MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jun 2017, 18:11#1
Rhule has missed the most tackles, Jantjies and Skosan are near the top of the Super 15 tackles missed category. Kriel lost the Japan test with a horrible missed tackles and he isn't any better.....Stepfontein is vulnerable to pace and was used as a doormat by Rohan..
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Without doubt this is the worst defensive backline ever picked by the Springboks
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jun 2017, 20:42#2
Mozart
I would have been ashamed if I were writing the ridiculous junk postings you normally make. Japan should not have been in the game at all - but they were because of all the bugger-ups made by the so-called senior players. to blame only Kriel for the loss is ridiculous.
I do not like the center pairing - but from a defensive as well as attacking point of view it could have been worse if Fat Fransie was at 12. He is useless as a center from all perspectives,
Hope he is only brought in five minutes before the game ends. /
sharkbok
Captain23,233 posts
sharkbokCaptain23,233 posts
08 Jun 2017, 22:11#3
The French will certainly look to run the ball. A new backline combination, many of which have exposed defensively in the past.
Serfontein is the best defender of the lot. I expect Frans Steyn will move to inside-centre during the game with Serfontein shifting to outside centre.
Jessi Kriel would be better at 15, where he has repeatedly said he wants to specialise, and where he currently plays for the Bulls.
If the Boks do get space and run the ball- they do have some elusive runners that are unpredictable. I would like to see what Skosan can do at international level. He seems to have a good step in space and hard to read what he is going to do next.
08 Jun 2017, 22:20#4
Apart from Mbonambi, bench will have a big impact. If things aren't going as planned, expect an early call.
Steyn, Hougaard, PSDT, DuPreez, Kitshoff will bring experience, power and energy. Even Lleyds should be useful in the later stages. He's had a very good Super season.
08 Jun 2017, 23:05#5
Dont worry chaps ,you Saffas still have the good stuff needed to beat the wee froglets .Just get rid of the coaching staff and hire my nephew hes doing a much better job coaching his local juniors than Coetzee and co have done with the Boks thus far ! My nephew even introduced such innovations as his MOTM getting to choose where they go for an after match feed which is light years of any coaching innovations provided by Coetzee and co !Anyways good luck to your boys vs France ,lets hope they give the buggers a damn good SH style thrashing so as to shut up the endless NH crowing about supposedly closing the gap [ that should close the gap 'twixt their wee lips thanks very much !]
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jun 2017, 23:24#6
Probably couldn't afford your nephew WD, Coetzee is so poor he has to be a freebie!
09 Jun 2017, 07:52#7
Nonsense!!! HouGat, Steyn and Leyds do not make a strong bench. They weaken it substantially.
If you had said Jaco Kriel, Shaun Venter, Vorster and Combrinck I would have been in agreement with you, Matey ... but as usual you have no clue.
09 Jun 2017, 09:02#8
Moz I normally think that at international level most coaches can only enhance a team and rarely do any lasting harm .But this Coetzee bloke is an exception to be sure ,would Saffas ever countenance a Kiwi coach ? Your boys seem to have the same attitude to coaches as ours unlike the Aussies who seem to think that its a democracy where every thing the coach says has to be ratified by a majority !
09 Jun 2017, 10:45#9
I have to agree with Mozart, what a poor back three and back row. I do think Coetzee deserve his spot as 15. He has been the only guy who have been performing consistently over the last 4 years. Might not be a bad call with the inside axis of whiteley, cronje and Jantjies. Centers are okay, but what was he thinking of selecting quota Mohoje.
Jean Luke should have started. The kid has been on fire the last 2 seasons.
09 Jun 2017, 12:46#10
A bit of an exaggeration there moz.
Let us not forget the days of Andre Pretorius, Jorrie Muller and co....
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2017, 15:20#11
Veloorius! Gosh that brings a tear to my eye....still if it was a match saving tackle required I would choose Jorrie over Kriel anyday....not saying it's the worst backline, just the worst tackling backline.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jun 2017, 16:23#12
Could have been much worse with Steyn starting
09 Jun 2017, 16:39#13
clevermike
do you suffer from Alzheimers?
Why do you keep repeating the same thing?
WE ALL KNOW YOU DONT LIKE FRANS AND WILLEM ALBERTS!
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2017, 17:10#15
No need to debate.....here are the Super Rugby stats for matches played to date:
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Kriel has made 46 tackles and missed 12.....success percentage 79%
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Step made 43 missed 15 ...74%
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Rhule made 45 missed 38....54%
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.Coetzee made 20 missed 9...69%
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Cronje 27 made missed 14....66%
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Skosan 38 made 21 missed...64%
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Jantjies 72 made 27 missed.....73%
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I rest my case, the worst tackling backline ever.
