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Tiaan Liebenberg a turnover KING

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 May 2012, 15:11
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22 May 2012, 15:11#1

Ex Sport 24

Cape Town – Stormers hooker Tiaan Liebenberg has climbed to joint-top of the charts for most turnovers in Super Rugby after Week 13.

The burly Liebenberg, following his team’s latest, hard-earned victory over the Waratahs at Newlands, heads the statistics in that category alongside Tom McCartney, who also wears the No 2 shirt for the ailing Blues – they have reportedly executed 29 turnovers each.

Another hooker, Springbok Bismarck du Plessis, who put in a big showing for the Sharks in their Bloemfontein triumph over the Cheetahs despite getting another 10 minutes in the sin bin, lies joint fourth on 26 with the Highlanders’ ever-industrious flank Adam Thomson and, interestingly, a less likely customer in Bulls fullback Zane Kirchner.

The stats are issued weekly by Australian newspaper the Sydney Morning Herald.

What the latest figures do appear to indicate is that South African teams in the competition, generally speaking, still favour fairly conservative, kicking-conscious game plans.

The highest-placed South African player for “most run metres”, for example, lies in eighth spot – it is the bottom-placed Lions’ versatile backline player Jaco Taute (736m) (Please note Dr Moz). All of the top seven slots are occupied by New Zealanders.

Bulls flyhalf Morne Steyn, by contrast, continues to boss most of the various kicking categories, including most tournament points with 167.

He has also been responsible for “most kicks” (112) with the Stormers’ fullback Joe Pietersen, who is often engaged in bouts of tactical ping-pong with rival kickers, next on 107.

For most kick metres, these two also head up proceedings: Steyn with 4,726m and Pietersen with 4,274.

There are also three South Africans among the top five for most tackles thus far: Marcell Coetzee of the Sharks is third with 168, the Stormers’ Siya Kolisi fourth (155) and Cheetahs’ Heinrich Brussow fifth (151).

The leaders here are Matt Todd of the Crusaders (178) and Western Force captain David Pocock (176).

For those who love stats. Liebenberg is of course undervalued.  Bissie not doing to bad for a player who seldom makes a steal - think Arisocrat.

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Blue2Rookie58 posts
22 May 2012, 19:40
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22 May 2012, 19:40#2

To me Liebenberg is only the 5th hooker in SA

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 May 2012, 19:53
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22 May 2012, 19:53#3

Agreed Blue, I have never rated the guy, if anything he is an irritation with his cheap shots that concede penalties.

My order of hookers: Bismark, Chiliboy, Strauss, Burden, Deon Fourie, Callie Visagie, Maku

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Blue2Rookie58 posts
22 May 2012, 20:00
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22 May 2012, 20:00#4

I was a bit more generous Saffex, I had him in after Burden. Buts thats because I forgot about Fourie, Visagie and Maku. hahahaha

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 May 2012, 20:02
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22 May 2012, 20:02#5

He is average at best, would not want him in my side

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lunaticClub Pro305 posts
22 May 2012, 22:41
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22 May 2012, 22:41#6

 Typical hooker mentality - but no hooker.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2012, 14:50
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23 May 2012, 14:50#7

Bwahahahahahaha chilli boy before Strauss what a clanger.

No wonder you don't rate Liebenberg sapster!!!!!!!!!  To be able to reasonably rate something you do need a clue!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 May 2012, 14:52
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23 May 2012, 14:52#8
Close call between Chiliboy and Strauss, as I have said, Strauss in the past 2 weeks has edged it. Liebenberg is just plain bloody ordinary and stupid given the number of penalties he concedes
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2012, 16:23
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23 May 2012, 16:23#9

Strauss has edged it opines the sapster. Edged by miles rather sapster. Anyhow nice to see you are backtracking on an absurd position. Guess who you should have listened to!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 May 2012, 18:02
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23 May 2012, 18:02#10

No backtracking Beenkop for you will find that in a previous post, I had Strauss ahead of Chiliboy in the past two weeks, but Chiliboy had the 4 weeks preceding this period. So overall I have Chiliboy slightly ahead for the season - get it car man?

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