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The Ultimate Super Backs

Started by Augenöffner3 REPLIES615 VIEWS· 23 Jul 2018, 15:29
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
23 Jul 2018, 15:29
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23 Jul 2018, 15:29#1

Last week it was the voories, this week it is the show-ponies. With just the playoffs to come, TANK and ZELIM debate which backs were the greatest in Vodacom Super Rugby history!

Zelim Nel

Cutting this list from 100s to 10s, and then to seven required half a bottle of Panado – some incredible talents didn’t make my final cut…

Halfbacks: Fourie du Preez, Dan Carter

Centres: Tana Umaga, Stirling Mortlock

Outside backs: Bryan Habana, Rupeni Caucaunibuca, Joe Roff

Where George Gregan won titles with an all-star cast outside him, Fourie du Preez turned lesser talents into three-time champions.

Andrew Mehrtens and Morne Steyn were points-machines; Stephen Larkham was a genius tactician. Dan Carter was the perfect balance.

For my money, Umaga is as close as you can get to the ultimate back. He was big, quick, agile and skillful, tactically aware and bold without being reckless.

I wouldn’t dig in my pockets if Mortlock was 5c short for a packet of smokes, but there’s no denying his qualities on the pitch. Stirlo played a direct game complemented by some sweet goal-kicking – only three players have scored more points in Super Rugby history.

SA’s greatest finisher, Bryan Habana owns the left-wing position without needing an explanation. The same can’t be said of the bloke on the other end of the line…

Caucau only made 13 appearances in Super Rugby. He scored 15 tries.

Yes, Doug Howlett and Caleb Ralph own the career try-scoring records, but if there was only time for one more play to score the game-winning try, I’d want the ball to go to Rupeni in his prime.

That leaves the fullback position which reads like a Who’s Who of the comp’s most famous names – Israel Folau, Chris Latham, Christian Cullen, Ben Smith, Percy Montgomery, Andrew Walker, Andre Joubert, Matt Burke and Mils Muliaina.

I’ve handed the No 15 jersey to Super Rugby’s best all-rounder, Joe Roff. The thinking man’s fullback, Roff was just as comfortable clicking on his seatbelt for high-speed collisions when the situation called for it.

Tank Lanning

Ahhh, the peacock showponies get their chance to shine. Just remember that while the backs get to decide the margin, it’s the forwards who decide the result!

A real world, play on a Saturday, team is about making the whole greater than the sum of the parts, hence the need to look at combinations. But today we have the opportunity to just look at the parts, and NOT make it work as a whole!

As such, in essence, I have picked players who could be used in a rugby dictionary to define the number on their back. And players who have had the biggest impact on the tournament.

Half backs: Fourie du Preez, Dan Carter

Centres: Conrad Smith, Ma’a Nonu

Outside backs: Bryan Habana, Jonah Lomu, Christian Cullen

The half backs pick themselves, an amazing feat in itself. Both players would be in contention for the “Greatest players to walk the earth” award.

Smith and Nonu are the reason I got into Super Rugby, and became an avid Canes fan. So yes, perhaps I am biased. But Smith was the ultimate in making players outside him shine, and Nonu the ultimate in saying thank you. Magic in motion.

Out wide, Habana defined finishing, Lomu redefined the game of rugby (having moved from flank, something that will have my colleague in raptures), and the Paekakariki Express is the most potent running fullback the game has ever seen.

Close but no cigar: George Gregan, Aaron Smith, Beauden Barrett, Andrew Mehrtens, Tana Umaga, Robbie Fruean, Sonny Bill Williams, Malakai Fekitoa, JP Pietersen, Joe Roff, Nemani Nadolo, Julian Savea, Ben Smith, Andre Joubert

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
23 Jul 2018, 15:43
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23 Jul 2018, 15:43#2

This is a really hard thing to determine. So, I'll list some of the guys I'd definitely have:

02 Marx (ZA) 

04 Botha (ZA) 

05 Eales (Aus) 

06 Burger (ZA) 

07 McCaw (NZ) 

09 Du Preez (ZA) 

10 Carter (NZ) 

11 Habana (ZA) 

12 Horan (AUS) 

13 Mortlock (AUS) 

14 Howlett (NZ) 

15 Latham (AUS) 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jul 2018, 16:11
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23 Jul 2018, 16:11#3
Cullen. Roff. O Driscoll. JdV. Habana. Carter. F du Preez
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
23 Jul 2018, 16:44
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23 Jul 2018, 16:44#4

Here are some interesting stats.

Carter has the most points in Super rugby (1708). I don't really need to say much more about him. Best ever. No disrespect to the others. 

Mortlock is #4 on the list (1036). I think that's amazing because a huge part of that is tries! Mortlock scored 56 tries which is good for #6 of all time. Mortlock is in my mind the greatest 13 ever. I really loved Herbert's combo with Horn. He tortured New Zealand and South Africa. 

Howlett is still the top try scorer in Super rugby history with 59 tries. No doubt about his finishing ability. The guy was lethal. 

Habana is tied with Mortlock with 56 tries. I rate Habana as the most complete wing of all time. Outstanding player that wasn't always appreciated in South Africa. He could tackle, he could field kicks, he could kick from 22 to 22, he could run great support lines, score great tries. I don't think he was ever used to his potential, but what he did was legendary.

He isn't on my list, but Folau is on 55 tries! That's phenomenal. I know he is playing in a poor point in Super rugby, but still, its at a pro level and a great achievement.

Joe Roff is on 57 tries at #3. Phenomenal player.

Christian Cullen is on 56 tries at #4. I loved his all out attack but he was not a well rounded player. Poor defence etc. But if you want all out attack, the guy was absolutely devastating.

I went Lath am because the man was so gifted in all areas, he was tough. He rounded out a pretty great era of Wallaroo rugby. 

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