CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jul 2014, 19:08#3
Although I mostly agree with you - there are players not available for the RC through injury and some others who should not be anywhere near the squad.
Full Backs
No problem
Wings
No problem
Centers
Sorry - but JJ had ample chances and botched it and Taute is not a center - he is a full back. Steyn flopped badly at center this year in Super 15 and would be no asset in the RC - in any event his latest tantrum ruled him out of future selection. I would add De Villiers to that list and if need be Jordaan - definitely not the three I mentioned.
Half Backs
No problem
Props
Kitshoff is injured - out for the rest of 2014. I would rather see Sarel van der Merwe of the Lions in his place.
Locks
No problem - but I think Du Plessis is also out with an injury for at least pa rt of the RC
Loosies
A few bizarre selections - but I will not going into that one. I think the first name after Vermeulen on that list should be Jacques Potgieter - he had a top performance record with the Waratahs.
By the way Kolisi was mediocre throughout Super 15 and I do not think he is in contention anymore - maybe Mohoje though.
sharkbok
Captain23,294 posts
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
15 Jul 2014, 21:02#4
Lets looks at some of the worst selections from Saffex
Fullbacks: SP Marais- He does not have the pace to be a test level fullback. He does not offer much with ball in hand either and lacks x-factor.
Verdict on SP Marais: best to stick with established squad players until a new young fullback enters the picture that is international level. Why bother with SP Marais who struggles to hold down a starting position at SuperXV level. Caps should not be handed out like Candy floss at the local Circus. Centres: JJ / Taute. Suddenly Taute is back as a favourite, even though Taute himself does not want to be selected at centre. Taute was worse than useless in his 2 tests at centre, and marginally better than useless in his 3rd test.
JJ who has been the least effective centre on attack in 2014 during SuperXV is still in the squad somehow. JJ has proven he is a good attacker in space and he must only be considered as a wing.
Props: Kitshoff and Malherbe are both injured but they should be selected in the RC Squad. Kitshoff in particular is going to be out for ages. Hookers: Chiliboy has a pending drug charge for anabolic steroids. Wouldnt it be great if he is found guilty during the RC and the Boks reputation is dragged through the mud, or even fined for having squad players on steroids. Just having him in the squad would be a PR disaster as the Boks could appear to endorse the usage of steroids or at the very least ignore the IRB's ongoing investigation. Locks: Saffex has selected 6 locks in his squad, including the injured Jacques du Plessis. Hopefully du Plessis does not mind playing with a broken jaw Loosies: Here we have 8 loose forwards in the squad. 8 Loosies including the 6 locks above is 14 players already. What has allways amazed me is how Saffex's squads can include 100's of players in a squad that has a limit of 30 players or less.... ----I love reading this shit, it brings tears to my eyes.
15 Jul 2014, 22:16#6
Bree Bors Platarms Liebenberg?
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jul 2014, 22:20#7
dof doos cerudunce windpomp are you trying to grunt something?
15 Jul 2014, 22:35#8
Damn. I have just stopped laughing and now you got me started all over again.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jul 2014, 22:53#9
Are you looking in the mirror then!
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Jul 2014, 23:12#10
Beeno, it does not become you to start swearing. Don't let Mikes frustrations lure you to the Dark side!
15 Jul 2014, 23:34#11
Nah. I read your post and remembered how often you were all holier than thou about language and name calling. Remember the picture of the guy with the condom on his head, and how long you were pissing and moaning about it across forums?
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jul 2014, 23:39#12
Sorry draad I should have put that comment in quotation marks. Is that acceptable? I did leave out windpomps other board name vlagshit (snapsters term of endearment) OUT AS I THOUGHT IT A BIT VULGAR.What a collection of names ou windpomp is collecting!!
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jul 2014, 03:28#13
Biggest Sapp laughs:
JJ and Taute at centre.
Goosen as our lead flyhalf
Coenie as our lead tighthead
Chili...isn't he under a drug prohibition?
Kolisi and CJ Stander.
