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The Stormers issues

Started by Mozart16 REPLIES263 VIEWS· 27 Apr 2014, 01:15
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Apr 2014, 01:15
#1
27 Apr 2014, 01:15#1

It  starts in the coaching box....the body language up there would take any team to defeat....and you have to believe it's showing up at half time.

 

Then our front row concedes so many penalties game after game. Kitshoff and Malherbe are being taken to the cleaners week after week. And Deon is a lucky packet of good things, bad lineout throws and penalties.

 

As for the loosies, Kolisi is invisible out there....is he even trying? Vermeulen looks worn out and Carr is adding some value, but making plenty of mistakes.

 

 

The main problem though is a half back. Grant is truly a shadow of his former self and he never was that great. At least for a while he could kick....no more. And his pop gun boot clearing the lines is pathetic.

 

Groom had a terrible game, being stripped on the Cheetahs line and feeding the Cheetahs backs with nice short up and unders. Schreuder then made his usual Captain Calamity contribution......you couldn't win the CC with these half backs, let alone the S15.

 

For the rest De Allende is doing well on the wing, Taute is better but still bog ordinary and Hendriks showed our new man what pace is.

 

Why were we giving the ball back to the Cheetahs when Willie was in his most magical mood, heaven only knows. The tactics are all wrong at the moment. So much so that even the return of Etzebeth and Schalk is unlikely to turn this ship. They are also desperately missing Aplon.

 

But perhaps the most simple thing is.....you can't kick short up and unders and then have no kick chase....it was painful to watch.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Apr 2014, 02:49
#2
27 Apr 2014, 02:49#2
 I agree with you about some of the statements made by you 0 but there are also some real clangers.  
Your idea about kicking is absolute dribble.   The kicking by the Stormers were much more effective than that of the Sharks after Steyn moved to flyhalf.  Kicks should be strategic and long distance kicks which cannot be followed up effectively is BS.   The game of Grant was poor -  but there was not much wrong with the games of Groom and for that matter Schreuder - not top class at all - but very average  and acceptable.
Like always you are cluless about what is the situation with scrum performances.              
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Apr 2014, 02:54
#3
27 Apr 2014, 02:54#3
One, two, three four, five....seven....hahaha. Better focus on your adding Oom and leave the commentary to others.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Apr 2014, 03:04
#4
27 Apr 2014, 03:04#4
Mozart
You really are a funny person.   The Sharks games over the last two weeks showed you that your idea about backline play is so badly outdated that it needs to be described as seriously defective.  
So is your ideas about kicking - kicking should be strategic and not what you describe as effective kicking.    Above everything else the players should h ave ball handling skills and the players you routinely support do not have any,   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Apr 2014, 03:07
#5
27 Apr 2014, 03:07#5
Sure Oom, that's very coherent....hahaha.  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Apr 2014, 15:52
#6
27 Apr 2014, 15:52#6
From what I have heard it is : poor coaching & Injuries. Some people thought that the Stormers had a shot & would at least get to the playoffs.It is a bit late now but look at he Canes now - who would have thought they would be to of NZ conference ? Stormers looked good in patches against the cheetahs so they showed they have some capacity. Get a few players back from injury & you never know.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Apr 2014, 19:24
#7
27 Apr 2014, 19:24#7
It's not injuries....we simply don't have quality half backs. Etzebeth, Schalk and Aplon would make a huge difference but not enough. When Jantjies turned out to be a flop, we turned to Cat and he wasn't really S15 quality. The scrummies are even worse.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Apr 2014, 19:36
#8
28 Apr 2014, 19:36#8
The biggest issue for the Stormers is that their 13 cant tackle............de Jongh is a liability......two tries resulting from this wee man's inability to effect one on one tackles.

de Allende is their best back by some distance and should be played at 13 instead of wasted on the wing.

On the positive side, Taute looks to have rediscovered his mojo, he had a really good game last week and a solid one this week.

Its also good to see that Ruan Botha has found his feet at this level, it was always going to take a few games to settle. Carr is also showing that he has what it takes to play at the highest level, have always rated this lad.

Its complete rubbish that Kitshoff and Malherbe have struggled every week......there have been no issues with the Stormers scrum at all.......go check where they are ranked in the tournament. As the commentators kept saying, the ref was making poor calls penalizing Kitshoff everytime.

Kolisi is not a 7 and therefore cant be expected to shine there.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Apr 2014, 21:15
#9
28 Apr 2014, 21:15#9
 Our half backs are indeed not much to shout about but its mainly a flyhalf issue.Coleman looked more enterprising so perhaps try him although I do not have high hopes.Kolisi is a small man in a big mans world and has very limited skills - he used to show some running abilty and perhaps was another of these loosies whoare really backs. Carr ditto but at least he does contribute. De Jongh is a liability and needs to be tried on the wingKitshoff and Malherbe are suffering in a lightweight flimsy pack picked by a small  man syndrome coach.Agree re the poor calls re Kitshoff one was utterly rediculous.Not so much injuries re the backs but those in the forwards are hugely significant. Moz the Stormers have lost quite few close games. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Apr 2014, 21:23
#10
28 Apr 2014, 21:23#10
 No Beeno, Coleman is an average player, forget him
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Apr 2014, 00:33
#11
29 Apr 2014, 00:33#11
 Coleman may be average but right now Grant is below average.We need to beat the Highlanders next Saturday so lets hope Allistair gets it right.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2014, 01:37
#12
29 Apr 2014, 01:37#12
Taute has rediscovered his mojo....hahahahahaha. When the poor chap collects the ball and decides it's time to have a go, it's like watching bread rising. And so often it's turnover time.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Apr 2014, 01:51
#13
29 Apr 2014, 01:51#13
 Taute - the Mozart pet hate - has been better in recent matches and is showing signs of improvement in performances/
Anybody not noting that must be delirious.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
29 Apr 2014, 01:55
#14
29 Apr 2014, 01:55#14
 Taute did have a very good touch in the try scored by the new Stormers winger. He ran a good supporting line to JDV's break, and showed quick hands to take the pass and draw the player, then quickly releasing his winger. 
His leg still seems to be in some supporting brace. Not sure if he not recovered properly or what.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2014, 02:23
#15
29 Apr 2014, 02:23#15
He passed the ball....huge hype about that. Hell if our backs can't catch and pass the ball we might as well pack it in. Taute has improved but from a catastrophic level....and he was playing the Cheetahs! Just ano ther average to below average S15 player  hyped up the gazoo.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
29 Apr 2014, 04:36
#16
29 Apr 2014, 04:36#16
 The Stormers are held back by all the old timers in the squad starting with #12.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2014, 06:49
#17
29 Apr 2014, 06:49#17
So what other old timers did you have in mind?  
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