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Too much Super Rugby on Saturdays

Started by Mozart27 REPLIES493 VIEWS· 23 Mar 2017, 16:35
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Mar 2017, 16:35
#1
23 Mar 2017, 16:35#1
With 8 games a week, there is just too much rugby on Saturdays. We need some Thursday, Friday and Sunday games. Done right this has to increase interest and TV ratings. . In South Africa for example there are almost always 3 Saturday games. Take a page from Monday Night football and have Friday Night Rugby.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2017, 16:47
#2
23 Mar 2017, 16:47#2
 Last week there were in fact two SA games on Saturday and one on Friday night - so you can come up with your standard nonsense after it in fact happened when the Bulls played on Friday night..   This week again there are two Saturday afternoon games in SA.
But you are no watching even a third of the games - so how do you know what really is going on?   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 02:49
#3
24 Mar 2017, 02:49#3
On six of the seventeen Fridays a Super Rugby match is played in South Africa. A huge opportunity lost....case closed.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:14
#4
24 Mar 2017, 03:14#4
 Aussie rugby loigue played now on a Thurs Fri Sat Sun & Mon .
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:21
#5
24 Mar 2017, 03:21#5
 Makes sense. It's hard to watch more than 2 games on a given day, and even if you record other games they are usually the lesser contests and seem stale a few days later.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:41
#6
24 Mar 2017, 03:41#6
 American football schedules ?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:51
#7
24 Mar 2017, 03:51#7
Sunday is the main event....but Monday night football opened up a much broader audience. Perhaps Friday night rugby could do the same thing for moribund Super Rugby.
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:52
#8
24 Mar 2017, 03:52#8
 
Rugby over here starts on Friday night. Then 3 or so games on Saturday. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 04:39
#9
24 Mar 2017, 04:39#9
Makes sense. The night games have their own vibe and a larger potential audience.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2017, 05:35
#10
24 Mar 2017, 05:35#10
 In principle I agree with more Friday night games in SA - but Sunday games are only involving Aussie sides in the rare event of it happening,    There never was a Sunday game in SA even when the number of teams are limited.  Sunday sport here attracts less spectators and is not used by families to visit sport with the possible exception of cricket - especially the shortened versions of the game.
I do not think they would play Sunday games here - so that version is out.   In the past players have refused to play on Sundays on religious grounds and that is still the case.  Aside from that from now onwards the SA Teams involved must travel to NZ and Australia.  It is in essence not advisable is the even of such away games.    Even if they leave on Sunday nights they may only get to their hotels as late as Tuesday and have to prepare for matches on Friday or Saturday nights.    
As to the issue of "moribund Super Rugby" has nothing to do with the days on which games are played - and everything to do with some sub-standard teams in the set-up.   You have conjured up statements about stadiums be empty - but that happened only when weaker teams play or when we have dud rugby being played according to your model of rugby.    That statement was made by  you when there were 35 000 spectators at Newlands for one of the Stormers games - so another cloud 9 statement on your part.
 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 06:19
#11
24 Mar 2017, 06:19#11
 Wrong as usual... ....... Sport Super Rugby faces empty stadiums Hendrik Cronjé 2016-07-03 15:00 Empty stadiums at this year’s Super Rugby matches and declining television audiences tell a story of sad decline. Spectator attendance statistics that City Press’ sister newspaper, Rapport, obtained from the SA Rugby Union (Saru) paint a particularly bleak picture. The Nelson Mandela Stadium in the Bay was only 15% full during Super Rugby matches, with an average of 6 914 spectators tallied per match. Toyota Stadium in Bloemfontein was only 17% full, with an average spectator attendance of 7 780. Cape Town’s Newlands Stadium was the only local venue that was more than 50% full (52%, with an average spectator tally of 26 992). Newlands is followed by Kings Park (45%, 23 591), Loftus Versfeld (35%, 17 921) and Ellis Park (32%, 19 808), although the capacity of 62 567 at Ellis Park is higher than that of the other stadiums. Rugby governing body Sanzaar’s television audience figures make for equally dismal reading. With 3 816 903 fewer viewers, the SuperSport channel showed the biggest decline in television audience out of South Africa, Australia (Fox Sports) and New Zealand (Sky Sports). This despite the fact that more matches are being played this year after Super Rugby was expanded from 15 to 18 teams. Sanzaar’s statistics compare round nine of Super Rugby in 2012 with round nine in 2016. “SuperSport has an excellent relationship with Sanzaar and has confidence in the process of reviewing Super Rugby’s structures and format, which is currently under way,” said Clinton van den Berg, SuperSport’s communications manager. At a recent meeting with Sanzaar and other commercial partners, SuperSport was afforded the opportunity to make inputs on the Super Rugby series which it regards as confidential. It has, however, confirmed that it is working alongside Sanzaar in developing structures. Only 419 336 spectators attended local Super Rugby matches before the series was interrupted by the Irish tour – the worst attendance figure in years, and 145 161 lower than the 2012 figure.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2017, 07:09
#12
24 Mar 2017, 07:09#12
 Mow he is back to 2016 reports = the empty head lives in the past.  And he does not accept the other issues involved - like the sluggish economy that reduced spending ability on tickets, the fact that some teams have very little crowd drawing ability, the kak coaches causing one-dimensional and losing rugby played, etc. 
Cannot help with a one-dimensional brain deficiency - go and see your quack - maybe he knows about the possibility of a brain transplant.    You badly needs one. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 16:04
#13
24 Mar 2017, 16:04#13
Fighting for possession . Having control the principle obsession . Rivalry and retribution . Death the only solutIon
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2017, 16:14
#14
24 Mar 2017, 16:14#14
 Back to childishness again - I am really getting sorry for you.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Mar 2017, 08:13
#15
25 Mar 2017, 08:13#15
 
