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The Japs do it again

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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:21
#1
28 Sept 2019, 11:21#1
Brilliant performance by the hosts After the commanding display against Scotland, the Irish did the classic under estimation of the opponent
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:27
#2
28 Sept 2019, 11:27#2
So, has Joe Schmidt now also become a kak coach?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:35
#3
28 Sept 2019, 11:35#3

Look at the captain of Japan as a major reason for the Irish loss.   No - the Irish captain said they  did not under-estimate the Japan team - but they may have.   

This was indeed an upset bigger than the one in 2015.  In 2015 Japan played a team of Meyer duds and won - this time with the exception of Sexton the Irish picked their first-line players.

By the way is the NH teams really as good as they are claimed to be by some of our site members?   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:37
#4
28 Sept 2019, 11:37#4
Fantastic. Will be interesting to see how all the Northern Hemisphere teams fare in these conditions. More refs from the Northern Hemisphere in an RWC ever, giving them some advantage, but faster pitches is another ball game...
Irish looked slow and sluggish as if it was a winter mud bath they are used to. 
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:38
#5
28 Sept 2019, 11:38#5

Aw, and I missed it.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:46
#6
28 Sept 2019, 11:46#6
Fantastic, congrats to the Japanese. This is good for the game. Ireland will have to play there best players more to get to the knockout rounds.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:46
#7
28 Sept 2019, 11:46#7
Fantastic, congrats to the Japanese. This is good for the game. Ireland will have to play there best players more to get to the knockout rounds.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:46
#8
28 Sept 2019, 11:46#8
Fantastic, congrats to the Japanese. This is good for the game. Ireland will have to play there best players more to get to the knockout rounds.
BL
BlackboyClub Pro702 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:58
#9
28 Sept 2019, 11:58#9
Fark me............that was epic.........no shit calls so take a bow Gardner............. Bloody good game JAPAN......
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
28 Sept 2019, 11:58
#10
28 Sept 2019, 11:58#10

Have you been reading Mike's book "How to p-p- post on forums", JW?

ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
28 Sept 2019, 12:04
#11
28 Sept 2019, 12:04#11

Fair play to Japan. Deserved winners. Makes the group very interesting. Japan have control of the group and must fancy themselves against Scotland and making the quarter final.

Obviously as an Irishman I'm disappointed but its a great result for world rugby on the whole. I don't think Ireland played awful, but we went into our shells in the second half, but today Japan were si mply the better team.

Irelands progression to the last 8 is still in their hands. Two bonus point wins against Russia and Samoa and Scotland can't catch them regardless of there results. We can still top the group if Scotland do us a favour and beat Japan but at the moment looks like a quarter final date with the All Blacks and another quarter final exit.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Sept 2019, 12:19
#12
28 Sept 2019, 12:19#12

Hope the Irish team have more heart than Stav should they meet the wee abs!

Congrats to the composite international "Jap" side. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 12:49
#13
28 Sept 2019, 12:49#13

Beeno

They have top class players neglected by their home unions.   Labuschagne is one of the best loosies in the world and proved it again today - but idiotic Meyer prefer duds like Alberts and silk at loosie.    Coetzee was worse than Meyer - bu t not by much.  


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
28 Sept 2019, 12:52
#14
28 Sept 2019, 12:52#14
“ By the way is the NH teams really as good as they are claimed to be by some of our site members? “ Could have been a legitimate question had at least one of the two teams been from the SH.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
28 Sept 2019, 13:19
#15
28 Sept 2019, 13:19#15

Welcome to the club Ireland.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 13:25
#16
28 Sept 2019, 13:25#16

Ceradyne 

SA beat the same Japan team 41-7 a few weeks ago - hence my question.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
28 Sept 2019, 13:59
#17
28 Sept 2019, 13:59#17
“Posted by: clevermike (37898 posts) Sep 28, 2019, 13:25 Ceradyne SA beat the same Japan team 41-7 a few weeks ago - hence my question. “ But Ireland, with many of the same players, beat NZ about ten months ago.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 14:38
#18
28 Sept 2019, 14:38#18

There is a huge difference between 10 months and 3 weeks.   And that is a fact,  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 14:38
#19
28 Sept 2019, 14:38#19

There is a huge difference between 10 months and 3 weeks.   And that is a fact,  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 14:38
#20
28 Sept 2019, 14:38#20

There is a huge difference between 10 months and 3 weeks.   And that is a fact,  

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Sept 2019, 14:45
#21
28 Sept 2019, 14:45#21

I see the Irish coach complained about the ref. Mallet said the coach had to say it. 

The IRB put out a statement saying the reffi g so far has not been up to standard thus far.

Seems Beeno once again 100 % vindicated

BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
28 Sept 2019, 15:03
#22
28 Sept 2019, 15:03#22

Congrats to Japan.. very happy for them and their supporters ??

There is a big difference between a friendly dead rubber warm up game and a targeted RWC pool game and that is a fact.

