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Totsie's Coetzee, Venter, Franco?

Started by sharkbok6 REPLIES906 VIEWS· 11 Nov 2017, 20:28
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,257 posts
11 Nov 2017, 20:28
#1
11 Nov 2017, 20:28#1
Can someone please send Rassie an SOS. Anyone, please help.....Pdivvy, Jake, anyone
The All Black game was a myth- based on the performance of Marx. The team is starting to revert to the rudderless game plan of 2016. Up and under are the only option. 
We urgently need a fetcher in the back row. Kolisi started the year on fire- but has become a non-entity or a liability at the breakdown. No game plan what so ever- so the players look like headless chickens.
To many players tried to stand in the tackle, even when outnumbered and this led to even more slow ball and turn overs.




sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,257 posts
11 Nov 2017, 20:30
#2
11 Nov 2017, 20:30#2
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BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Nov 2017, 20:40
#3
11 Nov 2017, 20:40#3
 The back three are too small and ineffectual. Coetzee at least tries and contributes.
Rohan and Vorster could be tried at center. Rohan should always have been in the side.Mallet thinks Pollard should be tried at inside center. - Worth a shot Why is Faf not playing. Why this antipathy to creativity.Jantjes cant operate under Alistair Coetzee's game plan.
Wilco was not fit enough to play 79 minutes at this level.
De Jager didn't do enough.Bongi is a non entity.Kolisi fouled up.Absolutely no attack skills.Fire Coetzee and get in a top coach.
I believe we had 55% possession and 66% territory.
Its all a total shambles. Bok rugby is now second teir.



BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
11 Nov 2017, 20:43
#4
11 Nov 2017, 20:43#4
 As I have said for two years, the Bok is dead it will not be coming back. No matter how much is written or who the next quota or puppet coach is. The ANC will remain in power and gradually the country will drift  closer and closer to the economic prosperity enjoyed by Mozambique Zimbabwe and Angola.I hope SA does not get to host  the RWC in23. SARU and the ANC do not need that type of possitive international endorsement.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Nov 2017, 20:50
#5
11 Nov 2017, 20:50#5
 Boks are becoming the West In does of Rugby. The once mighty Windies are no more.When I see how pathetic the Boks are when compared to a top level side its frightening.Watching the wee abs dismantle France makes on realize we are far behind.What is totally alarming there is no desire to embrace merit and professionalism.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,257 posts
11 Nov 2017, 20:56
#6
11 Nov 2017, 20:56#6
Is this the official sarfu website? http://www.sarfu.org.za/article.aspx?category=sarugby/springboks&id=4174364
Ireland produced a perfectly composed and controlled performance to record a record 38-3 win over the Springboks as the Castle Lager Outgoing Tour started in the worst possible way in a bitterly cold Aviva Stadium in Dublin on Saturday night.
The loss was on par with the 57-0 defeat against the All Blacks just six weeks back and raised massive questions about the coaching team at the start of a long tour that could well become a nightmare if any of these performances are repeated in the next three weeks to come.
There is no sugar coating it. It was one of the poorest Springbok performances of all time, and one which will reverberate around the world, as the Boks will need to do some massive soul-searching this coming week as they head to Paris for a tough gig next weekend against France.On a night where the Boks had promised a similar performance to the one-point loss to the All Blacks at Newlands, they produced just the opposite. They were outplayed in every aspect of the game and instead of bursting onto the field full of fire and passion, it was the Irish who were both passionate and controlled, and played the perfect game plan to exploit so many of the Bok mistakes on the night.It started with the loss of Coenie Oosthuizen just a minute in when the big prop was injured in the first tackle. It was a massive tackle from Bundi Aki, and signified just how firey the Irish were to be on the night.Sadly, the Boks were nowhere near the same level of intensity, they were nowhere near the same level of commitment. And if they were aiming to repeat the performance of Newlands, they failed horribly in the opening minutes, and that set the tone for the night.Add to this a general impotence on attack – a backline that has struggled to fire all season – and an inability to control any ball in the air, and Ireland were set up for the win of their lives, and delivered a hammer blow to the Boks' hopes of finishing the year on a high.It started with the scrum giving away more than its fair share of penalties – starting with two players who had just returned from injury as opposed to the two in-form youngsters, and then continued into the general malaise that found the Boks so wanting in every other aspect in the game.But it was worse than that. The Boks were outplayed and out-muscled, and found themselves playing a poor second fiddle at the breakdown, where the Irish forwards ruled supreme. Ben O’Keefe allowed more than the normal leeway at the breakdown, but the Boks should and could have adapted. They didn’t and as a consequence could build no momentum.Then there was the kicking game. Coach Allister Coetzee’s decision to stick with Ross Cronje and Elton Jantjies backfired as both were poor in their execution of the kicking game, with less than a handful of kicks finding their mark while every Irish up and under was contested – exceptionally executed by Conor Murray, who has to be the best tactical scrumhalf in the world at the moment.Both Cronje and Jantjies only offer a one-stop option, with the ball being moved laterally down the line and no sign of a dart, a grubber or anything else that would go against the script.Murray was Fourie du Preez-esque as he peppered the Boks in the air, and not one of the back three took one ball in the air on the night – not just a cause for concern for the coaching staff but likely to be a target area for all the teams the Boks will face in the weeks to come.It was there that the Boks struggled, at the scrum, the breakdown and under the high ball. Three key elements that turn any rugby game, and three areas in which the Boks were exceptionally poor on the night.There were chances – Damian de Allende inexplicably kicked the ball poorly to the Irish fullback with a four on one situation in the first half, while Siya Kolisi’s pass could have found Courtnal Skosan had he been on his shoulder when it was delivered with an overlap and an open tryline. Both were lost opportunities. In contrast, the Irish never lost an opportunity.Where the Boks should have been looking to build an innings, it was Jonny Sexton’s boot that gave Ireland a 9-0 lead early on before they had really done anything. Simply capitalising on the Bok scrum and mistakes gave them a beautiful head-start.And then when Murray angled a perfect up and under that Skosan dropped while three teammates within catching distance looked on, it was Irish winger Andrew Conway who pounced to rush down the sideline to score.Up 14-0 at halftime simply by being clinical and exploiting mistakes, Ireland continued their charge as the Boks became more desperate.A lone penalty in the second half gave them some purpose, but there were too many errors. Too many dropped balls and lost breakdown battles for them to gain any momentum.And when the last 10 minutes came, the Boks fell apart.Rhys Ruddock barged his way over from close range in the 70th minute, before Cape Town born Rob Herring grabbed one with five minutes to go out on the wing.The final nail in the coffin, however, was left to Jacob Stockdale out wide to score on the final whistle, and leave Dublin a happier place as the celebrations broke out in the crowds.The final whistle brought an end to the game that the Boks would much rather forget and a reality check of where the Springboks currently are.With three weeks of touring left, that is a massive concern.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,257 posts
11 Nov 2017, 21:28
#7
11 Nov 2017, 21:28#7
 3 tries in 9 minutes says it all. The Boks totally fell apart- and became the 2016 team all over.
80TRY, IRELAND, STOCKDALE! 36-3: A cross-kick by Stockdale is finished by the man himself.80CONVERSION, IRELAND, SEXTON! 38-3: Sexton nails a beauty!80FULL TIME: South Africa suffers their second record defeat against a test playing nation, after the defeat against New Zealand earlier this year. They were never really in the game and all credit to Ireland for their effort. They will party late into the night. Thank you for joining us.80IRELAND 38-3 SOUTH AFRICA.78CONVERSION, IRELAND, SEXTON! 31-3: Sexton adds to the humiliation.77TRY, IRELAND, HERRING! 29-3: A first test try against the country of his birth for Rob Herring. Great work by the Irish forwards to place the final nail in the coffin.75Sexton is replaced by Carbery. Ireland apply the pressure at the scrum and win another penalty. Carbery finds touch in the corner.73CONVERSION, IRELAND, SEXTON! 24-3: Sexton adds to the pain.71 TRY , IRELAND, RUDDOCK! 22-3: It started with a wide pass to Conway who came close. Good support work and handling ended with a Rhys Ruddock try. That is surely that!
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