Too many Super Rugby matches period.

Who can watch it all ... especially when one's out and about doing your busines on a Saturday morning?

Would be nice to sit and watch a few matches during the week.

Problem with that is that teams would probably complain that the time frame between matches is too short for players to recover in.




 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2017, 08:32
#16
25 Mar 2017, 08:32#16
 CC
The issue of reducing he number of teams and thus the number of matches is accepted by Sanzaar is something different and I here goes for games to be spread over more than two days.   I am not sure that would be advisable since the Thursday game tried this year was not a wholesale success.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
25 Mar 2017, 10:52
#17
25 Mar 2017, 10:52#17
 Too much rugby ? Sacrilege ! Actually it is hard when your busy to fit it all in ,like most I guess I get a look at highlights and concentrate on the big match-ups .
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
25 Mar 2017, 13:45
#18
25 Mar 2017, 13:45#18
 The numbers are terrible, speaking of working at overcapacity. Does a 20 % attendance cover for upkeep costs?

Kolmanskop is closer every day.

One quick, sure way to reduce the number of games to watch: expectation of quality. This removes most games involving SA teams.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Mar 2017, 13:54
#19
25 Mar 2017, 13:54#19
 Trad, your bitter ballz are only going to get worse. SA will rise again....Rugby and the rest. Your ilk are being found out. Your time is limited. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2017, 15:09
#20
25 Mar 2017, 15:09#20
 You pick the matches you want to watch. 
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
26 Mar 2017, 13:08
#21
26 Mar 2017, 13:08#21
 Trad, your bitter ballz are only going to get worse. SA will rise again....Rugby and the rest. Your ilk are being found out. Your time is limited.

Time is limited for anyone. Excellent men excell at shortening people's time, granted. Their major field.

There is no bitterness. Bitterness, vindiction, acrimony, hatred, delusion, denial are to be found among excellent men.

SA rose the way Kolmanskop rose. Pilgrimage to this location should be compulsory in SA.
The future is set. No rise again. Just like Kolmanskop did not rise again.

Watching games on Saturday was striking: when zapping from french sides to SA sides, it appears french sides could compete or beat SA sides by the number of non whites fielded.

The question mark was all about understanding how SAns could keep deluding themselves with that quota story. Or if they wanted to reject their responsibility in the current state of affairs, how they could think that the quota story held.
A better story is needed.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Mar 2017, 13:55
#22
26 Mar 2017, 13:55#22
 Mozart is as per normal is BSing again.   The stadium can take 42 000 spectators and official figures indicated there were 15 000 - so the 20% BS is from the serial dunce.  The real percentage  was 36%.   Not good enough attendance - but to lie about this ty pe of thing is ridiculous.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Mar 2017, 16:02
#23
26 Mar 2017, 16:02#23
Official figures would never say there were 15000 spectators, they always give a precise number. But if you can cut and paste the report that there were 15000 I will accept that. Over to you Fantasy Flop.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Mar 2017, 16:49
#24
26 Mar 2017, 16:49#24
There was a full report where the 15000 figure was mentioned.    I will contact the Cheetahs office and get the real detailed figures from them.   In the meantime stew in your own juice - liar.  
BSter why don't you participate in Fantasy Rugby and if you are in the top 10% of participants you are no flop.  Why are you so stupid
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Mar 2017, 16:51
#25
26 Mar 2017, 16:51#25
 No you claimed the official figures showed 15000....you never got that from the Cheetahs office. Produce the source for that number or you have just been caught in another lie Fantasy Flop.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Mar 2017, 17:03
#26
26 Mar 2017, 17:03#26
 I said I will get the official figures Bster and publish them here.   Lies are your forte - not mine.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Mar 2017, 17:13
#27
26 Mar 2017, 17:13#27
No you thought you could get away with a lie. You said you had the official figure which according to you was 15000, produce your source....no need to get it from the Cheetahs produce your source Fantasy Flop.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Mar 2017, 17:25
#28
26 Mar 2017, 17:25#28
 And here's another lie, you said the Free State stadium capacity is 42000....here's the official number, you are 10% low lying Fantasy Flop. The lies just keep flowing: ... Vodacom Park Location Kings Way, Bloemfontein, South Africa Coordinates 29°7?2?S 26°12?32?E Operator Mangaung Metropolitan Municipality Capacity 46,000[1][2] Surface Grass
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