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The Lessons Learned from Juandre Kruger

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2013, 12:21
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03 Nov 2013, 12:21#1

Looking at the English atrocious handling of kick in ball yesterday - one gains the impression that they took lessons from the leading expert in the relevant field - Juandre Kruger.

 

Now why do I say that?   When writing about the deficiencies of Kruger in line outs and his lack of grunt - the venerable Mozart wrote a long piece about how important Kruger is in -

 

* calling throw ins at line outs; and

* receiving the ball on kick ins and in organising the defence in those cases.

 

Nobody could conceivably take over those functions.   Aside from that on occasion Mozart wrote that since Alberts is so slow as a loosie - Kruger - been a quicker player - assists Alberts in defence wider out.

 

In the Ellis Park and other tests this year he put up an atrocious performance in all the tests he played in - Mozart became quiet on Kruger's clear deficiencies - but slip in quietly a suggestion that Kruger be attained in the Springbok squad in a veiled attempt to keep Du Toit out of contention.   Since Kruger is not in the touring squad - Mozart has now turned to Botha as the next weapon to be used against the selection of Du Toit..  We will have to see what Meyer does next - so one can only hope that Meyer does not make another mistake this time around.

 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Nov 2013, 18:38
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03 Nov 2013, 18:38#2
 I heard somewhere that Meyer thinks of Etzebeth and PSDT as 5 locks, I hope this isn't the case.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Nov 2013, 19:37
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03 Nov 2013, 19:37#3
@Shezza, if the two of them are indeed the future, then surely one of them has to be a no5, unless you have found a way to configure a scrum with two no 4 locks.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Nov 2013, 19:41
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03 Nov 2013, 19:41#4
 What are you on about? What I said was that I heard somewhere that Meyer is going to play the best out of the two at 5, but as I implied it's just a rumour. 
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Nov 2013, 19:41
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03 Nov 2013, 19:41#5
 What are you on about? What I said was that I heard somewhere that Meyer is going to play the best out of the two at 5, but as I implied it's just a rumour. 
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Nov 2013, 19:41
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03 Nov 2013, 19:41#6
 What are you on about? What I said was that I heard somewhere that Meyer is going to play the best out of the two at 5, but as I implied it's just a rumour. 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Nov 2013, 20:06
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03 Nov 2013, 20:06#7
 What are you on about? Surely, if they are our future lock  pairing, then one has to be  no 4 and one has to be no 5. Not so?
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Nov 2013, 20:11
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03 Nov 2013, 20:11#8
 Well what I heard was that he was going to put one at 5 and bench the other, due to the fact that we don't have many decent 5's and we needed a good substitute as well that could play both positions to a good standard.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Nov 2013, 20:14
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03 Nov 2013, 20:14#9
 Maybe it would be best to ignore rumours and see what happens. That is the best way to decide which one should be the 5, in any case, IMO.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2013, 20:17
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03 Nov 2013, 20:17#10

Ceradyne

 

You previously stated that the return of Mattfield is a pipe dream by a journalist.   However, in a follow up discussion - when Meyer was asked about the Mattfield issue - it was clear that he himself is dreaming about and hoping for a Mattfield return.  

 

So it is not as clear as all that - Meyer loves the Blue Bulls antiques and I bet you he is dreaming about Botha at  4 and Mattfield at 5 - which for a future perspective is obviously rubbish.    

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Nov 2013, 20:22
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03 Nov 2013, 20:22#11
 


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Ceradyne

 

You previously stated that the return of Mattfield is a pipe dream by a journalist.   However, in a follow up discussion - when Meyer was asked about the Mattfield issue - it was clear that he himself is dreaming about and hoping for a Mattfield return.  

 

So it is not as clear as all that - Meyer loves the Blue Bulls antiques and I bet you he is dreaming about Botha at  4 and Mattfield at 5 - which for a future perspective is obviously rubbish.   



Really? And you say that because Meyer has said what exactly? Quote?
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Nov 2013, 20:53
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03 Nov 2013, 20:53#13
This was the reporter's own attention seeking intro to the article:
"Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer was as guarded as always, but he did not rule out the possibility of recalling another World Cup winner."

These were Heyneke Meyer's words as quoted in the article:
"You should speak to the player and his union about him coming back - it is not in my hands,"

"I've always believed that we need quality No.5 locks in this country,"  (Is he the only one who believe that? Anybody who disagree with that would be  a complete idiot, IMO.)

"If you are good enough and old enough, you can play. He [Matfield] has always been a quality player and he has also been fit."

"I've also heard the rumours and it will be interesting to see if he is going to play."

Their is nothing suggesting that Meyer approached Matfield and asked him to start getting himself in shape for an imminent call-up to the Bok squad.
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Nov 2013, 21:00
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03 Nov 2013, 21:00#14
 Yeah, you are right. it's journo trying to create a story from nothing.
 These stories then take on a life of their own as each journalist quotes the other journalist. Cyber-space makes this type non-story get more attention than it should.
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