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The Sharks Lions game will start answering some questions.

Started by generaltit8 REPLIES189 VIEWS· 10 Apr 2014, 10:42
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
10 Apr 2014, 10:42
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10 Apr 2014, 10:42#1

The Sharks are going to be put to the test against the Lions who have shown a big improvement and have lifted their game to another level…Ackerman seems to be doing the right things…despite their mediocre performance and substantial loss to the Crusaders last game…no tries by either side in the first half but the Crusaders came back with 3 in the second half to win comfortably.

 

The question is…are the Crusaders getting better as the tournament moves along as they had tended to do in the past or has the resurgence of the Lions merely been a flash in the pan with Marnitz Boshoff being a dead-eye sharp shooting point scorer that failed uncharacteristically in the last game? Well these questions might well be answered on Saturday or at least shed some light on the bona fide strengths the Sharks have shown in their home games.

 

So far the Sharks have had it good but the acid test will come when the Sharks start packing their traveling bags to play away, most definitely when they leave SA shores to Oz and NZ.

 

Of all the SA sides, the Sharks travel best on record but have they really been put to the test??


The Bulls away game in my opinion was a dodgy test because when you lose your key no 10 and 9 in one foul swoop obviously impairs you…rather like walking into a boxing ring with one hand tied behind your back…not quite (don’t mean any disrespect for the Bulls) but still a great handicap…any fair minded person will agree in this context.

 

The other interesting game will be Cheetahs against the Crusaders…this too will shed further light on the above question and also on the condition of the Cheetahs game. Could the Cheetahs start turning around or are the Crusaders better than what their critics say?


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Apr 2014, 14:22
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10 Apr 2014, 14:22#2
 
The Deerhunter ... an awesome movie.

I think we can expect a much improved Lions side this weekend.

The two contests that I'm particularly interested in is the one between Minnie and Coetzee as well as Boshoff and Zelinga.

I agree ... this is going to answer quite a few important questions. Especially for the Lions.
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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
10 Apr 2014, 14:36
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10 Apr 2014, 14:36#3
 The Sharks are a better team. There is not a combination on the park where the Lions are better but that means nothing when they get on the field. I remember the Sharks dropping a crucial game to the Lions (in 2012 I think) at Ellis Park when it counted and ultimately cost us a proper shot at the trophy. We were never gona beat the Chiefs in Hamilton after the travel we had to endure.
Lions seem to lift against the SA sides and they will be wanting to prove to their fans that last week was not the trend for the rest of the season. For them, this is the game that will define their season as much as it is for us. They lose this game and I have a feeling they will go on to lose a lot more. They need this game to show they are the real deal as right now, everyone is surprised by them but still thinking, "come on, its only the Lions..They getting lucky!" If they win this game against the log leaders, they will be taken seriously.
Having said that, the Sharks will want it just as much. Fresh off a bye and plenty competition for places in that team. Guys need to play well and take their chances every week. They dropped a game against the Bulls because they went away from what has been working for them this year and it cost us. Also, the Bulls were fired up! We were flat! Didnt help losing our 9 10 combo early on. 
I think the Sharks should win but im nervous..Always am though as every team in this compo is dangerous especially at home! Sbu Sithole needs a big game. Have not seen him add too much as yet and Jordaan is back in the mix now!
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Apr 2014, 15:07
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10 Apr 2014, 15:07#4
 
Of course ... we have a team of nobodies ... against the Bok front row .. an assortment of Boks spread right across the starting 15, so the odds of taking you guys out is highly unlikely.

Doesn't mean we can't upset the applecart though.

I know we've been written off ... the so called "bubble has burst" and all that kinda crap's floating around ... however I'm quietly confident.

For one I reckon we can match you upfront with our scrum and our backrow could present you with a bigger headache than you may anticipate. 

My only concern right now is our line out. We haven't had a decent lineout for a number of seasons now and Franco's absence leaves a great big gaping hole.

You on the other hand Darren have lost PSDT. We'll see how well Alberts does at 4 against us.

Can't wait to see how my boys do against the log leaders.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Apr 2014, 15:20
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10 Apr 2014, 15:20#5
As a Shark supporter I have serious reservations about this game.  I believe an upset is possible - and it worries me.   I have serious about some backline players and some Shark forwards.   
It is especially the Fatso's who are worrying me.  
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Apr 2014, 15:39
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10 Apr 2014, 15:39#6
 
Jy sal gebliksem word, boeta!!!

Hoor jy vir my??


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generaltitPro3,164 posts
10 Apr 2014, 16:16
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10 Apr 2014, 16:16#7

Yes, indeed these are the type of meetings that make everyone nervous...on both sides but for similar and not so similar reasons...psychologically the paradox is that the underdog is better suited...this happens so often it cannot be ignored or scorned by the cynics.


The Sharks of course man for man are a better side and have several advantages...their biggest is their guru coach who seems to know how to psychologically prepare his sides.


The Lions coach too, appears to being doing something right...the Lions will have "the do or die" attitude and will fling everything they have (an more if possible) at an old arch enemy cornered in smog town...visiting sides hate playing there I believe, except of course the Boks but that's different being a national issue.


The Cheetahs game will be very interesting too because their positioning is similar and the Crusaders will always come back...the poor old Stormers as they stand will need some form of a miracle to get back on track...a bye this week end and then the Cheetahs @ Newlands but I cannot see it...I don't think Smal will make any difference.


The Stormers are in the panic mode...the most debilitating enemy of all...the more losses the worst the condition becomes...it's more of a mindset...sure they've lost key players but so have most teams...the problem is psychological.


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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
10 Apr 2014, 16:31
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10 Apr 2014, 16:31#8
i kind of seen it the same way i see the force who are also getting the same kind of press both from the professionals and die hard armcahir experts like ourselves.

i wouldnt say the sharks are man for man a better team,,,
on a form basis, mapoe, whittley, de klerk and boshoff poo all over their sharks counterparts, and even if lambie and reinach were available, my opinon would still stay the same.

the biggest thing the lions have against them is, nobody considers them easybeats, the upset wins they accumulated early on has every team going into battle with them at red alert.
this makes it a lot harder for any surprise underdog edge, cos compacency is simply not an issue.

this theory oif mine is very applicable to the western force as well, who are normally bottom of the ladder easy beats, but so far in 2014 have had some real solid games which sees them sitting 5th overall.

hard to look past the sharks, but if anyone can do it, the lions can.
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
10 Apr 2014, 17:06
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10 Apr 2014, 17:06#9

Sas you're right honourable San...sometimes...lol but NZ rugby union budget will have to include the purchase of more cabinets?....hahaha 


"Man for man" is not really what was meant...very seldom will you find any team where this is possible but the Sharks in total certainly have considerably more than an edge over the Lions. Maybe you respect the Lions too much because they prevented the Saders from scoring any tries in the first half?


The Force, Highlanders and maybe the Rebels (with some reservations) could creep or wedge in somewhere...it's a funny game without the "old" Crusader march, even the Chiefs are very vulnerable but imo the most stable and consistent of all...the Sharks don't count yet...they still have to run the gauntlet and baptism of fire.


I'd like to confident but I'm not...the only real confidence I have is in this man Jake...if the Sharks cannot do it with him, they never will...anyway that's just the way I feel or see it.

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