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The Rosetta module lands.....

Started by Mozart31 REPLIES370 VIEWS· 12 Nov 2014, 18:53
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2014, 18:53
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12 Nov 2014, 18:53#1

....on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. A wonderful first for the European Space Agency. It's reported that RooiAAS is happy to have a drink with First Admission, Chabal, DA and my good self on 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko whenever it's convenient for us. He has been on Cloud 9 er 67 for some time.

 

I bet there are guys at NASA gnashing their teeth....no pun intended.

BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
12 Nov 2014, 19:36
#2
12 Nov 2014, 19:36#2

What a proud performance by ESA . A little more than a year ago we thought NASA was right on the ball when they landed a rover on Mars on the foothills of a mountain within a landing ellipse of about 4 x 8 km.

Today ESA landed a probe on a comet about 500 million kilometres from earth and will a n a l y s e not only the surface and interior, but also the gasses and particles ejected by the comet as it passes the sun. A formidable achievement.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2014, 20:17
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12 Nov 2014, 20:17#3

Yes Blikkies this is really science fiction staff. I watched Deep Impact again recently where a module is landed on a comet. Really a fine adult movie for the most part, if a touch sentimental. Completing a landing ten years later, by remote control is a more stunning accomplishment. What man could have been if we weren't distracted by our baser emotions! Here are some of the major mile stones and the time line.

 

  • March 2004 Launch
  • April 2004 Instrument Checkout & Comet LINEAR
  • March 2005 Earth 1 Gravity Assist
  • July 2005: Deep Impact Observation  
  • Feb 2007: Mars Gravity Assist
  • Nov 2007 Earth 2 Gravity Assist
  • Sept 2008 Asteroid Steins Flyby
  • Nov 2009 Earth 3 Gravity Assist
  • July 2010 Asteroid Lutetia Flyby
  • July 2011 Aphelion/Enter Hibernation
  • Jan 2014 Exit Hibernation
  • May 2014 Rendezvous with Comet C-G
  • Aug 2014 Start Global Mapping of Comet C-G
  • DB
    DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
    12 Nov 2014, 20:30
    #4
    12 Nov 2014, 20:30#4
     Moz, you left out some of the earlier ones. 1902 Wright Bro's1969 MoonlandingSomewhere later wheels on luguageIf it wasn't for the Dark Ages mankind could have been a bit further along. Some people complain about the huge amounts of resources wasted on space exploration without any real benefit to mankind,  but with that outlook, there would only have been Indians in the US and kangaroos in Aus. NZ  would still be without rugby and the Poms would have been kings of their hill.
    SH
    Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
    12 Nov 2014, 20:51
    #5
    12 Nov 2014, 20:51#5
    So does this mean that if we ever have a comet en-route to earth looking likely to cause another mass extinction we can plug a giant nuclear bomb into it and blow it to smithereens ? Awesome !
    BL
    BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
    12 Nov 2014, 21:34
    #6
    12 Nov 2014, 21:34#6

     "So does this mean that if we ever have a comet en-route to earth looking likely to cause another mass extinction we can plug a giant nuclear bomb into it and blow it to smithereens ? Awesome ! "


    Yes they can blast it with a nuke, but they will never do this because the fragments may do more harm.

    Provided there is enough time (1 year?), it will be a smarter idea to launch a bulky rocket and put it into orbit around the comet. This will drain a very small amount of energy from the comet and by having a asymmetrical orbit one can change its trajectory. You need only a 1 degree change in direction and the intact comet will pass harmlessly. 

    BE
    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    12 Nov 2014, 22:30
    #7
    12 Nov 2014, 22:30#7
     Quite right Blikkies I think sharkies suggestion would spell disaster. Sharky was been watching too many Hollywood movies for the masses.
    MO
    MozartCaptain49,914 posts
    12 Nov 2014, 22:35
    #8
    12 Nov 2014, 22:35#8
    Good stuff Blikkies.  
    WA
    WardadPro6,663 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 00:14
    #9
    13 Nov 2014, 00:14#9
     Like science blikkies has nailed it !If it werent for the destruction of things like the Great Library at Alexandria and the Dark Ages we may well be colonizing other planets , low gravity Rugby ......awesome !Lumpen guys like me could run around like sea-gulling backs !
    SH
    Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 05:24
    #10
    13 Nov 2014, 05:24#10
    Blikkies, that sounds incredibly boring. I prefer the nuke. I reject your reality and substitute it with my own
    MO
    moolaaPro2,380 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 06:03
    #11
    13 Nov 2014, 06:03#11
     Impressive stuff Blikkies. You sound far too intelligent for this site......
    CL
    CleanCutPro9,905 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 07:52
    #12
    13 Nov 2014, 07:52#12
     
    Amazing stuff this. Never thought it possible.

