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This is part of the New South Africa - Naka Drotske

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Nov 2018, 09:26
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30 Nov 2018, 09:26#1

The following from News24:-


"Former Springbok hooker Naka Drotské has lost "almost a third of his blood" after being shot and injured during a robbery, according to information obtained by News24.

He was allegedly visiting family on a smallholding outside Pretoria on Thursday night when four armed men attacked them.

Netcare Montana Hospital confirmed that Drotské has been admitted there. He is being treated in the intensive care unit.

Captain Kay Makhubele said a family had been sitting in their house around 22:00 on Thursday when they were attacked by three unknown men who pointed firearms at them.

"There was a struggle whereby one of the men was shot at," he said.

Drotske and his business partner Os du Randt had been having a braai at his brother's smallholding in Kameeldrift when armed men stormed in, said the friend, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Shots were apparently also fired at Du Randt but he is believed to have escaped injury.

The friend said he had heard that in the rush to get to hospital, the men were apparently also involved in an accident.

According to News24's information Drotské was shot three times attempting to protect his family from the attackers. His wife is by his side at the hospital.

He has already been operated on but needs to be stabilised before another operation on an injured arm can be performed.

Drotské played 26 tests for the Springboks and was a member of the Rugby World Cup winning team in 1995.

Makhubele said they were investigating cases of attempted murder and attempted robbery.

No arrests had yet been made.

He said anyone with information should contact the police.'

Lets hope and pray Drotske survives the attack.   One cannot have a braai on a farm without being attacked and fired on by robbers .  


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
30 Nov 2018, 09:40
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30 Nov 2018, 09:40#2

I will refrain from commenting on SA itself, as it would be severe. I hope Naka makes a full recovery. Of course, the psychological scars of such an experience are harder to move on from. I have an uncle who had a gun put to his head, fortunately it jammed. Unfortunately for my grandmother's best friend, the gun that killed her didn't. An old woman, beaten and gunned down, for what? Some jewellery? 

An act of cowardice by untermenschen cowards. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
30 Nov 2018, 20:09
#3
30 Nov 2018, 20:09#3

Africa is becoming the first post-apocalypse place in the world. Seal the borders and throw away the key 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Dec 2018, 09:02
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03 Dec 2018, 09:02#4

A really brave man to offer his life up for his loved ones.

What would have happened to his family had these bastards gained control of the room?

Rape? Torture? Murder?

Any bets that these bastards were all black?

Well done, Naka ... much respect ...


I was invaded by a dark phantom late last night ... while playing Dark Souls 2 ... he turned out to be from Moscow ... he asked where I was from and so I told him ... he asked me whether I was an Afrikaaner or a black man ... I told him I was a white Afrikaaner ... he then told me that the world knows how the black man has raped and destroyed our country ... and that many Afrikaners have fled the land ... and that those who remain behind are too busy trying to make the black man happy that they've sacrificed their people and their land ... in short ... he called us "losers".

I was a little annoyed at first ... but after awhile I saw that he was right.

The Boer of old has turned into a pussy.

When someone like Naka stands up to these bastards it reminds me of my grandfather ... I wish there were more Naka's around.



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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
03 Dec 2018, 14:18
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03 Dec 2018, 14:18#5

he then told me that the world knows how the black man has raped and destroyed our country ...


He was probably a SA white guy.


Others know that quota people in SA do not have the IQ to produce the technology to rape and plunder SA as it has been.


Leave them one millenium and they will never be able to rip open the belly of the Earth down to 8km to export minerals and get an easy life looting resources generations saved before them.


