The quest for a really good no 15

Saffex selects , Taute, SP Marais, Visser, Andries Coetzee: Beeno agrees but adds Willie much to Saffex's annoyance who insists Willie must only play wing.

Sadly although the above candidates are all good and are indeed a step up from ZK we do not have a Andre Joubert, HO De Villiers,Percy Montgomery, Israel Dagg or Christian Cullen.

I believe this is the weakest link in the SA side and once a star is found and cultivated then I believe you'll see a differerent side....

Could Willie be the man...maybe...Monty started as a centre (if I remember correctly) and did not impress in early days. Wings are not in short supply and maybe Willie should be groomed for this role...he has the x factor and an aura of stardom in his style...there's no question of that. Could this be the answer...maybe.

Seb

Montgomery did start at center and was a roaring success in at least two tests under Du Plessis.   Mallett moved him to number 15 where he became a legend - after something of a drop down in the years 2000-2004.   When White brought him back into contention.   Monty was a very clever player -  and would have been successful in most positions in the backline.  

Saffex at times has some weird ideas about players.   I liked what I saw of Taute when he played full back for the Lions in 2011 and 2012.   Because of injuries, the Lions  moved him to center - where to my mind he was a flop for both the Lions and subsequently the Springboks.  

Because of the Jantjies fiasco and his subsequent injury he did not have much playing time for the Stromer in 2012.    From the little I saw of him in 2013  I was disappointed - his speed was less than I can remember and he developed the Francois Steyn psyche - do not try and create and run into space - run directly at the first tackler and think you can run over or through him - none ever worked and the result was the inevitable crashball.   His line kicking was also not really up to standard - if he tried to make relieving kicks it would stay in field - if he tried strategic kicks it would go out of touch on the full.

That is why I said he can play himself back into contention this year - but I think he has a mountain to climb.  

Saffex other choice of Marais is near the mark.   I saw him playing for the Kings in Super 15 and in subsequent matches for the Sharks.   In many ways he reminds me of our better full backs over the years - a very clever player and one o watch out for the future.   Visser is still very young - but he looks like he has potential.   He was kept out of the Bulls Super 15 team by Kirchner - but whenever he did play he showed potential and he was in fact a better full back than Kirchner was.   Andries Coetzee was the second choice full back of the Lions and he is not really in contention for anything. 

You cannot only count on one full back - so we need to evaluate what comes out of Super 15 this year.   I have  feeling we may end up with Le Roux, Lambie and Marais as our potential full backs. 

We will have to find replacements for a few players in the Springbok set up - that is why proper evaluation of player performances in Super 15 this year will have to be done with honesty and objectivity.

I am confident that we have the players to take over from the player who showed performance deficiencies last year - but the upcoming Super series would show us the way forward.  

Wrong, I never said Willie should only play wing, in fact I prefer him at fullback.

I select Willie on the wing to accommodate Taute at 15.......that's my simple reasoning, but would be more than happy with Willie at 15.

He is better than Andre Joubert and Percy - HO cannot be compared with modern players   

 "Montgomery did start at center and was a roaring success in at least two tests under Du Plessis.   Mallett moved him to number 8 where he became a legend - after something of a drop down in the years 2000-2004.".....says the OOM.

The OoM's tenuous grasp on reality seems to be failing.

Mozart

Just a reminder of the 1997 test where the Aussies were beaten 63 - 22, the last game where Du Plessis was coach.   Monty scored a long distance try - but the question is - in which position did he start for the Springboks - he started at CENTER.  

Same situation was in the Lions last test of 1997.   Go back please an find out what the real situation was.   Your grasp on reality is non-existent.

APO LOGY CALLED FOR

Sun  Tzu

Thanks for he real entertainment provided by you on this site.   You are funny beyond belief - coming up with the latest Kirchner funny - that after the Morne Steyn one.

Are you a real life comedian using farce for entertainment purposes?

Both Kirchner and Morne Steyn are below par on international level and those are facts.   Cleancut gave a very true breakdown on Morne and his last two years were disastrous .

Incidentally Aplon did not make the grade when given the opportunity to play in tests in 2009-10.   Aplon is a top class Super seies and CC player - who failed to make the step up to test level.

Ceradyne

I am sick and tired of your shit - you are not as think as a plank - jy is to toe soos 'n kleios se gat.

Let me quote for you - doos _

"Montgomery earned his first Springbok cap against the British and Irish Lions in July 1997 as an outside centre. He played at the 1999 Rugby World Cup finals and had amassed 50 caps by the end of 2001."

Exactly what I wrote.   He also played  overseas from 2002 to 2005 -  when he was not rated highly because h was playing for MEDIOCRE NH clubs.

Now go back to your room in the lunatic asylum where you belong and stop talking kak on this site. 

    I think that Monty played overseas somewhere between  

Mozasrt

 I will not apologize- corrected  the number when I looked at my comments again - while you were posting your normal abusive item.   I did  not notice that sneaky Mozart tried to use an obvious error to launch his normal nasty  attack on me.   

You remain what was recently being state on this site - a very nasty person and that after I tried to keep the peace.   Will remember this bullshit and do not tell me that I was the one responsible.  

Just accept what is going to cone your way.