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Tobias thinks Jantjies' problem is Faf.

Started by Mozart13 REPLIES640 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2016, 15:56
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2016, 15:56
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24 Aug 2016, 15:56#1
Tobias: Faf not relieving pressure off Elton2016-08-24 10:24SHARE THISErrol Tobias (File)Related Links

Cape Town - Former Springbok flyhalf Errol Tobias believes Elton Jantjies needs to be given time to prove himself in the national team.

Jantjies has copped flak for his inconsistent performances in recent times, but Tobias has urged fans to be patient with the Bok playmaker.

In an interview with Netwerk24, Tobias said Jantjies deserves at least two more Tests to stake a claim.

If his performances are still below par, then questions about the coaching need to be asked, Tobias said.

“Go look at the flyhalves who played before Elton. Pat Lambie and Handre Pollard were not complete flyhalves, they also had limitations. So why put Elton under so much pressure when he’s only played in three Tests under Allister Coetzee?” Tobias questioned.

“We know that when you move from any level to Springbok level, it’s a different kind of pressure. I don’t believe there is a problem with Elton’s mental preparation before Tests. But the question needs to be asked if he’s good enough to perform consistently at Test level.”

According to Tobias, Jantjies’ inability to kick with his right foot is being exposed by opponents.

“He positions himself wrong when kicking with the right foot. He’ll have to work on it, because he betrays himself when he kicks with the right foot.”

Jantjies’ halfback partner Faf de Klerk has been lauded for his performances in recent times and claimed the man-of-the-match accolade in last weekend’s 30-23 comeback win over Argentina in Nelspruit.

But Tobias believes there are weaknesses in De Klerk’s game which puts Jantjies under pressure.

“As lively as he is at scrumhalf, his feet aren’t always placed in the right position when passing to Elton under pressure.

“We shouldn’t be sentimental here, but the truth speaks for itself. Faf is not good with his feet. He can’t relieve pressure off Elton with tactical kicking and he’ll have to work on it,” Tobias noted.

“I’m appealing to South Africans to look at Elton in a balanced way as a flyhalf, but they have to realise Faf also has limitations.”

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2016, 16:00
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24 Aug 2016, 16:00#2
Sounds like complete BS......Faf is a warrior, Sure he is no F du Preez with the boot, but I'm convinced absent Faf we lost that test on Saturday.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Aug 2016, 17:04
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24 Aug 2016, 17:04#3
 Well what do you know! That surely hit the argument to have the Lions halfback pair as the Bok halfback pair because of their ex perience as a duo, and their mutual understanding of each other, for a six.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Aug 2016, 17:13
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24 Aug 2016, 17:13#4
 Well I tend to agree that Faf also have a few ateas of his game he should work on...his passing isn't always that great, but if I have to pick one over the other, I'll pick Faf without hesitation.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2016, 17:17
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24 Aug 2016, 17:17#5
Already an issue.....how does Jantjies do against the Canes er ABs.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Aug 2016, 17:54
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24 Aug 2016, 17:54#6
 If he does better than he did in a Lions jumper, it would be coaching? He seems not to be able to adjust his positioning for the rush defence. It was the main problem in the Irish tests too. But to me this is a coaching /game plan issue.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
24 Aug 2016, 18:18
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24 Aug 2016, 18:18#7
I think the issue is the loosies being poor at the Rucks. Janties needs more oppertunity
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
24 Aug 2016, 18:18
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24 Aug 2016, 18:18#8
I think the issue is the loosies being poor at the Rucks. Janties needs more oppertunity
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Aug 2016, 18:32
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24 Aug 2016, 18:32#9
 I think it's more a bit of adjustment needed. Our loosies were crap, but even when they get on par, space will still be less in tests than even a SR final. I don't see it as a big problem. Back in the day Morne addapted easily because the Bools' game suited test rugby better. Elton just needs to get used to the difference in pace and intensity. ...I hope!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Aug 2016, 06:20
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25 Aug 2016, 06:20#10
It's much harder for Jantjies. Morne is deeper and plays well defined patterns. Jantjies makes his decisions at the last second at the point of contact. Quicker defences like the Canes put huge pressure on his style in particular. And with Jantjies, once the bubble bursts it seems to impact every aspect of his game.....nor does he seem to have a Plan B that has him deeper, reverting to more of a kicking game.
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Aug 2016, 07:12
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25 Aug 2016, 07:12#11
 A way to release pressure on Elton

There may be a lot separating New Zealand from South Africa on the rugby field at the moment, but...
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Aug 2016, 08:49
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25 Aug 2016, 08:49#12
 Agreed Moz.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Aug 2016, 08:50
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25 Aug 2016, 08:50#13
 Jantjies doesn't belong in the Bok jersey. It's as simple as that.
Blaming the brilliant Faf for Jantjies' short comings is absurd.
The step up to test level is beyond Jantjies. We have all seen him crumble in pressure situations and that at super rugby and CC level ... of course test match rugby is going to be an unassailable challenge for this confidence player. 
He doesn't have what it takes ... and we can't wait around hoping that he'll find his way ... eventually.
Get rid of him ... NOW ... and try someone else.
Morne is useless. Useless on attack and useless on defence. His only strength is his shots at the posts. 
Definitely not the answer to our problem.




AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
26 Aug 2016, 01:31
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26 Aug 2016, 01:31#14
Just my opinion on transformation fly-halves wearing the Green and Gold.
Neither Errol Tobias, Earl Rose or Jantjies were or are international grade players.
Jantjies is overrated and has not got the skill or guts to play test rugby.
Unfortunately SAR  will continue to go downhill if players are not selected on merit.
I am all for merit selection but unfortunately the ANC have continued down the same path with what the National Party did to RSA.
Screwed the country and appointed ignorant party members to top positions.
But to get back to sport and Rugby........
RSA has got amazing sport depth but while politics controls sport the country will lose top players and second grade players will be selected to represent the country.
This holds true to all forms of sport.
Met a few RSA sport folk at the Olympics and they were actually very proud to have been selected to represent RSA plus they were excellent ambassadors for both RSA and sport in general.
We cannot correct past injustices but lets trust that the people of RSA do not allow it to happen again.
Pray.

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