09 Jun 2019, 11:17#2
Um
Mike
That's bull
Nadal also beat much you get opponents.
Federer beat younger opponents when we won his last Wimbledon crown.
Just because of the semi results you come and talk this tripe.
Look at bigger picture Michael.
The top ranked players are all older players.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2019, 16:53#4
Good point there HasBeen....Fed has been avoiding the French and coming to Wimbledon half baked. He will be a tougher opponent having gone through the French.
Three of the four semi finalists well into their thirties.....one close to forty.
Down goes Ou Tokkie who doesn't even know that surfaces matter. Stick with moz.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2019, 18:16#5
And so 33 year old Rafa Nadal totally crushes 25 year old Dominic Thiem, leaving him threadbare and confused. There certainly are lessons to be learned here:
1 Age has scarcely dimmed the luster of the great triumvirate of Nadal, Federer and the Joker.
2 Champions are mentally tough....Thiem made a supreme effort to win the second set....after which Nadal rattled off 10 straight points, effectively ending the match.....the last two sets at 6/1.
3 Mike's 'gut feeling' is just flatulence.
09 Jun 2019, 20:27#7
They need to change the rules.
A player cannot play on a final after being in a monumentous match less than 24 hours before.
It gives the other player au fair advance rage.
PS. Where is Michael now?
Age beat youth today Uncle Mike.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2019, 20:53#8
Fair point on Thiem being disadvantaged, but Nadal in top physical condition was never going to lose the French.....only Bjorn Borg with 6 French titles at age 25, had a matching early record at Roland Garros.

sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
09 Jun 2019, 21:12#9
There is nothing to be learnt from this except that rigid generalisations based on age cant be made.
Here we have some all-time greats, playing against younger players who frankly will never be remembered in the same breath 20 years from now.
The question is would the older versions of these players, beat the younger versions of themselves? Who is better the 27-year-old Federer or the 37-year-old Federer..... It is probably the 27-year-old- but even the 37-year-old one is better than pretenders that are just fortunate to have not played him in his prime.
It is all simplistic stuff, because a Springbok rugby great past his prime, is probably better than a younger pretender that is just a place holder until a new great is discovered. A case in example is Duane Vermeulen versus one of the Deysel twins, or some new kid that has had some decent games in Currie Cup, or even Super Rugby.
Older players need to be managed and play less. Not because of age, but more because of wear and tear from all the years in the game. Try playing professional rugby for over 10 years, and it is obvious that more rest is required to recover from matches- - and then peak for the matches that count.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jun 2019, 04:30#12
Hahahaha.....if it isn't the old gut himself......dripping egg as he flows.