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The Proteas and De Kock

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Feb 2014, 08:38
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20 Feb 2014, 08:38#1

The following from Supersport:-


"Highveld Lions batsman Quinton de Kock has been called up into the Proteas test squad as batting cover for Alviro Petersen who is struggling with a viral infection.

De Kock will return to his franchise if Petersen is fit to play. A decision on Petersen's availability will be made on Thursday before the toss in the second test against Australia at Axxess St George's in Port Elizabeth."


The problem is that from a cricket perspective both Petersen and Smith suffers from a serious strain of "viral infection"  -  against quality bowlers they both produce SHIT and no decent scores.   Weak bowling attacks are their forte.


Really hope they play De Kock ahead of Petersen - he cannot do worse than Petersen did in the first test   

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
20 Feb 2014, 11:06
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20 Feb 2014, 11:06#2
are.................. 2/11 hahahaha GO MITCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Feb 2014, 11:58
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20 Feb 2014, 11:58#3
 He got Amla - who has had a run of bad form recently.  Harris got Smith, but that really is no big achievement - that guy is so putrid in performing - it is unbelievable.  
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Feb 2014, 22:17
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20 Feb 2014, 22:17#4
 I hope you can see that QdK has still a long way to go to become a test bat, never mind opener.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Feb 2014, 00:07
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21 Feb 2014, 00:07#5
Agreed Draad. This was a Typical Oom call. This kid has great potential, but the selectors were right to go slow. By contrast the much maligned Faff continues to register good innings. 
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Feb 2014, 01:05
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21 Feb 2014, 01:05#6
Let's hope the South African batsmen have got this misplaced respect for Johnson out of their system. I think in the first test, SA put Johnson on a pedestal due to what he did against England and their mindset was their downfall. I mean, a few of Johnson's wickets were gifted and very "soft" dismissals. You need only look at pietersen to see what I mean. 
1 wicket yesterday for Johnson. That's about what he deserves and is worth in 15 overs. He is no Dale Steyn. He is in the form of his life but he will be back to his usual inconsistency before long. With the SA bowling attack, you will always get consistency.
SA need to look at 350 as being a decent first innings score. 400 and they have played out their boots but a lot of that will depend on how AB goes. We get Aus in and role them for 250. Easy game!
It's just a pity the Protea batsmen let their standards slip in the first test and showed Johnson too much respect but this wave Johnson is riding is getting a little to big for him and he is about to come crashing back down to earth. SA to win series 2-1
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Feb 2014, 02:17
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21 Feb 2014, 02:17#7

Mozart


Sure - I see he has a long way to go - BUT he will succeed.  Kallis had in his first ten test innings never scored more than 15 runs in an innings - yet he succeeded.


I think that what went wrong with De Kock today is hardly a reason for judging him.  He had a rush of blood when they let a mediocre part time bowler bowl at him - thinking he can get runs easily,   He did well enough playing the frontline bowlers he faced - especially when playing Harris - better than Smith did in any event.       


I have never once said anything negative about Faf - so aim your remarks at Saffex please.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Feb 2014, 02:28
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21 Feb 2014, 02:28#8

 boklogic


The first test was a mess from the word go.  Smith buggered up with the toss and then he and Petersen went out for near to no runs in both innings,  With Amla having a dip in form - he cannot open innings - like he was virtually forced to in both the previous test and yesterday.


Be it as it may - Smith will keep on failing against decent bowlers and that will just add to the batting problems at present encountered by Amla.  


Be it as it may Johnson today was cut down to size and he will remain cut down to size in future.   They will keep him at bay and score at a lower run rate - but with the exception of Smith and an out of form Amla - he is unlikely to bowl out any other batters of note.   


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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Feb 2014, 03:26
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21 Feb 2014, 03:26#9
One must remember that the last test was our first without our rock and mainstay Jacques Kallis. The tougher the situation, the more Kallis digs in and grinds. That's what made him one of the best batsmen we will ever see. I realise that he can't play forever but we sure could have used him to blunt Johnson in the first test because he like De Villiers are not mind fucked by any bowlers. 
Remember Brett Lee's purple patch. Came to an abrupt end against India when the little maestro Sachin Tedulkar decided he was going to attack him and bring him back down to earth and Sachin scored big runs. Kallis was our Sachin!He departed us 1 series too soon unfortunately!
Anyway, Mitch Johnson is not as good as the Aussies think he is. Prior to his purple patch, the Poms had a song for his wayward bowling. Mitch Johnson, he bowls to the left, he bowls to the right, Mitch Johnson, his bowling is just shite!Enjoy it while it lasts big guy but in all honesty, he needed this as Aussies have a lot of young quicks knocking on the door and Johnson was treading water. This patch has prolonged his career and good on him for getting his head right and fighting his way back 
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
21 Feb 2014, 06:58
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21 Feb 2014, 06:58#10

Id say that day 1 was halved... early excellent start by aussies was offset by good partnership for most of the day...