There are many other lesser issues.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2014, 04:46#14
Sharkbok
Just one thing - Malherbe was out with concussion and will be back to play in the CC startting before the RC. Matter of fact he could have been back already in the Super 15 - but was kept out as a precautionary measure - why risk him before the RC.
Beeno
The squad will be 28 players - normally consisting of 3 scrummies and 3 hookers lrsving 33 players for the other 13 positions.
This normally means that they have to choose multi-skilled players for some positions, eg flyhalf - where one of those can also cover full back - and th same applies to wings and centers.
A typical backline squad of 13 should therefore be as follows:
Full back - Willie le RouxWings - Bryan Havana, JP Pietersen, Lwazi MvovoCenters - Jean de Villiers, Damian de Alende, Jan SerfonteinFlyhalfs - Johan Goosen, Patrick Lambie, Handre PollardScrummies - Cobus Reinach, Francois Hougaard, Nic Groom
There are normally backk up players kept in readiness if any of the squad memebers are injured. Amiongst the backline players - thiose can include Hendricks, Jordaan, Morne Steyn, etc. However, although De Klerk is popular - Ackerman did not do him any favours by not starting with him recently
I hope that they finally will get rid of players like Morne Steyn (a serious flop in the second Welsh test and his Club performances this year, as well as the aging Ruan Pienaar - who is just not fast enough in service anymore.
I have my doubts about Hendricks as well. He was a good finisher in the recent test matches - but is not very secure under high balls.
The forwards account for 15 players - eg three hookers and five props The other three positions are covered by 7 players. Normally there are 1 no 8 and three loosies and three locks.
Based on that the selection should likely be as follows:-
No 8 - Duane VermeulenLoosies - Jacques Potgieter, Francois Louw, Marcel CoetzeeLocks - Eben Etzebeth, Lodewyk de Jager, Paul WillemseProps - Tendai Mtawarire, Sarel van der Merwe, Jannie Du Plessis, Frans Malherbe, Trevor NyakaneHookers - Bismarck du Plessis, Adriian Strauss, Siyabonga Ntubeni
the combination will still not have enough BEE selections of which there will only be 6 - so Meyer may be forced to pick two others as well - which could make life very difficult for him.
Insofar as the other selections are concerned - Meyer may want to persist with the phyiclly-deficient Victor Matfield - but that will not last - he is still good enough in line outs - but not good enough for the rest of the work of a lock and he is extremely unlikely to last through the full season.
Players like Alberts do not bring enough to the loosie game to warrant selection at all. There could be among the forwards back up players like Coenie Oosthuizen, Marcel van der Merwe and Oupa Mohoje.
16 Jul 2014, 12:00#15
"The squad will be 28 players - normally consisting of 3 scrummies and 3 hookers lrsving 33 players for the other 13 positions."
3+3+33=39.
PS. The squad is normally 30 players. Not 28.
16 Jul 2014, 12:40#16
Come now Saffex ... that's an awful squad.
The object is surely to try win the competition ... isn't it?
Not with those bunch of chumps.
16 Jul 2014, 13:13#17
That wasn't an acceptable response, CleanCut !! :o
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2014, 13:17#18
Ceradyne
That 33 is a typing error on my part - it is 22. The RC squad consist of 28 players - and that is a fact.
16 Jul 2014, 13:33#19
Hey there, becs.
Saffex has a stubborn side to him. He knows very well that the likes of JJ, HouGat, Taute, Kolisi and Coenie don't belong in the squad ... yet he persists with them.
Well ... I hope it's that stubborn side of his merely trying to ruffle our feathers ... and not that he genuinely thinks these are our best ... you think ??? ... say it's not so.
16 Jul 2014, 14:19#21
I know very well how stubborn Saffex is, CleanCut. He puts the mule to shame
So expect fireworks when he sees your response.....are you up for a row about it ?
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Jul 2014, 14:37#23
Mike gets his facts tangled sometimes and he gets things wrong, but he's no lier.