SA white people, instant gratification, no idea or taste for work.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
03 Dec 2018, 14:19
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03 Dec 2018, 14:19#6

So there was no home invasion in the old SA. Who can believe that, but people who believe in a quota policy in SA rugby.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
03 Dec 2018, 14:32
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03 Dec 2018, 14:32#7
@Traditionalist- South Africa used to a popular tourist destination, as well an attractive place for people overseas to potentially migrate to and live in. 
Not sure if anyone would want to leave their own country to live in SA nowadays. Too dangerous, and the economy is falling apart from corruption.
Perhaps SA should never have been colonised as it was unfair on the indigenous population but as Westerners leave SA, it is falling apart. The population is growing far too quickly for the economy to sustain, and the corruption is beyond belief with an outdated political and economic system that is less advanced than what countries like Greece and Rome had thousands of years ago.
If Westerners are so bad, why not check out some countries in Western Europe, America, Australia etc. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Dec 2018, 16:36
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03 Dec 2018, 16:36#8

Lol yeah the white male.

Truly the enemy of the word.

Truly an oppressive force to other races and to women.

That's why countries built by white males have the strongest history of human rights. 

That's why white dominated countries have the lowest rape rates and in ALL white run countries the most rapes committed are by on-whites.

Tell me again what lessons the blacks and arabs are suopposed to teach us.

Haven't you guys heard, it's white man that taught black man to rape?

It's white man's fault.


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Dec 2018, 08:49
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04 Dec 2018, 08:49#9

White cultures are typically mild tempered towards women and far less inclined towards crime. There is an emotional immaturity amongst black African cultures that leaves them very susceptible to Globalists. They fall for every trick in the book time and time again. Take the Native Americans in the US, they'd be the better tool to attack the white man, but they have too much dignity. There are many people and cultures who have suffered far worse than anything colonialism imposed in Africa, but they choose not to be victims. It's tragic, as these anti-white tools don't know that they are only being given e nough rope to hang themselves. Globalists don't have anything good in store for the white man, they also don't have anything good in store for the black man. Just a means to an end. Every culture is being played like a sap to some degree. The ruling class exacerbate prejudices to maneuver the sheeple and foment change. Ultimately, I don't feel sympathy for the victims of this, as it was narcissism, greed and dishonesty which was the catalyst for their malleability.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Dec 2018, 09:28
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04 Dec 2018, 09:28#10

Aug

Blacks will for ever be exploited. 

It's and shame.

Instead of leaders promoting black social and economic improvement independently from any other race, they always lean on the victim crutch.

It's never a case of "let's focus on ourselves" but rather ALWAYS a case of what can we blame for our failures. 

That mindset will do nothing to promote strong black economic reform.

It's the same mindset that has kept blacks in the US at the bottom of the pile.

It's only now, after sixty years, that we start to see US blacks begin to understand this.

Still, doesn't stop them ignoring the thousands upon thousands of blacks killed by blacks in the US. They'll march against a police officer that shoots a black citizen, often justifiably, but are still too much in the victim mindset to deal with their own issues.

And that's after 60 years in a first world country with the benefit of first world education.

( Edit: having said that. I don't think that blacks in the US have gotten a fair shake from the justice system over the years.

It's a rabbit hole of a legal debate because on the one hand the law should be applied equally and fairly but on the other hand one also has to punish offending communities more harshly so that you remove negative elements from those communites.

In SA whites don't enjoy the legal standing as black citizens and we accept it...despite all our gripes.)

What chance do blacks in SA have in the current socially engineered climate.

None. 

I have serious hope for Ramaphosa. My feeling is that he has a good heart and a positive lab for SA. 

One just hopes that idiots like the EFF and BLF let the man carry out his work.


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Dec 2018, 09:14
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05 Dec 2018, 09:14#11

Well put, Plum.

One has to ask yourself why they favour the "victims crutch" over independent development?

Are they a stupid people? Is that what's hindered their progress through the ages? Let's face it, they are light years behind the rest of the world ... in everything? They are the same today as they were thousands of years ago. Nothing has changed. They are still just as tribalistic. 

What do we have that they don't? Is it a lack of imagination?

Something silly that I noticed awhile back ... a black woman scanning groceries ended up having to punch in a code on one of the items that wouldn't scan. She used her middle finger to do this. It looked totally natural for her to have selected that particular finger. The white man on the other hand would have used his pointer finger.

