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The Mighty Wee Stompies (Jaguares)

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 10:18
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16 Mar 2019, 10:18#1

The Stormers are all about their pack. If they aren't punching it up through the forwards, they aren't really doing anything constructive with the ball. By contrast, the Jags were very dangerous ball in hand, and with quick ruck speed, they effortlessly worked the ball into space, creating opportunities. The Stompie midfield was outclassed. In the first half, Damian's best contribution was to run in a circle, confused, before miraculously finding Lleyds running a hard line into space. Too much reliance on kicking, and errors by the Jags, to find opportunities. The Stormer's ruck speed was too lethargic and predictable: Carry, tackle, ruck, pause. Rinse and repeat. Where were the angles of running? Where were the long passes? A few forward passes that weren't called; I'm seeing this more often the past five weeks. The Stompie pack took the sting out of the Jag attack in the latter portion of the first half, hitting them hard and shutting down space. Made the game more even. One can't help but feel that the Lions would have repeated their try fest. The replacement loosehead, Fourie, buckled almost everytime. The pop-gun boot of the halfback struggling to get the team out of their half for the first twenty minutes of the second half. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Mar 2019, 10:21
#2
16 Mar 2019, 10:21#2

Silly Bil ly 

Reading your misconstrued rubbish I suppose the Jaguares won the match.    

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 10:25
#3
16 Mar 2019, 10:25#3

Tis nothing but the truth Lügnerin. Your arch nemesis. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Mar 2019, 11:07
#4
16 Mar 2019, 11:07#4

It is not the truth at all - it gives your normal misrepresentations as factual and does not even remotely cover the whole game and what happened.   That is why I asked the question about the Jaguiares winning the game?  ]

You are nobody's nememsis - you are a freak who write BS on site and then thinks he is a nemesis of people who points it out.   What a conceited and lying idiot we have here!!!  LMAO  

   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 11:10
#5
16 Mar 2019, 11:10#5

Reading 101: 

"Tis nothing but the truth Lügnerin. Your arch nemesis." 

What is it? The truth. What is the truth? Your arch nemesis. Really Lügnerin, have you truly learned nothing from the past week? You disappoint me so. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Mar 2019, 11:20
#6
16 Mar 2019, 11:20#6

Silly Billy

Lets face facts - the Stormers won the match by a wide margin - any analysis of worth would refer to aspects you never mentioned for example - 

*   the driving mauls initiated by Du Toit and Schickerling - bit then you do not realize what driving mauls are;

*   the major advantage attached to the defense in which players like Du Toit, Schickerling and De Allende played a major role; and 

*   putting pressure on the opposing players by at least some of the players you always malign. 

When you write a factual report and not spent half of your post in an attack on De Allende it may just  be worth reading,   As it is you obviously insist on remaining an utter fool on site, 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 11:30
#7
16 Mar 2019, 11:30#7

Damian fluffed most of his tackles. He had two solid hits, one in extra time of the first half, and one out wide late in the second. What did he do on attack? One run in circles which confused everyone as much as himself and one kick into the Jag 22 from the touchline. 

The mauls? I already said this was all about the forwards Mike. Do pay attention. 

You lost your way in this ill-conceived counter offensive. Dr Auge be also General Auge.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Mar 2019, 12:03
#8
16 Mar 2019, 12:03#8

When analyzing games  properly one has to look at all aspects objectively and arrive at a conclusion more or less in line with the eventual outcomes of games.   You did none of those requirements  and then wants to be taken seriously.  


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
16 Mar 2019, 12:46
#9
16 Mar 2019, 12:46#9

When analyzing games  properly one has to look at all aspects objectively and arrive at a conclusion more or less in line with the eventual outcomes of games.

Huh?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Mar 2019, 13:19
#10
16 Mar 2019, 13:19#10

The Organhuffer methinks is a bit too critical? This was a big win after all.

Gavin Rich says

DHL Stormers captain Siya Kolisi stood tall and led by example as the Cape team built further momentum with an impressive 35-8 bonus point win over the Jaguares in a bruising Vodacom Super Rugby clash at Newlands on Friday night.