    According to what I've heard the module hasn't been able to anchor itself. Would that mean it could slip off?

    Either way this is amazing. Who would have thought man would take such giants steps in only a 100 years. From testing our wings to exploring space with feats like this.

    I wonder what's next?
    DA
    Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 07:56
    #13
    13 Nov 2014, 07:56#13

    What a major achievement

     

    I have been watching this very closely since they first mentioned their concerns that the rockets may malfunction and  not ignite to counter the effect of the harpoons being fired to secure themselves to the comet.

     

    History has been made again

     

     

    BI
    biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 08:11
    #14
    13 Nov 2014, 08:11#14
    You think they might find Aliens?  
    PA
    PakieCaptain17,321 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 08:20
    #15
    13 Nov 2014, 08:20#15
    Yes yes, but how far has science come in solving the greasy ball issue?
    CL
    CleanCutPro9,905 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 08:26
    #16
    13 Nov 2014, 08:26#16
     
    Maybe we could requisition one of them to play scrummie for us.

    One with suckers on the tips of the fingers ...  to help with the greasy ball issue.



    BI
    biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 08:31
    #17
    13 Nov 2014, 08:31#17

    Well if we don't find an Alien with suckers, maybe a toilet plunger will work

    BL
    BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 10:59
    #18
    13 Nov 2014, 10:59#18

     

    According to what I've heard the module hasn't been able to anchor itself. Would that mean it could slip off? Clean Cut


    I have been watching this very closely since they first mentioned their concerns that the rockets may malfunction and not ignite to counter the effect of the harpoons being fired to secure themselves to the comet. Devils Advocate


    Yes, CC it can drift away (slip off) but I recall them saying that there is a spinning wheel on board, but that was turned off during the landing. I think they should be able to use this spinning wheel (which is nothing more than a gyroscope) to get them back onto the surface of the comet and hopefully fire those harpoons again to anchor it onto the surface. Lets hold thumbs.

    Gyroscopes are wonderful devices which produce a force in a certain direction and this is found in nature (e.g. racing bikes do not tip over during tight corners because the gyroscope effect from the wheels prevent the bike from falling onto the ground) and a multitude of industrial applications like in auto pilots or even at the ISS (Int. Space Station) to change its orientation to avoid space debris or get into the proper configuration to receive other space vehicles.



    CL
    CleanCutPro9,905 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 11:10
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    13 Nov 2014, 11:10#19
     
    Thanks a lot, Blikkies.

    Hope all goes to plan.

    Amazing how often we see thinks in a movie only for it to become a reality years later.

    It's almost like a crystal ball to what lies ahead.


    BO
    bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 11:20
    #20
    13 Nov 2014, 11:20#20
     CC, that's your best idea to date.......... sure beats your, 'hoping the Bokke will lose cos I don't like Meyer' sulk..... suck it up , he's the boss at least until the end of the RWC   . But I like the alien scrumhalf solution, preferably black, which will help Meyer with his other dilemma, & with em suction tipped fingers of course .
    RO
    RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 11:22
    #21
    13 Nov 2014, 11:22#21
    "Amazing how often we see thinks in a movie only for it to become a reality years later."

    That's a bit worrying considering the proliferation of zombie movies over the last few years.
    RO
    RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 11:27
    #22
    13 Nov 2014, 11:27#22
    I hope these suction tipped fingers can be switched off at the time the alien scrumhalf wants to pass the ball.
    CL
    CleanCutPro9,905 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 11:42
    #23
    13 Nov 2014, 11:42#23
     
    Look on the bright side ... at least he won't be kicking possession away.


    DA
    Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 11:55
    #24
    13 Nov 2014, 11:55#24

    Some food for thought, since it has been brought up

     

    Here are some inventions which were later produced after being written about or displayed in either book form or movies

     

    Pretty in Pink Computer ? Instant Messaging

     

    Star Trek Replicator ? 3D Printers

     

    Star Trek PADD ? iPad

     

    Star Trek Virtual Display Device ? Google Glass

     

    Star Trek Medical Tricorder ? Scanadu Scout

     

    Star Trek Communicator ? Flip Phones 

     

    Ender’s Game Antigravity Battle Room ? Indoor Skydiving

     

    Star Wars Speeder Bike ? Hoverbike

     

    Minority Report Heads-Up Displays ? Air Touch Technology

     

    Minority Report Targeted Advertising ? Face-Scanning Marketing Technology

     

    Looking Backward Credit Cards ? ATM and Credit Cards

     

    Fahrenheit 451 Seashell Radio ? In-Ear Headphones

     

    From the Earth to the Moon Splashdown Capsules ? Lunar Module

     

    Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea Electric Submarine ? Diesel-Electric Submarines

     

    In The Year 2889 Atmospheric Advertising ? Skywriting

     