I know it's silly ... but they are totally different to us. We are worlds apart. 

A simple example ... explorers came to these shores 500 years ago and discovered the various tribes that had fled the wars up north. Going from tribe to tribe they discovered that none of them had double story buildings ... not one ... while we were building things like the Colosseum and Big Ben ... that girls and women were used to carry water in clay jars from the river, a jar at a time ... no aqueducts of any sort ... that their maze crops depended on the rainfall of the season ... that no precautions were taken against pests ... that the simple wheel which had been discovered thousands of years before had some how eluded them ... that the thought of building a cart to drag behind a cow never crossed their minds. 

They were found sleeping on grass mats under cow hides when we arrived and that's a mere 5 hundred years ago.

I ask again ... why do they favour the crutch so ... even to this day ... they would prefer to receive a handout over actually working for something themselves ... and what I find really interesting is that this covers all the black folk across the continent. They are all like minded.

They covet everything we bring ... and yet hate us so ... they want to be like us in every way ... a lighter skin, straight hair etc ... and yet complain about us as they purchase our clothes, our cars, our TV sets, our toothpaste, our toilet paper ... even our hair.

They are a strange envious people ... and I think that l have a better chance at figuring my wife out than I have them.

Bottom line ... there will always be conflict between us ... we don't belong together ... much like leopards and lions ... both from the cat family ... and yet so different. 



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Dec 2018, 12:36
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05 Dec 2018, 12:36#12

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I was listening to what Rupert said last night and the real problems in SA.    He actually ended up being called a racist - because he was talking bluntly about the problems in SA at present.

The result was an all-out attack on Rupert by the normal crooks and on Whites in general by Malema and co.    I get disheartened when a  family - who made huge money overseas and never got a cent from Government and has no Government contracts - is called racist.

Will the Whites ultimately lose everything they have worked for and have to flee the  country when the Lunatics take over?    I have lost hope for the future of the country and if I was young enough still I would have left a country without any future. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Dec 2018, 13:04
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05 Dec 2018, 13:04#13

Here we have another outdated humanistic perspective drag the quality of discussion down. Black cultures were among the first civilization builders. Their fall is where the white man is going at present pace. Many whites are beginning to realise this now. It all comes down to the family unit, and it's family structure that was obliterated by colonialism. In the USA, the Black community has over 70% of children without a father figure present. There is no such thing as a stable society without two functional parental figures - male and female - with clearly defined roles. The white family unit is under severe attack and is experiencing steep decline in all areas of human performance, some level of malformation which has never been seen in any culture since the dark days of the paganistic cultures they currently follow ideologically and theologically to the T. If one is to turn to racism, as a white person, it will backfire, as they are not the cerebral superpowers of the world, at present. To intimate that there is a division in humanity to the point speciation is the very pinnacle of ignorance on all levels. You are suffering today because of the idiocy of your forebears, the only thing I disagree with is the black man looking for an excuse to shed personal responsibility. However, that too was ingrained by the ruling class. What do we see with welfare junkies in Europe and the US? White people demanding freebies because they are entitled and blaming everyone for their own failings. Are they less than human too? Shall I look at New Yorkers, Californians and Londoners as a lesser species? This isn't as black and white and you want to believe. Worse yet, a breakdown in race relations is exactly what the ruling class want. You claim to be of superior stock, yet you've been played like a fool. Interesting that they openly consider you cattle, not human. Yes, there is a hierarchy in humanism, and you aren't at the top. It's funny how white racists never figure that out. 