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
09 Jun 2017, 18:39#16
Ja ja ja Mike. Fat Fransie...blah blah blah. Mozart you support oldies...blah blah blah.
10 Jun 2017, 07:27#17
If mediocrity and below par is what your looking for then well alrighty then ... yoiu have it.
That doesn't do it for me though.
It's the same as saying that Coenie isn't THAT bad a tighthead prop ... he's had two or three good matches this season ... yes he's mostly been very poor ... but not that bad all the time ... so let's include him in a test match. Yes we all know he was ripped a new one the last time round but what the hell ... I'm sure he'll do better this time.
That's the kind of approach we see with regards to Coenie, Beast, Bongi, Lood, Kolisi, Oupa, Jantjies, Kriel, Serfontein, De Allende, HouGat, Malherbe, Paige, Mapoe, ... and and and
It's that exact approach that's brought us down to 7th in the world.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2017, 20:41#18
As expected the backline tackling stats were problematic in some respects. So lets rate the players on the basis of tackles made and missed:-
Coetzee - Turnovers conceded 1 - Made 6 - Missed 0Skosan - 0 1 1Rhule - 3 9 1Kriel - 1 5 2Serfontein - 1 7 2Steyn 1 5 2
I am worried about the issue - especially about Fat Fransie being in the squad. He made no real impression and also gave away a penalty. He was only on the field of play for 27 minutes - but it is clear he was totally our of depth in the game
11 Jun 2017, 08:07#19
Mike. Lets lose the Fat in Frans Steyn. I am also not a fan of the man, but he is clearly not fat anymore.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2017, 08:52#20
bluebook
Is he still weighing 115 kgs? I think he is - so at he remains Fat Fransie - 10 kgs over what he should weigh .
11 Jun 2017, 13:45#21
In 1995 Jonah Lomu weighed 125kgs.
I for one wouldn't mind having a 'fat jonah' in my team.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jun 2017, 16:58#22
Frans is neither fat, nor did he turn over the ball.....stop lying Poofter.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2017, 17:20#23
So ESPN changed the stats when updating them but his defense was putrid. Also gave away a penalty - so Fat Fransie was real BS in this test.
By the way what is the present weight of Steyn. If it is still 115 kgs he deserve the Fat Fransie epithet. Let him just take off his jersey and Fat Fransie's lard will be all over his pants.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jun 2017, 22:30#25
Better having lard all over your pants.......than having tits all over your pants like you Tokkie.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2017, 23:18#26
Dimwit - this is about Fat Fransie - not me. You indeed is an idiot.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jun 2017, 23:21#27
It's just a bit rich when an old Poofter with tits calls a fit young sportsman fat.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2017, 23:26#28
Fat Fransie'a qieoght while playing for the Sharks started off at 118 kgs in 2013. The ideal weight for an athlete of Fransie's height is 105 to 106 kgs and Plumtree asked him to go om a health diet to get him nearer to the ideal weight as listed. Fatso did not comply - but got his weight down to 115 kgs.
Even if he is now down to 110 kgs - he is still fat - only the dimension may be slightly less now - but I doubt whether he is still nor overweight.
Fat he was and fat he still is.
11 Jun 2017, 23:37#29
Mike please reply to my comment
We're the other players over 110kg all fat as well?
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2017, 23:45#30
No - but a backline player of Steyn's height is below that figure. If not they are often enough lacking in pace or have other deficiencies.
12 Jun 2017, 09:20#32
Haaaaaaahahahahahaaa!!
Comrade Mike the Tit.
I like it. Has a nice ring to it.
Maybe I'll just shorten it to "Tit". An apt discription ... wouldn't you say ??
12 Jun 2017, 09:34#33
I'm sorry Mike, just have a look at Steyn in the match. He is not overweight. Its plain to see. Who cares what the different stats on the different sites say? Nobody knows from when those stats are, so basically they are irrelevant. Seriously Mike, just watch the match again, you'll see what I am saying.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jun 2017, 17:25#35
That photo was taken in Durban when he was in Durban = before moving to France. Steyn may have taken a diet to reuce weight = but it did not add to his pace - nor his defense.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jun 2017, 17:25#36
That photo was taken in Durban when he was in Durban = before moving to France. Steyn may have taken a diet to reuce weight = but it did not add to his pace - nor his defense.
12 Jun 2017, 17:56#37
It's a proven fact that age reduces one's strength and pace.
You are aware of that aren't you, Tit?
12 Jun 2017, 18:04#39
Rather focus your attention on your penis pump, Chop!!
GEgeneraltit
Pro3,164 posts
12 Jun 2017, 19:03#40
Prophets of doom and gloom...well done to the team as a whole...well done lads.
One step at a time Springbokke...lots of egg around for the eggmen... your critics...lol
Please note all the eggheads in this clip.. .
https://vimeo.com/21613269