On today's performances the Bo ks would have had to dig deep to come out on top!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 15:20
#23
28 Sept 2019, 15:20#23

BB

No - the fact is that the Springboks should never have lost against Japan in 2015 and I do think the Japan team this year is better than what they used to be when they were in 2015.  If the warm up game result was not so wide I would have to an extent agree with you.

However, it shows again - Erasmus was clever to play a pre-WC warmup game in Japan - the NH teams have struggled there to play their normal mud-assisted game .   England was sub-standard in their first game - Scotland was poor against Ireland and today Ireland was not good enough against Japan.

Looks to me that they have problems playing in any country other than in the UK, France and Ireland.         

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2019, 15:43
#24
28 Sept 2019, 15:43#24
Wasn’t CJ Stander starting in this game Moz?
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Sept 2019, 16:08
#25
28 Sept 2019, 16:08#25

The "Japanese" team is far better than the one that beat the Boks.

They played with great fire and regardless of the ref looked the better side. 

Can they keep it up. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
28 Sept 2019, 16:09
#26
28 Sept 2019, 16:09#26
A fact is not a fact, and that is a fact.... duplicate
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 17:28
#27
28 Sept 2019, 17:28#27

I think the Scotland game is the key game for Japan to win - they will beat Canada easily.   If they beat Scotland they would end up on top of Pool A with Ireland in the second position;

SA will have to beat Italy and Canada, but they will have to be careful in the Italy game and use the best team to make sure of victory,  The Canada game should not be a problem. 

If the Japanese beat both their remaining opponents they will be top of  Pool A and Ireland second.   That will mean SA will have to  play Japan and New Zealand will play  Ireland in the quarterfinals.

To be frank I hope that would happen.

Watch the Aussies beating Wales tomorrow. England still have to play France and Argentina and their wheels could also come off,        

 

   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
28 Sept 2019, 17:45
#28
28 Sept 2019, 17:45#28
The Irish were exposed for lack of pace in the fast conditions of Japan. However, sometimes a team just does not pitch up. Maybe they will improve... 
The Irish could do well in Northern Hemisphere slow pitches, but they do not appear to be contenders at this world cup in Japan, despite being number 1 in the world. 


Wales has more skill and pace in their backline and should be more of a threat in the world cup conditions.England has the pack to get quick ball, with some powerful backline players that can break tackles. 
The only real contenders for the World Cup at this stage are:
1. All Blacks2. England3. South Africa4. Wales

I don't think Australia has the tight five to win against the best teams.
RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
28 Sept 2019, 19:35
#29
28 Sept 2019, 19:35#29

Aussies beat any team on their day... just depends what that day is... 

Credit to Japanese...

Tell me does this now setup quarter likely ireland v nz?

If so nice work saffas throwing the first pool game 

Irish will be so hungry after that...

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 20:07
#30
28 Sept 2019, 20:07#30

Redsman

It can only happen if the Japs wins the remaining two pool games - Scotland and Samoa  If that happens the Irish will play the AB's  in the quarterfinals.   South Africa will only be in the quarterfinals if they beat Italy and Canada in their two remaining matches too..      

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Sept 2019, 21:29
#31
28 Sept 2019, 21:29#31

Scotland and Samoa Oom Mike, Canada is in our pool.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Sept 2019, 21:34
#32
28 Sept 2019, 21:34#32
But admit it Draad, there is a huge difference between 10 months and 3 weeks.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 21:38
#33
28 Sept 2019, 21:38#33

The slide into oblivion in performance due to age does make a huge difference in performance. over a ten month period, LMAO.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 21:38
#34
28 Sept 2019, 21:38#34

Dup

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Sept 2019, 22:16
#35
28 Sept 2019, 22:16#35
Which is why 38 year old Gatlin just ran second in the 100metres at the World Champs.....the egg flows.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 Sept 2019, 02:28
#36
29 Sept 2019, 02:28#36

After watching Ireland vs Scotland I swear Ireland would win the WC and be worthy champions....the opposite is now true.

And oh BTW, that chappie Tony Brown, Japanese assistant coach, ja the one I'd like to see as the Bok coach, well he franked my call with the Japs win. Of no surprise but funny all the same, our resident World Authority, the know- all on everything including rugby, we won't mention a name, not surprisingly dissed my choice with someone even "better"

Too funny.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2019, 03:42
#37
29 Sept 2019, 03:42#37

Strzok

We are talking about rugby nit-wit, 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Sept 2019, 09:24
#38
29 Sept 2019, 09:24#38
Posted by: mozart (29259 posts)

Sep 28, 2019, 21:34

But admit it Draad, there is a huge difference between 10 months and 3 weeks....


Indeed

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Sept 2019, 09:37
#39
29 Sept 2019, 09:37#39
Well done Japan BTW...very exciting match.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2019, 23:20
#40
29 Sept 2019, 23:20#40
So Denise are you saying it’s down to Brown that the Japs won not Joseph the head coach - you fucking idiot But more to the point - no one would pick Tony Brown over Scott as a coach but I’m guessing that’s beyond your comprehension. Get this into your stupid head - I rate Tony as a coach but rate Scott even more, therefore would prefer Scott to Tony as Bok coach - get it fuckwit???
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