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Time for another Destroyli

Started by Mozart10 REPLIES146 VIEWS· 01 Oct 2014, 18:15
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2014, 18:15
#1
01 Oct 2014, 18:15#1

Poisons build up over time. We have now had three coaches that followed the notion that there is an incumbent Bok team, that experience and familiarity counts. Over that time we have had mixed success....two TN titles ....one of the two RWCs....but generally a number two rating behind the ABs.

 

Not good enough say the fans, look at all the young players who are being ignored. What great rugby we could play. It apparently doesn't occur to these chaps that whoever we select will be man for man less dangerous than the ABs and OZ.

 

So they want us to ignore our competitive advantage in structured rugby and choose whoever looked good the previous week. Back to Rudolph Destroyli. Much beloved still by some.

 

It will be a disaster, but maybe like the stock market these crashes are necessary to flush out the poisons.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Oct 2014, 20:02
#2
01 Oct 2014, 20:02#2
Lets hope not. Fools never learn, let them nag all they want and stick to established coaches with actual track records. We were lucky with JW and Snorre, but we should not push our luck.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2014, 20:05
#3
01 Oct 2014, 20:05#3
 Mozart goes loony
Most fans recognize when things are not good enough and when it is time to replace a limited number of players - Mozart does not want any replacement policy.  The players he supported strongly have all gone down in perofrmnce since their glory days - but they should not be replaced.   
Nobody wants wholesale changes - but Mozart does not want any.   He does not realize that the results this year was generallt weaker than they were last year - that our scrumming tooka nose-dive - that some playes have not made the grade and here one can include at least five players in the present Springbok squad.
The problem is that we have beeterplayers - but they are excluded by Meyer - who has a real problem to contend with.   There is no doubt also po;lticial pressure on him - but that is not the issue here _| it would be on any coach.   
Meyer hs made some good changes - like getting rid of the perennial match loser - Morne Steyn - a player Mozart supported through thick and thin.   But there are some other that needs to b given the boot as a high priority:-
*   The non-performing Bakkies Botha*   The physically deficient Victoria - who reduces our Tight 5 to a Tight 4*   The tired and retreating Jannie du Plessis -  who lasts a very short time in matches before he starts to retreati in scrums in sound breaking speed;*   The universal joke Gurthro Steenkamp
Mozart called Jannie our "national treasure" - but the tresury is ruinning on empty and the fool does not realize it.   The problem is not the selection of players who "looked good the previous week" - it is the selection of players who never look good and who should never be in the squad.
Mozart's one piece of lunacy is - he never realizes when player p[erforances have gone down and when they should be relaced in  the team.   He never realized the engative impact thoseplayers have on performances of the Springboks     





 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2014, 20:32
#4
01 Oct 2014, 20:32#4
 

What utter rubbish

 

Lets ignore our experienced Boks who deserve to be in the side like JP, Habana (maybe), Beast, Bismark, Strauss and Vermeulen……..all are as good or better than their Kiwi and Oz counterparts.

 

At loosehead we have quality young looseheads in surplus, with Thomas du Toit leading the bunch. But with Beast we do not need to look at a youngster just yet.

 

At hooker we don’t need to look further than Bismark and Strauss, the best hookers in the game.

 

At tighthead we have Jannie hanging in there, he is no worse than Franks or Kepu. In Marcel v/d Merwe we have a player who looks equipped to be better than Franks or Kepu, so playing him would be an asset. Hell Malherbe is better than any young Kiwi or Oz tighthead prospect out there.

 

At lock we have Etzebeth who at his best is better than Retallick but lets keep it even for now….both are class young acts. To partner Etzebeth we have the likes of Willemse, PSDT and Lood who are better than both Carter and Simmons who are at best average and in Willemse, we have someone who would add more value than Whitelock and lets not forget how good PSDT was before his injury. These youngsters are twice the players old man Matfield is.

 

At 6 we have Coetzee getting better and better, he is not Hooper, the best 6 in the game, but give me Coetzee over McCaw these days.

 

At 7 we should have a player like Jacques du Plessis or PSDT, who would not disgrace themselves against Messam or Kaino and are far better than average Fardy

 

At 8 we have Vermeulen the 2nd best 8 in the game behind Read. In Arno Botha, we have a youngster to take over the mantle and far far better than average McCalman

 

At 9 we have Hougaard and Reinach, who are a match for Smith and Phipps…….not to mention Faf de Klerk and v/Zyl.

 

At 10, Pollard, Goosen and Lambie are a match for Barrett, Cruden, Foley and Cooper

 

At 12, Serfontein is far better than any young Kiwi or Oz 12 and certainly has the match of old man Nonu these days

 

At 13, we should be playing de Allende or JJ, JJ has already trumped Smith at test level. De Allende is a match for Kurindrani, I am giving the edge to impressive Fik of NZ. Old man Conrad Smith is making little impression these days, much like Jean

 

On the wing JP is a match for any wing but Savea……..we don’t have any standout youngsters here except maybe Senatla

 

At 15, young Willie is a match for Dagg and Folau

 

So what utter rubbish, we have better young talent than ever and they should be playing

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2014, 23:58
#5
01 Oct 2014, 23:58#5
Loser if you think de Allende and JJ are better than Smith you are even more stupid than I thought....and that's pretty stupid.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Oct 2014, 00:09
#6
02 Oct 2014, 00:09#6
 The stupid one on this site has always been Mozart.  He has zero rugby knowkedge and comeup with the most ridiculous statements only a real rugby stupedo can produce.       
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Oct 2014, 00:11
#7
02 Oct 2014, 00:11#7
 Sadly OOm that is not the consensus....you are the weakest link.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Oct 2014, 00:21
#8
02 Oct 2014, 00:21#8
According to you concensus on this Board consists of the three morons - Mozartron, zeromoron and Bonzo the Apemoron - the latter has disappeared into thin air - e could not take Morne's disgrace.   That is no concensus - that is a reminder that stupedoes on this  board will always think alike.    Try again.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2014, 00:26
#9
02 Oct 2014, 00:26#9
 Look here fuckwit you think Cilliers should be our tighthead you moron so don't come preach to me about being stupid.
JJ kicked Smiths arse at test and S15 level -FACT.
de Allende has the makings of a class test centre. Smith was good in his day his day is done. He has done NOTHING of note for a good year. Old players dwindle, the light goes out.....Jean, Nonu and Smith fit that bill. 
You are too fucking stupid to comprehend this fact.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Oct 2014, 00:34
#10
02 Oct 2014, 00:34#10
Why dont you put your theory to the test Vetsak....run a Board poll to see if posters believe JJ and De Allende are better than Smith.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2014, 00:43
#11
02 Oct 2014, 00:43#11
I don't give a toss what a bunch of ignorant fools think. I know for a fact that Smith has gone awol this year and that de Allende was our best attacking back this s15.
If that idiot of a coach of ours had actually shown more faith in him than 2 bloody tests we might have been licking our lips by now.
Smith is done just like Jean is. Fikito is better than Smith is now. ...much much better.
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