Kolisi was a trifle concerned about his own form even though he was pleased with his team’s win over the Cell C Sharks in Durban two weeks ago but after this game he had double reason to feel immensely satisfied. Not only is the team plan coming together after this emphatic win over a quality team that had come to Cape Town in a determined mood, he also turned in a quality personal performance and was the driving force for his team’s win.

The Stormers will probably feel they made heavy weather of grabbing the try scoring bonus point given how dominant they were in the last quarter of the game. But when replacement scrumhalf Justin Philips crossed for the fourth try with less than two minutes left it clinched the point that enables the Stormers to draw level on the South African Conference log after both teams have played four matches.

The Bulls are officially the log leaders because of their superior points difference but both teams have 13 log points and for the Stormers the humiliating opening defeat at Loftus is now starting to feel a long time ago.

It was the perfect way for the Stormers to sound off the initial home leg ahead of a tough four match tour of Australasia that starts with the departure on Sunday. They will feel a lot more confident now, particularly as this was the second successive game where their pack dominated and they outmuscled their opponents with a highly physical defensive effort.

Make no mistake, it wasn’t a perfect display. There were too many turn-overs, particularly when they were deep on attack. Had they been more precise and clinical they could easily have scored another two or three tries against opponents who threatened on occasion but were bossed in the collisions.

This was a game where both the Stormers attack and defence coaches should have felt satisfied with their night at the office, though they will probably also both feel there is still plenty to work on. It was a defensive error that saw the Stormers fall behind by five points after just four minutes, with the Jaguares showing sublime running and passing skills as they profited from the first of the many turn-overs they were to effect on the night. The Stormers had been inside their half when the ball was turned over and it was a great example of the Jaguares’ ability to feed off scraps and make the most of their opportunities.

It was not to remain that way for the Jaguares though, and there was a period early in the second half when they were over the Stormers line three times but just couldn’t score. That was when the Stormers defence really held together and effectively won the match for their team. Not that it was the only period where the Stormers defence impressed, the pressure they created throughout the game played a big part in the win. If you consider that the Jaguares scored their try so early, the Stormers effectively scored 35 points to just three in the last 75 minutes of the game.

Their supporters wouldn’t have foreseen that in the early parts of the game. Even though the Stormers were dominating the territory battle, and made it count with an SP Marais penalty that drew the score back to a two point deficit, the Jaguares were creating their own pressure and forcing the Stormers into errors.

The first Stormers try was a trifle fortuitous. Off an attacking scrum, flyhalf Jean-Luc du Plessis elected to put in a little kick over the top of the defenders that looked like the wrong decision when two Jaguares players converged to catch it. Unfortunately for the Jaguares the players didn’t just converge, they collided, and it led to the ball rolling loose. Du Plessis’ cousin Dan, who turned in a strong performance defensively, was through to score.

The five point advantage was cut to two by a Jaguares penalty, and the Stormers would have been kicking themselves for surrendering two lineouts against the throw when deep on the attack. It was a night when the Stormers were turned over often on attack, and that is something they will need to work on if they want to win in New Zealand. However, at the same time the Stormers scrum was becoming more dominant, and you could sense the confidence of the home players growing as a result.

A penalty in an easily kickable position in the 34th minute made it 13-8 and then on the stroke of halftime Marais kicked one from the halfway line to give his team a crucial eight point advantage (16-8) at the break. That three pointer would have been a psychological boost for the Stormers and a blow for the Jaguares.

Even more of a blow for the Jaguares was the mess they made of their scoring opportunities early in the second half. For a long time it seemed they could do everything but score. By contrast the Stormers made full use of their first opportunity of the half, with Kolisi going over after breaking off a driving maul following a patient build-up in the 48th minute.

That made it a 15 point gap, and the Jaguares had to score next if they wanted to win a game that they had clearly targeted. They came close, mighty close, and were at one stage awarded a try but then denied once referee Jaco Peyper had consulted the TMO.

The Jaguares did make mistakes that worked against them but you also have to give credit to the Stormers for some outlandishly good defensive work near their line. They won the scrums that counted, and sure enough a big effort in which replacement Corne Fourie featured prominently earned the penalty that relieved the pressure.

