The moment that changed the World Cup

The guy writing the report apparently never  realized Lomp can‘t usually lift  his shoulder to parallel.....or put one foot in front of the other for that matter. Providence fixed Erasmus’ disastrous selection mistake. Lucky Rassie they say!

Dave

If you look at the particular attack after the final scrum in the first half and the subsequent very dangerous attack followed Mostert spilled the ball and the attack died   The English was in disarray and that spilling lost a possible try being scored,   If that was Du Toit Mozart would be writing about it until 2023.   

No missed tackles and crucial tackles on Vunipola a few metres out....a lion in the goal line stand. Mostert....zero missed tackles....zero spilled balls (the first column). 

What a Bok!

The lineout king.....playing off the bench!

LINEOUT STEALS – PLAYER

1 Guido Pagadizabal (Argentina) – 5

2 Izack Rodda (Australia) – 5  

3 Shannon Frizell (New Zealand) – 4

4 Franco Mostert (South Africa) – 3

5 James Ryan (Ireland) – 3

Mozart

Let go back a bit in the case of the line-outs.  In the AB tests in the RC he was desperately poor in the line outs and it was clear he was not usable as a lineout jumper,  He was then not used for lineout jumping at all in the subsequent Argentina test and was not even used to call the line-outs.   In the Argie test he would normally stand in the front with Etzebeth in the middle or further back with Etzebeth in the front of the line-out and Du Toit in the middle of the lineouts,   A few times in lineouts Du Toit went to the front of the line-outs where Etzebeth normally jumped.     .       

Mostert was so weak in the line-outs that he was  not used in the AB WC test at all - but he also failed in defense and that was the reason while for the rest of the series he was not in the starting line-up in the crucial games.    Picking up line out steaks against Namibia and Canada was a joke and to brag about that was even more of a joke.

One thing is for sure - Mostert's career as a test player was over at the end of the WC,  He will not be in a test squad again for SA unless there is a long list of injuries,     

‘He was so weak in the lineouts that he was not used in the AB WC test at all’...which begs the question, if he wasn’t used a nd that was the first WC game, how did they know he was so weak?

Of course that’s a total fiction, but you even bungle your  lies.

As for the bit about ‘picking up steaks against Namibia‘ I can sympathize with that. Nothing like a good Namibian steak and some sweet potato fries.

Because he was weak in the RC games he played in in 2019.   That is factual and no lies,  Mostert was on borrowed time in the WC game against the AB's and after showing further especially defense deficiencies he was tickets,      

Because he was weak in the RC games he played in in 2019.   That is factual and no lies,  Mostert was on borrowed time in the WC game against the AB's and after showing further especially defense deficiencies he was tickets,      

Saffex,

I'm surprised that you give a guy with his heart and record so little credit.

The onus is on you guys to explain how the Lions pack lead by Whitely and Mostert dominated ALL other SA and Kiwi packs for a few years.

If Mostert, and Whitley, whom I tie in with him as the criticism of them is identical, were so bad, it means that the other two loosies and the lock were carrying them. Basically, Tecklenburg, Ferreira and Jaco Kriel must be far and away the best in their positions in the world. 

We know that is not the case, so how did they do it?

TEAM...The Lions had a special  team. Somehow the team was greater than the sum of the individual parts...what makes team sport great.

Somehow Mostert took something special to the Boks too.. .Whitely not quite...unfortunately never really got going due to injury.

Saffex, for me he adds smothering value. 

The guys that hit large never do so with frequency. Even the biggest hitters will do so only a few times per game.

It stands to reason that a forward who hardly misses any tackles and makes more hits than is normal, despite not smashing people backwards, adds great smothering value. He helps to set up situations where the defensive unit pushes the opposition backward. 

Also, I don't know how lazy he is. Remember, muscle mass = fatigue. Looking at how he seems to want to play, i'd guess that doesn't want to add too much muscle to his frame as it'll just cost gas and his value is as an 80 minute player. I'll stress, that this is a guess.

That's my laymans assessment anyway.

Here’s the ‘power’ running of Lomp and Dud in the playoffs:

Japan......Lomp 5 runs/ 4 metres.....Dud 6 runs/5metres.

Wales......Lomp 5 runs/5 metres.....Dud 3 runs/5 metres

England ..Lomp 1run/0 metres.....Dud 4 runs/2 metres

Playoff total....Lomp 11runs/9 metres....Dud 13 runs/12 metres.

Those are the most outstanding, stunningly effective 24 metres ever gained by two highly Physical locks.....imposing themselves time and again and breaching the game line with impunity. Hell without those 24 metres in 3 games we would never have won the WC.

Of course there is the small detail that Dud spilled the ball twice worth 40 metres to the opponent......and that a just competent  runner would expect to gain 48 metres in the 24 runs.

So with 88 metres foregone and 21 metres made one might feel a little short changed by these...er....physical players.

Mozart

I referred to one ball Mostert spilled and clarified the issue of the weakness in line outs of Mostert and ow this myth.   

Now back to Matfield,   Matfield was a good player until his retirement in 2011,   After his return he was totally useless and weak  in all aspects of play -  definitely so in scrumming and driving mauls,           

No myth.....hard facts....the myth is that Lomp and Dud bust tackles . They don’t.

Fair point Shezza.... I’m reacting to the power runner comment. They are similar players. I think Stephanie is the better runner, but still not an effective runner....neither should be our go to ball carrier.

Mostert has better hands, offloads very well when he is allowed to.....which he wasn’t in the Rassie game plan.

Defensively Stephanie is more aggressive, Mostert more accurate as we saw in the Welsh and Pom goal line stands. 

Mostert is the better lineout jumper and Lineout captain.

My first objection is the reverse of your’s....why does Dud get so much more credit. Is he the best rugby player in the world....really?

My second point is Dud’s shortcomings aren’t noted, but they are there. If Louw wasn’t subbed for Kolisi to make that crucial Welsh match steal we could have lost. Dud doesn’t offload and he doesn’t turnover ball. Those are two substantial deficiencies...more or less shunning the modern game.

We haven’t reinvented the wheel with either Dud or Mostert at flank. It’s a trade off and can be made to work in a balanced loosie trio. But having Dud and Kolisi was risky.

Never saw those missed tackles...nor apparently did ESPN. AND Savea was playing blindside.....Cane was the 7.

Savea vs Ireland:

All these guys regularly beat tackles, make multiple metres and offload.  They play a constructive attacking game....not a dead head charge into the first tackler and fall down version.

13/4>0.5

Case closed.

So when we read the following then one wonders about the sanity of the member who posted it:-

"Mostert has better hands, offloads very well when he is allowed to.....which he wasn’t in the Rassie game plan."

Mozart knows zero about game plans.   For years he was advocating that a kicking fyhalf and a crashballing 12 was traditional SA rugby,   He did not rate scoring of tries was a positive requirement in rugby,   Now suddenly Erasmus's game plan did not allow Mostert to off-load balls, but a similar restriction was not placed on other players.  LMAO - this is crazy,    

I did and it was total BS,