16 Jul 2014, 15:41#24
Really Draad? He is a blatant liar. I have loads of examples for you. Should we start with PSG? Or do you want me to go back further?
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2014, 15:55#25
When Meyer discussed the issue of squad sel;ection for the RC he said specificaally it would be very difficult for him to select a squad of 28 for the RC. Clearly - it as in a news report as well.
Dofste Doos
Hiou op om kak te praat - jou onnosel ding.
16 Jul 2014, 16:56#26
Not really, becs. Been there, done that.
Need a new challenge.
Tried the codger Mozart out but he's deteriorated to what we see today. Predictable and boring. Poor fool doesn't know half the time where he's at. My daddy told me that I should never bully the aged cause I may be held liable if they were to keel over.
Redneck doesn't wanna play. Looks like the poor dear's as bored as I am. Either that or he's off pouting over something or other. Prone to that, you know. Pouting that is.
Beandip has been posting a lot more sense lately ... so I can't exactly rip into him when I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he has to say. I know ... it's worrying.
Wilma ... that ugly bitch with the foul mouth seems to have disappeared. Besides she didn't have much of a repertoire ... always wanting me to copulate with her daughter. As if I'd dip my pecker into anything that foul.
Fraid I'm stuck with Ceradyne aka Devil's Advocate, who doesn't know his arse from his elbow at the best of times. Besides, he doesn't put up much of a fight so I lose interest. Him and Mike seem to be having fun though, and I feel kinda guilty sticking my nose in there.
What's a man to do?
16 Jul 2014, 18:26#27
Well, Saffex will be cross, I can assure you.
I don't know Wilma....missed that one ! Thankfully by the sounds of it.
You can pick a fight with me if you want....I'm most deflated at present, but I might reignite a little if pushed. Although, it is doubtful, I have to say......
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2014, 19:40#30
Doffies
Meyer himself said he has to pick a squad of 28 players and I am not going to argue with him on that one. Wait and see the squad he announced and then start to wet yourself about nothing - as you normally do.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2014, 19:43#32
Dof Doos
Sorry - I really thought he said 28 - but what makes the difference so awe-inspiring that you have to go on all-out attack - worm shit?
16 Jul 2014, 19:57#33
I cannot believe that you were even thinking of asking such a kak question, let alone actually asking.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2014, 20:05#34
Now here we have Windpomp, Dof Doos, Worm Shit and Saffex choice description of our member that follows lother posters trying to denigrate them and and makes no rugby contributioon of value ever. Wonder why everybody wants to shit all over you?
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Jul 2014, 20:13#35
Mike, Meyer have to pick 28. Morne and Matfield are the automitic selections to complete the 30 man squad. You were both right! :-)
16 Jul 2014, 20:16#36
The only ones who want "to shit all aover me" are the ones who have been shown up for posting bullshit. You are leading the pack with the most bullshit, closely followed by Safesex. Don't let it worry you, though. It is quite funny and very easy, I might add, to rectify your "facts". The only fact as far as you are concerned is the fact that when you say that something is a fact, those facts can easily busted within minutes.
16 Jul 2014, 20:59#37
I'll have to wait for someone to relight my fire, DA
Could take some time.......
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jul 2014, 21:40#38
Baldy even if I could hold you liable for something what's the point....a big share of nothing hardly warrants the effort. But say tell us again, what was it you do in life....hahahahaha.... time for the deep dive.
17 Jul 2014, 14:00#39
Poef ... I spend my day helping old timers cross busy streets.
Any codger wearing a white wig tends to receive extra special treatment and NO ... I'm not referring to the gas chamber or any unnecessary rough stuff.
I usually throw the weedy, frail old man over my broad shoulders, cause they're prone to stopping mid way across ... confused ... lost ... with that "please tell me where the fcuk I am " look in the eye.
An upstanding citizen doing his bit to help those who can no longer help themselves.
And all the time you thought I was a meany.
DEDenny
Captain12,893 posts
17 Jul 2014, 14:09#40
Do you carry your knife around as well?