    The War of the Worlds Heat-Ray ? Active Denial System

     

    Iron Man Armor ? Tactical Assault Light Operator Suit (TALOS)

     

    The Jetsons Robot Maid ? Mahru-Z

     

    The Jetsons Robot Vacuum ? Roomba

     

    The Jetsons Food Machine ? Online Ordering Hubs

     

    The Jetsons Sleek TVs ? Flatscreen TVs

     

    The Jetsons Tanning Lamp ? Tanning Beds

     

    The Jetsons Dog Treadmill ? DogTread

     

    2001: A Space Odyssey Phone Booth ? Video Calls

     

    2001: A Space Odyssey Mission Robot ? NASA Canadarm

     

    Demolition Man Sexytimes ? Oculus Rift Porn

     

    Back to the Future Power Laces ? Self-Tying Laces

     

    Back to the Future Hoverboard ? HUVr Board

     

    Visit to the World’s Fair of 2014” Cordless Appliances ? Wireless Things

     

    Visit to the World’s Fair 2014” Kitchen Gadgets ? Instant Coffee Makers

     

    Visit to the World’s Fair 2014” Mars Exploration ? Curiosity Rover

     

    Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory Pneumatic Tube ? Vacuum Elevators

     

    Others are:

     

    Atomic Bomb

    Escalators

    Automatic Doors

    Radar

    E-Books

    Plastic eating bacteria

    Spray on clothes

    Driverless Cars

    Tanks

    BL
    bluebokPro3,977 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 16:04
    #25
    13 Nov 2014, 16:04#25
    Some interesting stuff DA. A good read! Actually, a very good thread! Nice one Moz!!
    SH
    Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 16:20
    #26
    13 Nov 2014, 16:20#26
    What I think they should do is climb in the space shuttle and send an astronaut with a slightly modified nail gun to secure R2-D2 (the new name for the module) to the surface of Nexus-5 (which is the name I have decided I like for this particular comet).

    While the astronaut is up there and busy, perhaps they can bore a hole wide enough to accommodate a nuke....just in case....


    DA
    Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 16:42
    #27
    13 Nov 2014, 16:42#27
    Lmao  Sharky54 
    MO
    MozartCaptain49,914 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 17:31
    #28
    13 Nov 2014, 17:31#28
     TWITCHY I wouldn't want your finger on the Nuclear Trigger Sharky.
    Whatever our next act is....it's not going to be getting live to the nearest star system, Alpha Centauri.
    If we travel at the fastest plausible speed....Ion propulsion ( akin to a space jet) it takes 81000 years. If we travel at the fastest speed ever achieved by a space craft,  sling shotting off the sun....it's 19000 years.
    What about Nuclear you ask. Well theoretically riding an atomic bomb we could get there, a bit fried, in 85 years....assuming we can figure out all the surrounding complexities.
    It's easy to see why the Producers of Star Trek invented technology that gave us Warp speed ie multiples of light speed.
    Still at Warp 10 ( ten times light speed the fastest Enterprise can go with Scotty working his magic) it would still take almost half a year to get to Centauri....not nearly soon enough to see off those pesky Klingons.
    SH
    Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 18:12
    #29
    13 Nov 2014, 18:12#29
    We have to learn how to fold the universe....that's the secret....easy peasy - turn on the warp boosters, some sparkly stuff appears and ones craft is propelled through a space/time wormhole.

    We'll be drinking Atomic cocktails, eating organically engineered space food and wearing brightly colored skin tight clothing before we know it. Actually sounds perfect for WP supporters....

    Come on Moz....get with the program here.
    MO
    MozartCaptain49,914 posts
    13 Nov 2014, 23:48
    #30
    13 Nov 2014, 23:48#30
     c'mon Sharkie, those worm holes always seem to collapse right when you are in them. I had the same concern about the Chimney in the Cango Caves.

    Realistically if there is any life in our universe and it's not beneath the frozen seas of Jupiters moons....we are effectively sealed off from that life by vast distances. Best we could do is pick up a transmission that has been traveling to us for years. 

    There aren't going to be any little green men.
    WA
    WardadPro6,663 posts
    14 Nov 2014, 02:39
    #31
    14 Nov 2014, 02:39#31
     Mozart , there was a project to build an atomic powered ship during the cold war [ small nukes  pushing a special base plate .] ,plus relativity means that if we can get to 1 tenth the speed of light we may well be able to make it in a generational ship .DA there was an actual working Tri-corder made a while ago that was being used by meteorologists  I think ? They called it a tri-corder too as an homage to Star -Trek .
    MO
    MozartCaptain49,914 posts
    14 Nov 2014, 03:15
    #32
    14 Nov 2014, 03:15#32
    Forty five years on a space ship....you'd have to lay in quite a few cases of single malt.
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