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The real shame for Justin Marshall

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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
20 Feb 2019, 20:17
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20 Feb 2019, 20:17#1
Law discussion: penalty try AND yellow card
Rugby365‘s very own law guru Paul Dobson shed light on the Penalty try and yellow card incident during Crusaders’ win over the Blues.

What the commentator, Justin Marshall, has to say may cause some confusion – It follows the penalty try and yellow card decision in the first half of the Super Rugby match in Auckland between the Blues and the Crusaders.

Richie Mo’unga of the Crusaders kicks a penalty into touch for a lineout some 12 metres in from the Blues’ goal-line. Scott Barrett of the Crusaders catches the ball in the lineout. He brings it down and flank Matt Todd of the Crusaders get possession of the ball. The Crusaders drive the maul rapidly towards the Blues goal-line. Tom Robertson of the Blues attempts to get the ball. He is going lower and lower on Todd, and centimetres from the goal-line, the maul collapses. The referee awards a penalty try and sends Robinson to the sin bin.

Marshall says: “It’s a massive call. I the penalty try justifies the infringement (sic). However, he [the referee] has decided to double penalise you, if I may. He has decided to go penalty try AND put the player who was responsible for stopping it solely and forcing the penalty try in the bin as well. So that’s a huge call but massive for the Crusaders who decided to kick for touch and they get the ultimate out of it.”

(The idea of the penalty try justifying the infringement may well be confusing as it probably meant to mean that the penalty is justified by the infringement.)

In reviewing the incident, Tony Johnson, the main commentator, says: “I don’t think he [the referee] had any other option.”

Marshall: “I think he had no other option than a penalty try but I’m not sure about the sin bin as well. A penalty try us pretty harsh punishment. It justifies the infringement.”


Let’s look to the laws of the game.

Law 8.3 Penalty try
A penalty try is awarded between the goal posts if foul play by the opposing team prevents a probable try from being scored, or scored in a more advantageous position. A player guilty of this must be cautioned and temporarily suspended or sent off. No conversion is attempted.

The referee’s job is to apply the laws and the law requires that a player who causes a penalty try to be awarded must be temporarily suspended, i.e. sent to the sin bin. The referee did what he was required to do.

And by the way, intentionally breaking the law is an aspect of foul play as it intentionally collapsing a maul.

Law 9, in the newest version of the laws, is the one dealing with foul play,

Law 9.7 Unfair play
A player must not:
a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game.

Law 9.20 Dangerous play in a ruck or maul.
c. A player must not intentionally collapse a ruck or a maul.


Well into the second half, there is a second penalty try, this time with no yellow card.

The Crusaders have a scrum five metres from the Blues line and the Crusaders  get a strong shove on. The Blues break up just short of their goal-line, and the referee awards a penalty try.

There is – correctly – no yellow card here because no individual can be identified as the guilty party.


By Paul Dobson
@rugby365com

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
20 Feb 2019, 20:18
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20 Feb 2019, 20:18#2

here is more clearly showed that the guy has no clue about the rugby laws,... last season he was doing the same with the cards shown to players tackling others in the air,.... and that's a total lack of professionalism,.... it takes 2 hours to read the f*cking rugby laws,... 2 hours,.... but the guy is completely unable to dedicate a couple of hours to something he's living from,...

and having no clue he dares to correct and criticize the refs,... he's misleading the public,..... in a very complex and sensitive issue as the reffing,.... the last thing the sport needs is an incompetent messing up everything even more

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 Feb 2019, 08:55
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21 Feb 2019, 08:55#3

Watch rugby lon g enough and you realise that nobody knows the rules.

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