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The nutcases on this site wants Pollard out 0 but

Started by clevermike14 REPLIES221 VIEWS· 18 Aug 2014, 19:22
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Aug 2014, 19:22
#1
18 Aug 2014, 19:22#1

The following report indicates an objective assessment of he situation and suggest otherwise:-


"Cape Town – Dropping Handre Pollard now would be a knee-jerk response by the Springboks, following their laboured 13-6 Castle Rugby Championship victory over Argentina in the Loftus slush.

Calculating, conscientious coach Heyneke Meyer, to his credit, generally steers clear of acting in that fashion: he was refreshingly brave in preferring him to the experienced Morne Steyn for the Pretoria match, and should not depart from his clearly longer-term, World Cup 2015-aimed vision at this juncture as the Boks brace themselves for the swift return against the Pumas in Salta on Saturday (21:40 SA time).

A vote of confidence would be a far better way to make the 20-year-old feel secure, feel part of the furniture, than to ditch him after two games --- one very promising (Scotland) and one slightly ropey (the Argentina first-round encounter).

On Saturday, the rookie was caught as off-guard as anyone in the South African squad and management by the rare, unanticipated August deluge.

Useful lessons can be banked, all-round, and the Boks move on ... without any major need, I suggest, to shake the selection bag.

Pollard either dropped, fumbled or slice-kicked the cake of soap otherwise labelled a rugby ball a couple of times during the Loftus tempest; so did many more seasoned characters in the home ranks as a Pumas XV not under-stocked with Euro-based personnel took massive heart from the levelling environment suddenly before them.

And yes, when the now 57-cap Steyn was sensibly enough introduced to the necessary dogfight on 46 minutes, he brought superior composure and general game-management under the circumstances (we gave him 6.5 out of 10 on the Sport24 performance card to Pollard’s 5.5, so don’t be too quick to call us Pollard-obsessed).

But it does happen – all the time, actually – that substitutes bring timely, often better value than the players they replace, and it doesn’t automatically mean you swap spots in the pecking order a few days onward as a result.

That can cause unnecessary instability, and self-doubt.

Pollard warrants another crack as top dog in the flyhalf channel, not least because the Boks, while suitably wary of putting the cart before the horse, are likely to take to the grass at Salta especially keen to strike for a four-try bonus point if it looks feasible, after plans to bag it were thwarted at Loftus.

They had to cobble together a not especially convincing, eleventh-hour Plan B in Pretoria; a likely return to more adventure-minded Plan A would suit Pollard’s known strengths.

Here’s something else to chew on: with Argentina chuffed by their securing of a losing bonus point in South Africa and likely to have plenty of fire in their bellies for the revenge quest on more familiar terrain, they will throw their bodies at the task with special, perhaps often frenzied glee.

Flyhalf is a channel where, more than many others, stout defence can be required when the heat is on, and Pollard has the bodily strength and tackling conviction to repel raiders there better than Steyn probably can.

No, the Boks should give another chance to their Pretoria template at No 10, with Pollard starting and the experienced Steyn a comforting bench presence, capable of good game time if things are going to stay tight and a wise, more conservative old brain is required to make the difference in a ding-dong scenario.

Personally, I still fancy South Africa are capable of putting game two against the Pumas to bed with some degree of ease, and primarily because of the superiority of their attacking play. And that’s where Pollard would be tasked with coming well into his own.

 Meyer picked the Paarl Gym product as his starter at pivot for well-intended reasons last weekend. He should do so again, in anticipation that those reasons will kick in ... or rather be allowed to kick in as meteorological lightning, as it were, doesn’t strike twice.

Psst, the long-range forecast for Salta on Saturday is quite stubbornly fine, whilst Wikipedia trumpets that the city in the foothills of the Andes is “famous for having very pleasant weather”.

Loftus was a minor hiccup in his development, but it’s still Pollard for me." 


To replace Pollard with the bumbling Morne Steyn will be suicidal.  

