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The Sharks Contract List for now & Beyond (including the Sharkbok recommendations)

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
02 Oct 2014, 05:08
#1
02 Oct 2014, 05:08#1
Lambie commits to Sharks
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Pat Lambie during last year's Currie Cup

Pat Lambie is one of a host of players to have signed new three-year deals with the Sharks that will keep them in Durban until the end of 2017.

Following the departure of Jake White as director of rugby, the Sharks have moved to commit some of their best young players to long-term deals, with Springbok flyhalf Lambie leading the way.

Youngsters like Thomas du Toit, André Esterhuizen, Cameron Wright, S’bura Sithole and Stephan Lewies have also signed contracts to remain in Durban for the next three years. Du Toit and Esterhuizen were involved in the Junior Springboks’ Junior World Championship campaign earlier this year, while Du Toit featured during the Sharks' Super Rugby campaign.

Lambie's decision will be greeted with a collective sigh of relief in Durban, where the former Michaelhouse boy has made quite a name for himself. Lambie starred in the Sharks' Currie Cup final win over Western Province in 2010, before being named SA Young Player of the Year the following season.

His participation in this year's Super Rugby tournament was cut short by a bicep injury, but he played a key role in the Springboks' defeat of Australia at the weekend, where he scored a try and a drop goal after replacing Handré Pollard with a quarter of the match remaining.

A number of Springboks are contracted with the Sharks until the conclusion of the World Cup next season, but CEO John Smit is hoping to open talks with these parties in the near future.

'We haven’t started further contract negotiations with such players just yet,' said Smit. 'Obviously a number of those individuals will be involved in the World Cup, but I’m hoping to begin talks early next year to discuss their playing future beyond 2015.

'We’re always looking to bolster our squad where necessary, but generally I think we have assembled a very strong squad.'

Players contracted until 2017 – Pat Lambie, Thomas du Toit, André Esterhuizen, Cameron Wright, S’bura Sithole, Stephan Lewies.

Players contracted until 2016 – Dale Chadwick, Matt Stevens, Monde Hadebe, Wiehan Hay, JC Astle, Khaya Majola, Conrad Hoffman, Heimar Williams, Lionel Cronjé, Paul Jordaan, Tyler Fisher, Tim Swiel.

Players contracted until 2015 – Tendai Mtawarira, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Marcell Coetzee, Ryan Kankowski, Willem Alberts, Cobus Reinach, Frans Steyn, JP Pietersen, Lwazi Mvovo, Tera Mtembu, Lourens Adriaanse, Kyle Cooper, Marco Wentzel , Etienne Oosthuizen, Johan Meyer, Fred Zeilinga, Odwa Ndungane, SP Marais.

Photo: Sabelo Mngoma/BackpagePix

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
02 Oct 2014, 05:10
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02 Oct 2014, 05:10#2
Good stuff- Pat Lambie, Thomas du Toit, André Esterhuizen, S’bura Sithole, Stephan Lewies.
The ones that are crossed off, I would recommend that they are disposed off asap.

Players contracted until 2016 – Dale Chadwick, Matt Stevens, Monde Hadebe, Wiehan Hay, JC Astle, Khaya Majola, Conrad Hoffman, Heimar Williams, Lionel Cronjé, Paul Jordaan, Tyler Fisher, Tim Swiel.

Players contracted until 2015 – Tendai Mtawarira, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Marcell Coetzee, Ryan Kankowski, Willem Alberts, Cobus Reinach, Frans Steyn, JP Pietersen, Tera Mtembu, Mvovo Lourens Adriaanse, Kyle Cooper, Marco Wentzel , Etienne Oosthuizen, Johan Meyer, Fred Zeilinga, Odwa Ndungane, SP Marais.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
02 Oct 2014, 05:12
#3
02 Oct 2014, 05:12#3
For those that I do not know they are, I give the benefit of the doubt. I does look affirmative action is pushing for some players without any brand name from junior level
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Oct 2014, 06:03
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02 Oct 2014, 06:03#4
 I thinkjk the following player contracts will not eb renewed:-
Players contracted until 2015 

Jannie du Plessis, Willem Alberts, Frans Steyn,  Lourens Adriaanse,  Marco Wentzel,  Odwa Ndungane   
If the above contracts are to be renewed it wold beon a year to year basis - but that is extremely unlikely.   Most of the players will be way too old to be realistic contratees and I doubt whether without Jake White be involved Francois Steyn would be contracted again.  
Players contracted until 2016 

