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The rugby legacy of Piet Spiere

Started by clevermike13 REPLIES1,165 VIEWS· 05 Mar 2019, 02:27
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Mar 2019, 02:27
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05 Mar 2019, 02:27#1

The great Piet Spiere was at his prime probably the strongest and best prop to ever play for the Springboks - so what happened to his descendants.


He has three grandsons varying on the family tradition of paying rugby.   The three includes -


*   the great Pieter-Steph du Toit rate worldwide as one of the best rugby players at present;

*   Another grandson who is with the WP rugby set up and play as a loosie;

*   a grandson playing for Maties in the Varsity Cup


I know we have the anti-Du Toit false chorus on site making utter fools of themselves - but can only pity them because I am sure only Silly Billy and Pakie can be stupid and Mozart is just misled by his own prejudice.


However, the reason for this posting is that I saw the Maties Varsity Cup game  last night and saw threewo outstanding players contributing to the huge win of the Maties against the Pukke - the only team who lost no matches thus far in the series    There were three hugely impressive players in that game, namely -


*   a flyhalf by the name of Jordan Chait- watch out for that guy in future;

*   a center by the name of Smit; and

*   the younger brother of Pieter-Steph du Toit playing at full back


We al now that Varsity Cup players make their provinces almost immediately after showing themselves up in the Varsity Cup and those three are really impressive.


So I gave you the three names - so start with the denigration campaign asap.                

  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Mar 2019, 02:37
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05 Mar 2019, 02:37#2

You are too immature to have an honest adult discussion about Steph. You spat your dummy out when I noted his missed tackles and porous line integrity against New Zealand, only for me to post the video. Only one half was enough to debunk you. Yet you never learn. Whenever you hear something you don't like you cry "hater". You sound like a 13 year old gender fluid Xe who h as just discovered they are persecuted by the system and need a Stalin in their life. Maybe you're better suited to Tumblr. 

I know what I should do. I should bottle up the tears of the ghastly trio and sell it as an oestrogen supplement. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Mar 2019, 03:35
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05 Mar 2019, 03:35#3
Actually while Spiere was a great scrummager in his day....he wasn't a particularly distinguished player outside of that. Fanie Kuhn was more active in general play.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Mar 2019, 04:50
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05 Mar 2019, 04:50#4

 Silly Billy at his most childlike and immature manner possible,   Thus guy is feeling persecuted and that is causing him to have shit flowing like lava from his mouth every time he opens it,

Lets get this straight for the final time - to debunk anything means that the person responsible must use facts and if there is one thing you are totally incapable of it is usage of facts,

So lets face the unfortunate situation - Silly Billy is a juvenile with a deranged and imbecilic approach to rugby discussions.     

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
05 Mar 2019, 09:06
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05 Mar 2019, 09:06#5

When I read the headline, my automatic suspicion was that Clevermike made another spelling gaffe.

In my mind, it read The rugby legacy of Pierre Spies


I almost passed out!

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Mar 2019, 09:10
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05 Mar 2019, 09:10#6

I though exactly the same thing. Curiosity got the best of me. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Mar 2019, 10:36
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05 Mar 2019, 10:36#7

So Chippo you are to young to know about Piet Spiere - the famous Springbok prop f the late 1950's and early 1960's.   His nickname was "Spiere" and his surname Du Toit,  Hope you recovered from the shock. LOL  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Mar 2019, 17:13
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05 Mar 2019, 17:13#8
Spiere 6' 1'', 209 lbs.......things have changed.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Mar 2019, 17:55
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05 Mar 2019, 17:55#9
95kg tighthead prop wow as you say things have changed somewhat Frik du Preez was only 1.89m and 105kg and played most of his rugby at lock did he not?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Mar 2019, 18:54
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05 Mar 2019, 18:54#10

In the 1938  rugby team there was a lock regarded as a giant by the NZ commentates  as a giant 0 g was 6'1" tall.   Going back further in history I went to the armaments museum in Graz, Austria.   The breast plates would nowadays fit a 14 year old boy or even younger,

Better nutrition and medical care added to people getting bigger an d the 20th century gave even further impetus to growth of people.=  the Piet Spiere grandsons are  typical examples of what is going on.

However - as much as physicality has changed so much the game has changed .  Clever players with ball sense do better than "giants"  without any sense.        . 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Mar 2019, 19:51
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05 Mar 2019, 19:51#11

Nutrition is not what it used to be. The nutritional value organic food today is markedly lower than a hundred years ago. GMO is even less then that. Pharmaceutical drugs are highly disruptive to the human body. Male growth hormones are in decline. Average height and size of men fluctuated throughout history. For instance, the Brits became taller after the Romans intermingled with them. Men were stronger further back in time. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Mar 2019, 21:01
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05 Mar 2019, 21:01#12
Fanie Kuhn the loosehead was 5' 10" and 220lbs. Lifting wasn't allowed in those days and a damn good thing too!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Mar 2019, 22:15
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05 Mar 2019, 22:15#13
Geez the line outs where a joke and a mess back then. Players literally stood on top of one another - there was no gap between the sides. The hooker or wing threw in and everyone jumped
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2019, 01:23
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06 Mar 2019, 01:23#14

Silly Billy

Four statements and each one of the four showed total idiocy.  

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