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The idiotic axing of Willie Le Roux

Started by Beeno113 REPLIES288 VIEWS· 24 Nov 2016, 22:34
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Nov 2016, 22:34
#1
24 Nov 2016, 22:34#1
Alistair you are FIRED!
Ex Sport 24

Cape Town – The Springboks scored two tries in their 20-18 upset at the hands of Italy last weekend … you might be entitled to call that a crime in itself.

Yet it is also a far from irrelevant fact that Willie le Roux had a critical hand in the creation of each of them in the first half in Florence, and he so nearly put Bryan Habana in for another with a cleverly-judged long, floated pass in the fateful second.

In many respects, the former Sharks fullback – bound for English Premiership outfit Wasps in January – seemed back to his best as an increasingly rare provider of unpredictable genius in the Bok backline.

Le Roux has seldom been perfect, and he did commit certain gremlins in the national team’s first ever reverse to the Italians.

But he was also considerably better than he had been in the more thumping 37-21 loss to England at Twickenham a week earlier and, for the record, earned “premier” Bok individual rating on another grim day for the collective cause on the Sport24 performance card against Italy with a 6/10 assessment.

Now, though, he is a goner … out of the match-day 23 entirely for the last shot at some kind of tour redemption against Wales in Cardiff on Saturday (19:30 SA time).


Head coach Allister Coetzee was urged by several prominent critics to shake the bag in favour of rookie-geared, often youthful energy for this season-ender to the annus horribilis, and in many respects he cannot be blamed for obliging in his team pick on Thursday.

There are as many as seven alterations to the starting XV, and it will be educative and potentially exciting to see, particularly, just how new caps Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Jamba Ulengo and Uzair Cassiem come through on such a go-for-broke occasion.

But the Boks now field an unusually callow backline, something that looks especially conspicuous given that Bryan Habana, with his massive 124 caps, is among the casualties.

On that score, it makes even less sense for the 27-year-old Le Roux (41 caps), who would have helped keep a semblance of experience to the back three, to have been deemed surplus to requirements against the Welsh.

Yes, it is admirable that -- as trumpeted in the official press release accompanying the side -- 14 of the starters will be players based with domestic Super Rugby franchises next year.

But that still doesn’t mean that Le Roux’s omission looks that bit more justifiable, given that the soon UK-based customer is replaced by another “foreign” Bok in versatile Johan Goosen of Racing Metro.

Nor is it as though Goosen is a simply irresistible pick at No 15; his favourite responsibility is still flyhalf and he wasn’t wonderfully comfortable in the last line of defence in four starts there during the Rugby Championship – Le Roux is at least a more specialist fullback who was just showing signs of a return to revered, slippery standards of old in Florence.

When you apply the guillotine to one of the ever-dwindling handful of “X-factor” players in the Bok mix, after he has demonstrated those attributes in sublime little bursts the previous Saturday, what sort of message are you sending in a climate where the Boks are being lambasted for falling behind other top-tier  nations for invention and generally progressive rugby?

I guess it is a question best directed to Coetzee …

NOPE THIS DOPE HAS NO CLUE WHATSOEVER. YOU ARE FIRED!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Nov 2016, 05:31
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25 Nov 2016, 05:31#2
 Beemo
Any player scoring tries and assisting in scoring of tries is on the Coetzee chopping block,   It is a deadly sin to do that in the Coetzee idiocy.
The idiot is clueless when it comes to backline play and is showing that every time he picks a team.  
So lets look at the latest idiocy.   95% of the SA players applying their trade in Europe and Japan are Whites - so cut them out of selection - it eases the transformation programme Coetzee has to apply by his political masters.   So use the foreign contract issue to eliminate as many possible foreign-based White players.
Goosen is a player with ball sense and dangerous in backline play - but he plays virtually all the time at 10 or 13 - he is rarely used by his club at 15.    That has been the situation over more than a year now.   So the idiocy last week was clear - instead of having both players on the field of play last week - our village idiot coach substitute  Le Roux with Goosen.
Does the idiot has any bra ins - I can justifiably ask?         
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Nov 2016, 07:46
#3
26 Nov 2016, 07:46#3
 Willie isn't consistent enough to be a test 15. 
He burns hot and cold. Some days he's brilliant and other days he's damn awful.
No loss in my opinion.
Besides ... he's a better wing. 




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Nov 2016, 08:22
#4
26 Nov 2016, 08:22#4
 And your solution is Combrink at 15....a man so inept and slow he was caught from behind with the ball and then generously dropped it towards his own goal line for a Pom try. That's not inconsistent?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2016, 09:33
#5
26 Nov 2016, 09:33#5
 Mozart
You apparently favour slow players and have no problem with that.   The list of slow and useless players touted includes Fat Fransie, JP Pietersen  and Sloth Alberts, but a lot of others can be added as well.  
Combrinck is to my mind a wing - he has consistently done better than Pietersen who is as slow as a carthorse at present.   At least over a 50 meter race he will beat the above three by at least 10 meters,  
Once you come up with your slow theory - with no real proof at all - you make a mess of player assessment as per normal.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Nov 2016, 15:51
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26 Nov 2016, 15:51#6
To compare Combrink with JP is a joke. Cart horse with Race horse. JP may have lost 3 steps in the 100, but he still has more Impact than Combrink has at his peak.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Nov 2016, 16:26
#7
26 Nov 2016, 16:26#7
 Combrink has made a few errors of late, but he is streets ahead of the spent force that is JP.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Nov 2016, 16:59
#8
26 Nov 2016, 16:59#8
Maybe....but he will have to do something to convince me. Last week the waters opened and he ran through a barnyard gap. There was one last tackler, he had 10 metres to move either side and got put down unceremoniously. Flaccid stuff.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2016, 17:21
#9
26 Nov 2016, 17:21#9
 That is about as flat as Mozart's constant blaming certain players are concerned - another incident where he found reason to blame Combrinck after his previous accusation was flattened - ie the fact that Habana made an atrocious pass to Combrinck which he knocked on.   The fault that time was Habana - but Mozart blamed Combrinck.  Standard stuff from a person who is totally clueless about rugby.   
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2016, 17:21
#10
26 Nov 2016, 17:21#10
 That is about as flat as Mozart's constant blaming certain players are concerned - another incident where he found reason to blame Combrinck after his previous accusation was flattened - ie the fact that Habana made an atrocious pass to Combrinck which he knocked on.   The fault that time was Habana - but Mozart blamed Combrinck.  Standard stuff from a person who is totally clueless about rugby.   
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Nov 2016, 18:34
#11
26 Nov 2016, 18:34#11
 There is no "maybe" about it.
Like most of your favourites, he's a spent force and because of it ...  a liability ... to every side he plays for.
Luckily Combrinck doesn't have to prove himself to you. What do you know about rugby ... other than counter rucking?
LOL!!!




 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Nov 2016, 19:08
#12
26 Nov 2016, 19:08#12
 Wee cc please wake up!!! You  can be a first class dope.Willie is the best attacking back we have!!!!!!!!!!Mike I agree that Goosen is a not a 15 but a good flyhalf
Combrinck showed in the Super 18 he has plenty of pace and scored some fine tries.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Nov 2016, 19:13
#13
26 Nov 2016, 19:13#13
Okay Combrink is fast and Goosen is a great flyhalf....hahaha.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Nov 2016, 19:28
#14
26 Nov 2016, 19:28#14
 A huge times better a flyhalf than Fat Fransie.  hahaha  
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