I get the feeling that this test will be decied by spinners and not quicks... which saffas have how many...????


By preparing a dirt track reminiscent of sub-continent it shows the saffas are scared of Mitchy and this pitch wont help the saffa bowlers either....


Looking like a good test match shaping up...



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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Feb 2014, 10:44
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21 Feb 2014, 10:44#11
 Nah Redsman, the pitch is playing exactly how a PE track has played since forever. Players knew what to expect. Its just Johnson's true colours coming out. He should take a few tail enders though. It is his forte' after all.
Lets see if he doesnt get the results he has of late in this test if he sulks. Nothing better than a Mitch Johnson trying to hard..Its anybodies guess where the ball will go then..Certainly keep Haddin on his toes..
Lets just wait and see what the best attack in the world can do. No doubt they will be bowling at some stage this arvo.
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Feb 2014, 10:58
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21 Feb 2014, 10:58#12
 Redsman, is it starting. Here is espncricinfo.com commentary. Making Haddin earn his money I see..As I said, try harder Johnson..Your true colours are showing ;-)
93.1

Johnson to Duminy, no run, full and down leg at 141ks, it has Haddin diving full length to prevent byes


93.3

Johnson to de Villiers, no run, wide length ball, over to Haddin


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
21 Feb 2014, 11:26
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21 Feb 2014, 11:26#13
 Yeah right, the fearsome Johnson:

MG Johnson 20 overs, 4 maidens, 61 runs, 1 wicket, 3.05 r.p.o    (1w)

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
21 Feb 2014, 11:30
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21 Feb 2014, 11:30#14

haha for an inconsistent bowler hes just played the best 6months continuous in his career...


Im not too familiar with PE normal conditions but the reports were they weren't watering for the last week leading up and that its been very hot over there...


anyway fortunately I have fox and watching live so needn't worry about commentary... AB just hi t a six fyi 



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CeradynePro9,374 posts
21 Feb 2014, 11:40
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21 Feb 2014, 11:40#15
 It took SA one test match to figure him out. The pitch is a piss poor excuse.
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
21 Feb 2014, 11:41
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21 Feb 2014, 11:41#16
 flat pitch looking like good batting wicket... will be interesting if aussies can bat well on it... new ball is the key
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Feb 2014, 11:43
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21 Feb 2014, 11:43#17
 How dumb was the groundsman in the last test to prepare a pitch with cracks on it and make it a russina roulette affair. That groundsman is the villain of the piece.Nice to see duminy batting decently.As the commentators says he has to perform with the bat or else he will be dropped.
De Kock is class and glad to see him there. Much better looking side.Elgar also showed he has guts.
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Feb 2014, 11:49
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21 Feb 2014, 11:49#18
 "I'm very surprised at Siddle's inaccuracy this innings. He normally thrives in the really tough bowling conditions but he's chucking pies at the moment....."
Commentators quote above. Mr commentator, we told you already. Aussies rely on Mitch Johnsons form..Its all they got. When that goes, they have nothing!!
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
21 Feb 2014, 12:17
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21 Feb 2014, 12:17#19
 Mark Nicolas also mention that the Aussie bowlers aren't as disciplined today as they were yesterday.
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Feb 2014, 12:38
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21 Feb 2014, 12:38#20
 Redsman, that just shows how 1 dimensional (I wana say the Aussie bowlers but you only have 1 bowler worth a shit) Johnson is. As soon as the wicket is not aiding him, he looks like shit whereas Steyn and Philander make a plan. They have to bowl to conditions and good enough to do that.
Johnson needs a soft, green wicket otherwise he is pap my bru!
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
22 Feb 2014, 11:54
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22 Feb 2014, 11:54#21
You see Redsman, as I said, the best bowling attack in the world finds a way to take wickets.Imagine Amla and Peterson could catch as well. Haddin and Smith would have been tickets long ago.
SA must get under Johnson's skin now so he tries even harder in the 2nd innings.  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
22 Feb 2014, 15:14
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22 Feb 2014, 15:14#22
 Forget it BL. Redsman has abandoned this thread.
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