BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jul 2014, 18:55#2
I predicted this years ago Brycy. Nz could not forever be the sole exploiter of Pacific Island talent. Oz was bound to take the gap and pull in a few.
Could you do a similar exercise re Pacific islanders playing in nz Brycy.
Now you can all work out why the Pacific Islanders are left out in the cold.
Another point I made years ago.
Beeno understanding the deeper issues!
19 Jul 2014, 21:38#3
Bean Brain ...NZ happens to be a group of islands in the Pacific my geographically challenged friend so maybe go to allblack.com for the team list...taking over Australian rugby is something you predicted years ago, well if you say so...but it's obvious the percentage of Pacific Islanders (which includes NZers) are up in the Australian teams and of course it's no coincidence that the Aussies rugby , rugby league and many other sports have improved markedly as a result...
SHSharky54
Club Pro247 posts
SHSharky54Club Pro247 posts
19 Jul 2014, 21:39#4
Perhaps South Africa should start harvesting these guys as well....
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jul 2014, 21:43#5
Brycy you mention 2 moaris. So only two from Nz? Rest are from what I term the pacific Islands - Fiji, Tonga and Samao.
Any how how many of these guys are playing in NZ super 15 comp? Seesm OZ are snaffling the talent! Hahahahahahaha ha
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
20 Jul 2014, 14:26#6
Yep and it will only continue as more and more talented kiwis bail NZ or struggle to make the AB starting or training squad they get picked up and thrown straight into the Wallabies starting 15..... We call it NZ Dreggs.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Jul 2014, 14:37#7
The wobblies have been third rate for a while now despite kiwis giving them a coach & a lot of players.
NZ is exporting players all over the world & it is improving rugby everywhere. Keeps the sport growing internationally. SA is also exporting players but they don't end up on the national team, not good enough I guess
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2014, 15:35#8
I do not kno why this huilabaloo about nothing. Rugby is nowadays a professional sport and players go where they can earn the lolly - nothing else. I cannot car ewhere player play - but where I think a line dhould be drawn is where the players are phased iinto the national sides.
That weakens the smaller - less well-of countries from having decent national teams. This is where NZ are wrong - and even more so Australia. Surely they have enough players internally without scooping up the talented players from the Pacific Islands.
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
20 Jul 2014, 15:59#9
Yes, most PI players that are AB are raised in NZ, they grow up their. Not jump on a plane one day and sign a NZRU contract, more the Wallaby side that draw NZ players who leave NZ after ITM games and hunt Australian SR contract that leads to Wallaby contracts. SA players go for the money in Europe and Japan, better for their personal financial prospects not the country.
A lot of SA are poorly misinformed or uninformed on this Pacific Island issue, Tongan and Fijians migrate to NZ for a better future, they bring their kids their kids play rugby with NZ kids or they are born in NZ with PI parents doesn't mean NZRU poached some small child from his native island because he looked good with a rugby ball. Like some crazy slave(rugby style)trade.
20 Jul 2014, 16:37#10
To throw a little insight into the maTter for you all...
There are SOOOOO MANY DAMN KIWIS LIVING IN AUSTRALIA SURELY ONE OR TWO OF THEM MIGHT BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY FOR THE COUNTRY THEY WERE BORN AND BRED IN...
furthermore there are pribably more islanders that live here than live in nz and the islands combined..... so guess what they play rugby for australia.... and so they should.
Quite frankly without the pi and kiwi influence rugby would die a very slow death in this country.
So shut your damn whinging up you whinging kwis considering youve got more thana few aussie born players in the AIGS.....
Btw how did the kiwi teams go last night... ahahahahahahahzah thats right they all lost... hahahaha
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
20 Jul 2014, 16:51#11
Nice one Red, not over yet buddy. Tahs are the favorites statistically thinking. Nothing won just yet.