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
05 Dec 2018, 14:09
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05 Dec 2018, 14:09#14
Racism does not exists. All that exists is the fact that people like to stick to the same. Or put another way, people don't like other people that are different. The smaller the difference, the more acceptable. If you have a group of black people together, the Zulu's will hang together, and the Xosas will hang together and so on . However, if a white dude had to come to the party and start causing shit, they'll very quickly put aside their relatively small differences, and stand together against the white man, who is even more of an outsider. Same with English white people and Afrikaans white people. There is still a historic dislike between them, but they'll quickly band together when an American white man bad mouths rugby.
It is the human condition. Weather it is based on religion, skin colour, language, nationality. People don't like those that are different, the more different the person, the more they will be disliked.
As my mother always said, birds of a feather flock together.    
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Dec 2018, 14:15
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05 Dec 2018, 14:15#15

A series of generalizations - mostly without meaning.   You refer to things on an ad-hoc basis.   That there are an increase in dependency on handouts in most western countries, fact si the majority are still not in the groove you painted people into.  There are indeed decent and upright citizens in most counties/

        

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Dec 2018, 16:18
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05 Dec 2018, 16:18#16

Aug

Environmental pressure driving natural selection can cause members of the same species to turn out very different. 

Here...

Imagine a small community that you have to help survive a winter in the two places below, a thousand years ago. Think of what will be required to achieve your task in each instance.

Natal

Sweden

It's as simple as that. 

In Natal you'd need to be able to hunt small game, make a fire and live near a water source. Hell it's debatable that you'd even need a fire.

In Sweden? Here before you even think of surviving you'll must be capable of planning and co-operation. That's just the start.

Ask yourself what types of traits will be selected for in those two climates/areas.

What you find is that survival in the harsher of the two climates requires that same skill set that is necessary to build a functioning first world country.

That doesn't mean blacks are dumb and whites are their masters. 

It means whites are better at creating wealth in the post industrial world because our ancestors were subject to a natural selection process that rooted out inabilities to plan and prioritise. Resource management, problem solving etc. All necessary traits for survival through a -20deg 8 month winter.

The above, depending on your leaning, could be said to be either true or entirely racist.

Now, ask yourself...What are the traits missing from Africa's attempts at attaining first world status?

If those traits were present, would they have been colonised in the first place?

We can say blacks are just more chilled out than whites. That's not a racist statement. But then go deeper ask why they are so chilled out? Why are whites more stressed and fussy? 

The answer is pretty obvious. But talk about it and you're a racist.

Assuming everyone is exactly the same and capable of all the same things is not only contrary to all evidence but it's damaging to progress itself.

People are different and we have different talents both as individuals and as groups. 

Let people thrive at what they are good at andaeveryone everyone prospers. That is the only system that works.

Curb talent and every one suffers.








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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Dec 2018, 16:35
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05 Dec 2018, 16:35#17
We are talking about nurture, not nature. As we speak, white civilization is trending down at an alarming rate for the same reasons black civilization diminished. 
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Dec 2018, 17:19
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05 Dec 2018, 17:19#18

Family units a thousand, two thousand and three thousand years had very little to do with one group building Rome and the other the Zim ruins.

Necessity had everything do with it.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
05 Dec 2018, 18:48
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05 Dec 2018, 18:48#19

I don't think civilization is collapsing in all countries. Countries that are stabilising population growth seem to be on the right track.

In Europe, some countries are thriving and continuing to improve- certainly better than the dark ages. 





sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
05 Dec 2018, 18:48
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05 Dec 2018, 18:48#20

I don't think civilization is collapsing in all countries. Countries that are stabilising population growth seem to be on the right track.

In Europe, some countries are thriving and continuing to improve- certainly better than the dark ages. 





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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Dec 2018, 20:16
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05 Dec 2018, 20:16#21

Shark

He's talking about divorce rates in the US black community since the 1930s and how more single parent households have correlated with higher incarceration rates.

He's saying that whites are catching up. 

It just one example from one country though. 

In Scandenavia the social systems are so good, that many woman choose to have kids out of wedlock. Not to sponge off the state but just because from pre-school to university the child is taken care of. 

The mom can have a career and the need for a nuclear family is diminished.

So they have a higher than normal rate of single parent households, but the dad's haven't necessarily vanished and the kids don't become drug lords.

It's how a society deals with a problem or a need that determines what effect it will have on them.

So we get back to...planning and problem solving.

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