that doesn’t count he is too scrawny.

ROFL!

Yes it's k@k funny, just for you:

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Are You crying Draad?

Once after my dad passed...not since.

By the way I noticed as usual you disappeared on the Bargie rating thread. But I need to thank you for trying to help the bombastic bully, it made me go to the source data which proved my point even more decisively.

Sorry posted before I read your response….that’s a dark day in all our lives.

Chill...I brought it up...and although I was serious, it was a joke if that makes sense.

It’s one thing pretending to be baiting when we know full well the angler is consumed by his despise of the player

The angler is consumed with his despise of the player. Are you just inferring that? Note the correct use of inferring and the incorrect use of a verb, despise.

You can’t have passed Matric Porky

This from the cunt that has been exposed so many times by Rooi regarding incorrect spelling or grammar - fuck off you loser

I should have said ‘despising’

You’re right, you should have said despising ….pity you didn’t know that before you embarrassed yourself.

Mozart

Can you give us a break and refrain from starting another thread or threads on Erasmus, Du Toit and De Allende for a month please. I am getting sick seeing repetative BS spreading on site.

Fuck off you pathetic old twat you have on many occasions been exposed by Rooi for spelling and grammatical errors

You hypocritical waste of space

Lets see - has Rooi exposed you when it come to spelling - yes or no?

Rooi you mean the little man who thought the timestamp of a post changed when you edited it….and thought the explorers like Columbus were protected from disease by Vaccines…..waaaahahaha

"The height of rugby ignorance or is it plain stupidity?

Not rating arguably the best coach ever and arguably one of the best blindsides ever "

One thing about dumb people, they love themselves a bandwagon.

It's the one thing that offers them a bit of intellectual security. And you better believe they'll hang onto it until their last breath.

Did you sell lots of ice creams at the club this weekend, Dawie?

Moffie, Rooi kicked your pathetic sorry arse into touch when he exposed your spelling and grammatical errors - you fucking pathetic hypocrite

Now answer the question you fucking coward - did Rooi expose your spelling errors old man? Yes or no coward?

I go away for a few days and come back to this.....

Lol, nothing changes around these here parts

No he never exposed my grammar… he caught a few typo’s. As I caught a few of his. But his grammar and language were fine if somewhat basic, it’s his understanding of history that was hilarious. And his abysmal lack of quantitative skills. Longing for Timestamp Dave, can’t fight your battles on your own?

Moffie you really are a pathetic liar - I’m not fighting a battle relating to grammar or spelling you pathetic old man as I don’t give a shit

Im just pointing out your stinking hypocrisy as you are too fucking stupid and I mean this sincerely, to realise that the last thing you need to be doing is pointing fingers at someone regarding their spelling or grammar when Rooi has chewed and spat you out on numerous occasions on the subject

Fuck me and now you are lying about it - typo my fucking arse you sad fucking hypocrite

LIAR

Eish David...... just....... Eish

DumbAss yawn just yawn

Provide one example….I’m providing examples of Rooi’s stupidity, imagining edits are time stamped and explorers were vaccinated in the 17th century. Provide one example of that moron correcting my grammar.

Moffie I know for a fact you have been exposed numerous times on here by Rooi

You hypocritical twat

Ill do a search on here and see if I can find some examples - there are endless examples

I have never been exposed by Timestamp…if you disagree, find just one example.

LIAR

How the fuck do you search on here:)

Du Toit is a media darling; nothing more, nothing less. Year after year, he drifts through the season with all the fanfare of a conquering hero and the impact of a gentle breeze. He belongs to that sacred inner circle of "mythical" Springboks whose reputations run on nostalgia and highlight reels rather than substance.

On the field, his supposed dominance rarely materialises. His defensive reads are reactive, his carrying lacks intent, and his ruck involvements are more ceremonial than influential. An astute tactician, armed with half an hour of video footage, would spot the gaps instantly and build a game plan around exploiting them.

The accolades he’s been showered with - World Rugby Player of the Year, endless pundit praise - are built on sentiment, not scrutiny. None of it was ever earned in the cold, technical sense. It’s a tragedy, really... not for him, but for the sport. Because every time mediocrity is mythologised, rugby drifts further from the honest standard it once demanded.

Fuck off prick