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The rating of the players yesterday

Started by clevermike3 REPLIES201 VIEWS· 20 Sept 2015, 09:30
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Sept 2015, 09:30
#1
20 Sept 2015, 09:30#1
This from Newes 24:-
" If what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, then South Africa should be well nigh invincible for the remainder of the World Cup.

Er, maybe.

About the only positive thing you can say in the aftermath of an earth-shuddering day for rugby – and not just our beloved, crying country - is that most Springbok players managed to get to their feet and find their emotionally-bloodied way to the tunnel in Brighton on Saturday.

They have lived to fight another day, following a stunning 34-32 upset at the hands of Japan’s Brave Blossoms, although that assignment looms uncomfortably quickly: they must pick up the pieces to face the famed brutality of Samoa just a week up the road in Birmingham.

The Boks were truly caught cold by the planet’s 13th-ranked nation in their RWC 2015 opener at the Community Stadium, all sorts of grotesque failings coming to the fore.

A massive turnaround task lies ahead for a shamed, presumably highly shell-shocked group of players.

Look away from their game one performance cards if you are squeamish ...

Here’s how I rated the Boks out of 10 in Brighton:

Zane Kirchner: 5

Many preconceived views on this player ... yet one of the better Boks on this ghastly day, in truth. Moment of early ball-in-hand promise, some gutsy front-on tackles and a big touch-finder just before halftime. Not type to pull a game from fire, though.  

Bryan Habana: 4

Body language of this senior pro perhaps needed to be better – morose sort of game, though deserved to be irked by Bok inability to create proper space for their fliers.  

Jesse Kriel: 4.5

Did try hard to make things happen, working desperately to wriggle out of low tackles and earning mini-break or two. Fatally swatted off in lead-up to popular winning try, though.

Jean de Villiers: 4

Looked, frankly, like the under-pressure veteran he is; had an effect on his normally vibrant leadership. Couldn’t get into space, plus some rare blemishes in defensive positioning.  

Lwazi Mvovo: 4.5

So little came his way as an offensive factor that it is hard to judge him. No glaring errors, which is something?

Pat Lambie: 5

Wasn’t empowered enough to take charge: lots of forwards seemed to smash it up laboriously off Pienaar. Glimpses of promise, but also a horribly shanked kick into touch straight after break.

Ruan Pienaar: 3.5

All he really did was serve as a shovel. And not always the zippiest one, at that. No hint of verve or inspiration, and we’ve said this about him often before.

Schalk Burger: 5

Arguably the hardest-working Bok player, to his credit. That mustn’t be overlooked. But also a bit too cavalier and prone to mistakes; could have protected ball better when in possession.

Pieter-Steph du Toit: 4.5

Tough gig having to come in as late blindside flank replacement for Willem Alberts. No special “wow” factor (where did we see that from SA as a whole?) but stuck determinedly enough to his guns.

Francois Louw: 4.5

Long way off his best, albeit another Bok who is well short of a recent gallop. Struggled for turnovers as the intended main man there, but did other solid work at close quarters.

Victor Matfield: 6

For little it’s worth, lock combination was probably Boks’ best by position. Matfield was right in the trenches for the duration, including trying to lead by example in dramatic closing minutes when SA were heavily under cosh: good stuff for man of 38.  

Lood de Jager: 6.5

Highlights Bok muddy waters in selection that he probably wouldn’t have played had Eben Etzebeth been fully fit! But not for first time in 2015, possibly the standout SA player. Consistently industrious in tight-loose, and lovely athleticism for tearaway try.

Jannie du Plessis: 4

Made bright enough start in open play; good mobility and purpose. (Was he denied only a second Bok career try by poor TMO work?) But his game receded rather violently, along with Bok fortunes.  

Bismarck du Plessis: 4

Always the sort of player to push boundaries, and sometimes that works amazingly. But here he was heavily pinged at breakdown or offside line - three penalties - so unavoidably has to be marked down.

Tendai Mtawarira: 3.5

Particularly innocuous and disappointing, I thought. Turned over in an early carry, and the bug just spread through ranks. Struggled for real scrum oomph, too.

Standout substitute:

Fourie du Preez: 6  

Adriaan Strauss and Siya Kolisi also tried valiantly to light the fire off bench, but the roughly 25 minutes of activity - at last! - from the ageing scrumhalf maestro did at least provide crumbs of comfort for what lies ahead. You just felt the tempo lifted a notch in the position from ‘FDP’.


There was some serious over-ratings in the above and that is evident in the following cases:-


*   Kirchner - for clueless play - 3.5

*   Burger - for poor ball losses  - 3.5 

*   Matfield - for standing around when he should be involved - 4

*   Bismarck - for giving away 4 (not 3)  penalties  3

*   Jannie  -  for vanishing from the game - 3.5

*   Du Preez - little time on the field, but better than Pienaar - 4.5

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Sept 2015, 10:03
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20 Sept 2015, 10:03#2
 The mind boggles that the twit gives victor a 6. This is incredible. He ranks him slighly lower than Lood who was far far better. 
Burger was 6.5 or 7. 
A game plan that was entirely predictable with no plan B was made mince meat of by Eddie Jones.
The backline was denuded of a number of more dangerous players and the pack poorly selected.It was a mess. So often we get away with it because the Boks are too strong dispite all the short comings of selections and strategy etc. This time it all came home to roost. We need to move out of the amateur era into the professional era. That means striving for excellence. The whole set up smacks of blundering, amateurish nonsense.Nieaber the best defence coach around is not there. Ricardo Louncher - what are his credentials etc etc. There is nobody there like a Rassie with brain power. That is the biggest problem. Get this right and better selections and strategy will follow.TThe merit principle must be whole heartedly embraced. central contracting put in place. Top coaches appointed. Fewer provinces? The ediface is crumbling under the weight of mediocre managment. Lardy gets appointed CEO of the Sharks with zero experience and jake white packs his bages. Mallet and Rassie walk out of WP. This all speaks volumes. A buffoon like PDV becomes Bok coach!!!!! The volumes reaches a crescendo.

Rugby is South Africa is run by incompetent mamparas for the most part. Many are just on the gravy train. We need competence and merit to flourish in a highly professional era. We also need much more to be done to stop the overseas exodus. We need to find heaps of money. But right now we are in a downward spiral and the Boks of old are no more.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
20 Sept 2015, 10:08
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20 Sept 2015, 10:08#3
 Thanks ouMaaik ................ good to see that Matfield ended up as the Bok m.o.m.
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
20 Sept 2015, 10:12
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20 Sept 2015, 10:12#4
 De Jager was about an 8 far as im concerned. He looked so good in a bad sa performance. Matfield 6 lol, more like -6.
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