The star crossed Proteas
But once again the total failure is accepted by all who care about nothing more that meeting the ANC color requirements in sport.
Pity, but we will just have to get accustomed to the disappointments I guess.
8Balls BSter - Amla got a four and a six before he went out - ending with 35 runs from 54 balls. That means Amla was betting at less than 3 rpo for most of his time at the crease - at one stage even at less than 2 rpo. Amla's strike rate was in the end 64,81. De Kock's strike rate was much higher - it ended up at 73,61.
If you watch the game you would have seen what was happening all along. You are clueless - the idea is to make singles regularly - Amla did nothing of the sort.
Anuway before you may BS comments on this site -chek the facts = you clueless old BSter
Amla looed very much like a hare in the headlights. How did you calculate the strike rate dumbo - do you believe Cricinfo is wrong in their calculations BSter? I gave the strike rate provided by cricinfo
One cannot really make excuses for such a feeble attempt at posting a decent and defendable score.
I honestly thought this team, with that batting line up, with Parnell not playing, had the full capacity to win this tournament.
De Kock
Amla
De Villiers
Faf
Miller
Morris
Duminy
Just these guys alone convinced me we had a great shot, especially with a foundation of 116/1.
Boy was I wrong
A total collapse.... of epic proportions
Without a doubt, a choke, no excuses
Well done India, you played phenomenal cricket
Glad I didn't waste my time watching these losers throw it all away ... again.
In the end ... it's not who did what but rather why didn't ANYONE stand up and rally the side to up their game?
They are an embarrassment to South Africa.
One win..... in 19 attempts in all ICC competitions, since the inaugural CT was won by SA
What a shocking and dismal stat
The problem is Beeno
There is always "that" one incident that most refer to, which led to some other collapse, panic or loss in these compos.
We should have had at least 4 - 6 trophies from any of these previous 18 competitions
There can no longer be excuses, it's a mentality.... not sure why, but it is there.
woulda ... coulda ... shoulda ... BUT DIDN'T!!!
Here's the thing Beeno
At the beginning of that chase, not even the Proteas thought they would win that 438 game, of that I have no doubt. Their body language said everything when they left the field after the Aussie innings.
But, they had free reign to "try" and chase it down, (what else could they do, bat out the full 50 overs to get to 300?) and against all odds, they did, winning off that last ball, for what will always be, the greatest ODI of all time.
Maybe that is what they need, or more of it........, free reign to express themselves without the pressure of being dropped or a quota player replacing you, should you fail a few times.
That is not an excuse, this recent display from them was beyond pathetic, and they deserve to come home early, but we need to look at what and why this is constantly happening on every big stage.
I know exactly what I wrote and I did not find it necessary to manufacture my own stats to try and prove anything. A lie remains a lie and is really expected from you - an old w ench who try to manipulate everything.
One solution for him is to get in the gym and build his arms/shoulders a bit. He wouldn't be the first wristy player to bulk up once they got into their 30s.
He needs to play a lot straighter also. The problem for him is that he has never been a power hitter. Meaning he will now be restricted to scoring mainly singles and doubles down the ground, which becomes very predictable and easy to defend against, and to bowl to.
Amla was one of the best we ever produced. There's no debating that.
Mike, you are wrong here
Amla was on 35 off 54 balls when he got dismissed at 17.3 overs, after he had just hit that four, when he went out, for an actual strike rate of 64.81%
At that precise moment when Amla went out, de Kock was on 35 off 51 balls for a strike rate of 68.62.
You cannot say now, that because de Kock played a further 21 balls and ended up on 53 off 72 balls before getting dismissed at 24.2 overs, that he was far superior to Amla because of a now 73.61% strike rate.
From the time that their partnership was broken, the difference is absolutely minimal, and it's a big shame that you rate a 3.81% difference in strike rate to ridicule Amla's contribution.
Whose to say what Alma would have done if he himself had faced those same extra 21 balls that de Kock did.
Did you watch the game at all? Amla was scoring at a rate of between 1,9 and 3 rpo for 90% of the time he was batting. He hit a six and four that took him to a higher strike rate and then went out. Without those two hits he would have been below 3 rpo.
In the meantime De Kock was battling to maintain a run rate of 4 rpo.
Instead of keeping the rate going by taking singles it was just over to De Kock to score runs, Amla was a real problem while he was batting.
But to go from 116/1 to all out at 191 and still 4 overs left to bat is mind blowing.
Is it lack of confidence, skill, outplayed or just a simple case of not selecting the right horses for the course.
In my opinion, this disaster is summed up by CC's comment.
Really Mike
To be selective with Amla's shots, with what he hit, and when he hit it, is seriously pathetic....
And to correct you again.... he did not hit a 6 and a four, then go out
You asked me if I watched this game.....Did you even watch the game at all?
Amla hit a 6 at 14.1 overs
Amla hit a 4 at 14.5 overs
Amla hit a 4 at 17.3 overs
After a no run, then he went out
Let's also look at their efficiency at the crease then, when they were still batting together until Amla went out.
Amla, 35 in 69 minutes.... equates to 50.72%
de Kock, 35 in 69 minutes.... equates to 50.72%
Then Amla goes out........
de Kock, ends up scoring 53 off 97 minutes..... equates to 54.63%
I know it all depends on who gets the strike, but again, these numbers clearly show that there is a minimal difference between the two batsman........ because de Kock's difference of 3.91% here, is from the extra 28 minutes he spent at the crease without Amla..... facing these extra 21 balls that he did.... after Amla had already gone.
Therefore, with Amla being gone, it clearly made no difference to de Kock's game as their difference in strike rates before Amla's departure was also just 3.81% difference.
Stop being so pathetic here Mike, at least give the man his due when he deserves it, that's all I ask
The problem started with Amla. the 14 points he scored in his last two overs at the balls. increased his strike rate from 20 from 51 balls to 34 in 54 balls. The problem is that De Kock did turn over the batting during the innings - Amla did not.
When du Plessis turned up the batting started to look better. De Kock scored 18 runs from 20 balls,
Bollocks Mike
The Proteas were 116/1 after 24 overs with exceptional talent coming in right down the order.
The foundation was set, even if it was a bit slow getting there.
Losing our last 8 wickets for about 50 runs.
That is what cost us the game...... not one player's "slow. ish" scoring.
With your logic, you are now going to berate players who hit 4's and 6's to up their strike rate during any game.
Pedantic and pathetic if you ask me....
Many a batsmen take a little time to get their eye in and when they do their strike rate goes up ... dramatically. It doesn't take much to catch up.
Don't know about you but I'd rather take a little time getting settled than blaze away and lose my wicket in the first over.
Talk about being petty.
I understand Denny
I am not saying it was quick, but I am saying it is pedantic and pathetic for Mike to single out, and blame, one batsman for that loss and saying that he put the pressure on all the other batsman because of his slow pace.
Bollocks
How many international sides at this Champions Trophy would not hesitate in taking 116/1 off 24 overs with all those big hitters in their side.
I would think most captains would jump at that opportunity.


