Top players despised by Mozart and CC

Another round of games and the top performers in their games were -

*  despised by both - Lood de Jager, Jesse Kriel amd Lappies Labuschagne

*  despised by Mozart only - Du Toit

What does that tell us about the situation?  It indicates prejud ice as a norm for them when it comes to players.  Not wise at all. 

Splinter, log...eye

 Another nut case comment from a dimwit knowing nothing about loosie play and the loinking of loosies to support backline attacks - have never seen how it happens regularly in NZ teams.   Wha a farce.

Mozart

Only idiots base a players performance evaluation on one incident in a match and that is  fact as well.  

Buut then w know with whom, we are dealing here.  This is theguy who wants De Kock out of the Protea team and replaced by Klaasen.   Apparently experts do not agree with that one - as is evid3nced by the IPL.  Klaasen is supposed to play for Rajahstan - he did play I one game and failed badly.   He will likely not play again.   De Kock played in all the Bangalore games and made good scores at a very high striking rate.  But then De Kock cannot play spin - next  Mozart spin he cannot play fast bowlers.   So what w ill come up nest dim one?       

The dud has spoken si I must accept his garbage as reality - not a chance.   

However, I must never forget = according to Mozart loosies mist be slow clumsy duds who must always be there to turn the Tight 5 into a Tight 8.  

Mozart

Fact are that no single player wins a test - rugby is a team sport after all   Your argument above is so stupid it is unbelievable coming from a grown-up.   If you cook up anything new - please make sure it logical.      

Childishness without limit.  LMA0  

Oh dear!!! A thread that was designed to embarrass us has now backfired and you're left with the egg, Tokks.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaa!!!

Didn't think that one through, huh?

Ummm ... you seem to be really slow on the uptake so let me try help you.

There are many "fairly good" players in each of our franchises. We even have a few "fairly good" players playing for other franchises, like the Sun Wolves. The difference between us is that you rate these "fairly good" players as top international prospects. Guys like Lappies and Lood ... De Allende and Kriel. I on the other hand prefer to take the cream of our talent and leave the "fairly good" players back at their respective franchises ... where they belong.

Lappies is by no means a test player. A good solid man ... yes ... but that's where it ends. He will never amount to anything more than that. That sadly is a fact.

Lood is probably competing with Mostert, Schickerling and I would say Willemse as our third best lock. Eben and Du Toit are the two best we have by far in my opinion. 

Lood has had a few really poor seasons of late. He is inconsistent. Blowing hot and cold doesn't do it for me at all. He is physically not up to test match rugby as we've seen several times over.  

Rugby is indeed a team sport ... made up of our best talent. Putting a team of sub-standard players together has been done COUNTLESS times over the last 10 years ... and look where it's got us.

We already know that De Allende and Kriel are useless as a combination. We've seem them together ... we know what we have in them. Why on earth would we want to go down that same old road again?

It's the same as playing Jantjies over and over and over again. When are you going to learn that kicking a dead horse is going to breath life back in to it.

I know it's difficult but try to use your head in future.

We know Kiel and Allende are useless opines wee cc. Lood is useless. My oh my - sidesplltting effort from CC. Hahahaahhahahahahahaha

CC does get lappies right though!

Fraid so, BeanDip ... De Allende contributed to the Stormers loss ... again.

He is a liability. They would do so much better if they begged De Jongh to come back and play at 12.

How he became a Bok is beyond me.

All I can say is that I'm grateful he's not a Lion.

Poor CC - he fails to understand anything of substance.  I am writing about the performance of players in Super  15 and not about the selection of the test team.   Slow on the uptake - but let me help him out here.

First of all the Springbok team will be selected based on performance and how he sees the players fitting into the game plan he intends to use.   For that purpose there are signs that is significant - for example his request to play Mostert and Du Toit in the number 7 position to see howthey perform,  

From that I assume that he has in mind already who should be in the lock position or has at least looked at various options in those positions.   What is evident is that in the cas of the locks he probably has three players in mind`  as locks and those are Etzebeth, De Jager and Du Toit.  Schickerling is a long time option likely to come onto the scene - but his injury is keeping him out at present,  I do not think Rassie is considering Mostert at all in the lock position  - hence his request for Mostert to play at 7 - where he was not as good as for instance Du Preez and Du Toit,   However, we will see how t pans out.

There are other interesting comments he made as well.   He goes for De Allende and Kriel all out  but has no alternative suggestion as to that combination.  I have seen some comments and initially liked Van Rensburg a lot -but something went wrong with the player and he is now selected on the bench - Vorster being considered ahead of him.   I also  like Etsterhuizen, but on Saturday he was outplayed by De Allende - sow hat is to happen in that case?

I do not like Kriel particularly - but what other options are there?   There are maybe Am - Mapoe is a definite no-no - butAm blows hot and cold and when he has stronger opposition it is mostly cold.   The question remains who else.

I like his argument as to what we have seen in the past - it reminds me about what we have seen last year of Dreyer at tighthead - yet CC has completely ignored that one and is punting Dreyer again.  

However, we are not the selectors and we can discuss the issues as per normal - but inm the end our perspectives may be influenced by outside factors non-related to rugby - like prejudice against certain players, franchise support, etc.

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Um ...no, Tokks.

Rassie's first priority is to get his 50% quota selection in place. He must decide which of the better white players to exclude. Space must be made for the quotas. It has nothing to do with merit. He is a puppet to his racist masters and must first appease them before anything else.

The days of fielding our best is long gone.

Don't you know that??

We will see how the 5o% quota system is going to develop.   There are sone players that cannopt be regarded as quota players - they are deserved selections and would have been in the squad anyway.  

I would like to see what happens - but one ting is clear - there will be no Paige, De Jongh and other similar duds like Meyer and Coetzee selected,  I also think that players should be selected on merit only - but that may be a problem for Rassie,   However, he is no fool and he will realize that his job will only be safe if the Springboks perform and win matches.   If he is forced to select dud players on the basis of race he will not succeed and that would be the end of Rassie as a coach.  

That being the case we will have to see how far Rassie goes with the quota story,  

However, you seem to think that performance on Super Rugby is not a consideration - but it is and will impact on the selections.    I think by now Rassie has categorized players on the basis of -

*   certainties'

*   probable;

*   potential.

So lets wait and see.  

However, in the broader context one virtually never see late contenders from  CC and Mozart = and I in particular would like to see how the former sees alternatives.       Mozar would never come up with alternatives - since hey would be so ridiculous that everybody would hve real LMAO situations.  

Yes ... there are some players of colour that do not qualify as quotas. They are talented and would be selected on merit.

Papier is a prospect that needs to be in the mix. No doubt to start from the bench.

Willemse (who you no longer rate as a test prospect)

Nkosi has the pace, the physical strength and is solid on defense.

Gelant is also a quality player in my books. Combrinck and Le Roux are more experienced and probably better options at 15.

Then ... um ... who exactly, Mike ... did you have in mind??

We have no black forwards at international level. Not one.

Please let us have the remaining 12 - 15 players of colour that'll make the squad.on merit.

Well CC, that's not exactly Maaik's fault now is it?