Matt Stevens,  Heimar Williams
I timk that Stevens will be too old and Williams have not been up to standatd.
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
03 Oct 2014, 16:17
#5
03 Oct 2014, 16:17#5
Hiemaar Williams is a total waist of space. I have never seen so many skip passes from a flyhalf when he plays inside centre, he is not even up to curry cup standard. 
Matt Stevens looks like a cross between Jaba the Hutt and a Moray Eel. I doubt he is fit enough to be anything more than a waist of space. 
A replacement is needed for Jannie. He is just not good enough, other than occasionally being  a good scrummager.  
Frans Steyn is finished. His knee is bound to get worse and with that he will get more unfit. 
More depth is needed at tighhead. An enforcer lock is needed. Backrow is still pretty good, but some more pace is needed. 
Flyhalf is decent, but Swiel is playing at 15 more now days. Zinger Burger has gone of the boil. 
Scrum half is decent, but a back is required not that Charl Mccloed is gone.
Centres are ok, but not sure if their is a genuine playmaker that can be selected as a a 12.   More depth is needed. 
Fullback is ok with Swiel at 15, but need 
Wings are ok. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2014, 16:32
#6
03 Oct 2014, 16:32#6

Wow you should maybe catch a wake up and start watching the Sharks for a change for if you had watched the last two games you certainly would not be saying that about Ettienne Oosthuizen.........or failing which go check the comments about the player on the Sharksworld website.

 

Crossing SP Marais out is also pretty short sighted......but your biggest fuck up is the name Mtembu.......you should be shot  

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
03 Oct 2014, 16:36
#7
03 Oct 2014, 16:36#7
Mtembu was crossed off in error.SP marais is crap. 
AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
03 Oct 2014, 20:44
#8
03 Oct 2014, 20:44#8
 Agree with everyone you've crossed off except Ettiene Oostuhuizen, Marais and possibly Adriaanse?

How I'd love to see the old frans steyn play again :/ I don't think he's that bad now, just not the complete player he was a few years back
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Oct 2014, 21:04
#9
03 Oct 2014, 21:04#9
 Problem is that over the last two wekends against the Kings and the Lions the Sharks backline was functioning very well - even thoug Jordaan was late-tackled after just over 7 minutes on the field - and towo excellent line breaks.   If he was on the chances are that the Sharks would even have a bigger advantage in the backline than they actually had.  
I don't think that Steyn would fit into that backline without detrimental impact  -  Andre Esterhuizen  - despite a yellow card tonight - is a much better proposition at 12.  
AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
03 Oct 2014, 21:24
#10
03 Oct 2014, 21:24#10
 Yeah I don't disagree Mike, amazing how injuries can completely wreck a career. I haven't had a chance to watch too much sharks in the CC, how has Swiel been playing?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Oct 2014, 21:39
#11
03 Oct 2014, 21:39#11
 APD
The last two games he was excellent - no problems at all.   The way he off-loaded balls in contact situation was extremely good.   I agree with you about Steyn beeing ruined by injury -- and a fair amount of over-eating I must add.
There is something  I still do not understand.   Five weeks ago the Sharks played the Pumas and Esterhuizen was picked at no 7 - the whole backline was botched (constant kicking and no backline attacking play)  and they lost the game.   The next week they played the Griquas - same story.   The week after that against the Cheetahs they left out  Jordaan and the backline was also problematic.   They drew that game. 
Over the past two games they played a running game as against a kicking game previously.   Their whole style of play changed over the last two weeks - is that becauase Jake White is n ot involved anymore?  
AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
03 Oct 2014, 22:17
#12
03 Oct 2014, 22:17#12
 Good to hear Mike, very talented kid is Tim. And I do hope we move towards a more running game now, I believe we have the players suited for it. The main one being Paul Jordaan, who i am a big fan of. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
03 Oct 2014, 23:44
#13
03 Oct 2014, 23:44#13
I cant understand why Tim Swiel is not being started at 10 or 15. John Mitchell would jump at the opportunity to develop a player like this.

AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
03 Oct 2014, 23:56
#14
03 Oct 2014, 23:56#14
I would love Mitchell to get the job, can you imagine him moulding youngster like Swiel, Jordaan and Esterhuizen. Plus players like Reinach and Lambie would benefit too. Good for the sharks and good for the Boks.
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