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Aug 2014, 20:53
#2
18 Aug 2014, 20:53#2
 Have to agree Mike. Pollard made three mistakes early on but his line kicking , goal kicking and tackling were fine. He got through a gap but knocked the ball of soap on.It would be folly to drop him as that weather made it extremely difficult for him to perform.What i liked immensely was his compsure after making a mistake. No head hanging down just an air of calmness and even cheerfulness. The guy has BMT - take it from Beeno.
A great player in the making is my call. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Aug 2014, 20:54
#3
18 Aug 2014, 20:54#3
 ou cerudunce windpomp had beter catalogue this post for future reference in case it doesn' t work out. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Aug 2014, 21:47
#4
18 Aug 2014, 21:47#4
You  have to love the pure rubbish some of these morons write....Meyer picked Pollard for "well intended reasons". Honestly could some of these chaps solve a simple linear equation. Thick as bricks and guys like the equally dumb OOm  take all this pablum seriously. 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Aug 2014, 21:47
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18 Aug 2014, 21:47#5
 No problem, ou Beenbal, and just for record purposes, I would request our "wise-owl" to  give us a link to and a quote where I suggested that Pollard be left out. Just for the sake of having the full picture, you know. Unless, of course, I am not one of "the nutcases" ..........
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Aug 2014, 22:09
#6
18 Aug 2014, 22:09#6
 If you got it right re Polla rd windpomp it was an abberation!!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Aug 2014, 22:10
#7
18 Aug 2014, 22:10#7
 Mozart
So when an article in paper is in favour of those players you like the scribe is brilliant - when not the writer is denigrated in your normal style.  One wonders who is the idiot here - Mozart or the scribes who specialize in rugby reports for their newspapers?
There is nobody more moronic than Mozart and his cote rie who support Morne  Steyn and even the pathetic Francois Steyn for  Springbok selection.   
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
18 Aug 2014, 22:27
#8
18 Aug 2014, 22:27#8
I think Meyer was spot on when he subbed Pollard. Pollard was struggling, perhaps even nervous, so why let the guy lose his confidence completely. Meyer protected Pollard from such an embarrassment, knowing there will be another opportunity to broaden his experience and show his skills.  
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Aug 2014, 22:37
#9
18 Aug 2014, 22:37#9
 Well said Blikkies. As I have said before. HM is not going to throw Pollard for the wolves. He "guarded" him for years. Hopefully ou Maaikie has remembered what I have said about this remark and will not try to pull it apart ............... again.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Aug 2014, 22:49
#10
18 Aug 2014, 22:49#10
Just another promising 10 thrown in the deep end. 
Maybe it might have been alright if the weather was as predicted but what is wrong with a plan to have him come on in the second half. It would have been the more prudent choice. As it turned out the weather was crap, Meyer had the choice of starting Steyn and thus demoting Pollard or throwing Pollard to the wolves & hoping he could handle really bad conditions. Another promising 10 mis-handled. Probably he will be ok but it doesn't make the decision any better.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2014, 00:19
#11
19 Aug 2014, 00:19#11
Pollard turned the ball over 5 times in 45 minutes. The next highest were Folau and Sanchez who turned the ball over 3 times in 80 minutes. Effectively 3 times the turnover rate of any other player in the RC. The weather was bad, but inexperience played a role. HM has a job to do, and should be thinking about winning the RC, not running practice sessions for the WC. It's a close call, but I hope fans will cut him some slack if he goes with Morne.  
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
19 Aug 2014, 03:20
#12
19 Aug 2014, 03:20#12
 Hasbeeno, I presume BMT stands for "Bok Menstrual Tension"??.....
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Aug 2014, 12:21
#13
19 Aug 2014, 12:21#13

 There should never have been an issue surrounding Pollard, everyone wants the kid to be a success, every dinky dye Bok fan has been suffering the arrival that would take the Boks to another level. By now the poor kid has been reading his own ....it can't be good. Depending on who you read some say Meyer must persist with him, others differ and say there is no rush and that he is not being properly managed.

 

Everyone has an opinion. My own is that he should only come on in the second half when the Boks are leading by a sizeable score, that way he is not overly pressured into making it happen for the Boks.

 

 

What's the rush? We tend to forget that he is a mere 20 years old.

 

The nutcases are the ones who are pressing to ruin the kid before he's even started.

 

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Aug 2014, 13:35
#14
19 Aug 2014, 13:35#14
 Well said Denny.
Flashdakota
FlashdakotaClub Pro805 posts
19 Aug 2014, 13:36
#15
19 Aug 2014, 13:36#15
 Yes
Well summed up by the man fro m down under!
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