Not long after that scrumhalf Herschel Jantjies, who is growing in assurance with each game, wriggled into space off another strong Stormers lineout drive to score his second try of the season. Jean-Luc du Plessis kicked the conversion that made it 30-8 after an hour and that was effectively that as far as the Jaguares were concerned. They spent the rest fo the match defending. The Stormers bench made a dramatic impact, and as long as all the players remain fit that could be a significant strength for the home team going forward.

Talking of players remaining fit, Eben Etzebeth left the field halfway through to undergo a concussion test and didn’t return. Cobus Wiese was excellent as his replacement in an area where the Stormers do boast strength in depth but coach Robbie Fleck will be hoping that Etzebeth won’t be sidelined for long. He is an important member of the team.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 14:28
#11
16 Mar 2019, 14:28#11

The Stormers have the potential to be the strongest SA side, but they have a lot of problems on attack. Very opportunistic more than constructive. This Jags side was there for the taking, and I mean for a massive route, but they could quite capitalise like the Lions would have. The backs simply put weren't very good. Against a better team, this wouldn't have been as rosey, especially one which can match them up front.

So conclude, the forwards largely played well. I thought Kolisi was very consistent in both halves. The forwards won this game. The attack was mostly disjointed and clueless. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Mar 2019, 14:45
#12
16 Mar 2019, 14:45#12

Beeno

The problem is that Silly Billy does not understand rugby and only has some pet hate players that he writes about  - never really accurate at all.

    

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Mar 2019, 15:34
#13
16 Mar 2019, 15:34#13
Bullshit de Allende had another good game. Kolisi was huge as he always is as were PSDT, Kitshoff, Etzebeth and JD Jantjies was good at 9, Willemse needs to start at 10
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 16:43
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16 Mar 2019, 16:43#14

Damian was a non-factor throughout the game. Kolisi had an unusually good game, but this was against a errrant side with poor set pieces and defence. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Mar 2019, 17:12
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16 Mar 2019, 17:12#15
Bullshit de Allende was very influential and Kolisi is always good. Was one of our best forwards last year You are too fucking stupid to work out a good from a bad player. You rate Morne Steyn - case closed - say no more
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 17:39
#16
16 Mar 2019, 17:39#16

Kolisi was one of the worst players last year. An absolutely ineffective Bok, if he didn't make the odd big run he was the invisible man. 

Damian was exceedingly poor. Fluffed most of his tackles, was like a headless chicken. Hopeless. 

Case closed? Far from it. You are wandering into a danger zone. The egg zone. Don't say I didn't warn you. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Mar 2019, 17:43
#17
16 Mar 2019, 17:43#17
Fuck me you really are stupid. Kolisi was our best forward with ball in hand - what you want from your 6. Also very physical in the tackle. The impression he made today is no different to what he does in test matches but you are too fucking stupid to notice. de Allende was our best centre today - yet again
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 17:49
#18
16 Mar 2019, 17:49#18

Kolisi was physical in space against backs. A couple of breaks at the seam off lineouts/mauls. He was mostly invisible. He wasn't just a poor forward, he was a poor leader. He was nowhere. Rassie must agree, because he paired Kolisi wide with Kriel often. He wasn't working with the forwards laying a platform. His work at the breakdown was exceedingly poor. 

Damian? Laughable. He was nowhere near the best centre. Moroni and Ezcurra totally outclassed Damian and du Plessis. Damian being the worst of the two. What contributions did make? Two good tackles. A chip into the Jag 22 late in the second half. Nothing came off anything. One fortuitous run by Lleyds off a headless chicken dance by Damian. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Mar 2019, 18:09
#19
16 Mar 2019, 18:09#19

Yes put Willemse at fly half. 

Pack is fine as you say Orhanhuffer but backs need lots of attention by a class coach. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Mar 2019, 18:42
#20
16 Mar 2019, 18:42#20

I cannot understand why Silly Billy keeps on arguing  about a game he does not understand at all.  He is always making an utter fool of himself.  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Mar 2019, 18:47
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16 Mar 2019, 18:47#21

Your desperation cannot overt reality Mikey. You are straining desperately. The death throes of a weak little lamb in the jaws of a lion. 

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