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Two more AB 10s off the production line heading north

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
10 Jan 2018, 09:06
#1
10 Jan 2018, 09:06#1

...the quality of Northern Hemisphere rugby appears to be improving all the time...with the latest news of

Lima Sopoaga shocking Highlander supporters announcing he's is off to join Wasps after the 2018 season.... signing a two year deal 


...and Stephen McDonald aka Beaver is also off to Ulster replacing Christian Lealifano


With BBarret and Richie Mo'unga ahead of him Sopoaga bites the bullet preferring to play rather than sit on the AB bench... not sure how he'll fit in at the Wasps as they already have two capable 10s in Cipriani and Gopperth



Sopoaga and Donald joining quite an extensive list of Kiwi 10s already rocking it in Europe


Marty Banks at Benetto Treviso


Jimmy Gopperth at Wasps


Aaron Cruden at Montpellier


Tyler Bleyendaal at Munster


Dan Carter at Racing Metro


Colin Slade at Pau


Luke McAlister at Toulon


James Marshall at London Irish


James Wilson at Bath


Simon Hickey at Bordeaux


Ben Botica at Oyonnax


Joey Carbery at Munster


Hayden Parker at the Sunwolves


Gareth Anscombe at Cardiff Blues


Hadleigh Parkes at the Scarlets 

KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
10 Jan 2018, 09:24
#2
10 Jan 2018, 09:24#2

I think the nail in the coffin for Sopoaga would have been the decision to play Damian McKenzie at 1st 5 this season.

That's a lot of awesome 1st 5 talent playing overseas and yet the ABs are still well served with Barret, Mo'unga and McKenzie. Big blow for the Highlanders though.

I see Brad Shields is also heading to Wasps.


BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
10 Jan 2018, 10:06
#3
10 Jan 2018, 10:06#3

...I was hoping that DMac continued at fullback to be honest although there is plenty of competition there also, ...was a disaster when the Chiefs played him at 10 against the B an I Lions...although i'm sure he learnt plenty ftom that experience

Would'nt mind seeing Nanai Williams given a run at 10 for the Chiefs this year myself... he was outstanding at standoff in the November International against Scotland scoring 18 points..

Chiefs also have an exciting new prospect in Tiaan Falcon - part of the world champion U20s team who needs to be broken into SR...

 Then there's DMacs brother Marty McKenzie also an option at 10 for the Chiefs- so plenty of options and depth there, 

 Whoever they decide on will have to hit the ground running because the Chiefs face the Crusties first up...

 

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
10 Jan 2018, 10:55
#4
10 Jan 2018, 10:55#4

Not sure that Cips has put pen to paper yet and Goperth is nearing that stage wherw the workload will need ti be shared.


I believe Goperth is also taking up coaching aswell.


Awesome signings for Wasps and also maybe sheds some light on Haskels future with the club.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jan 2018, 13:46
#5
10 Jan 2018, 13:46#5

Sopoaga is a great loss for the Highlanders - the rest are really just earning their retirement package in Europe.  

NZ is being hit by the same problems SA face and we have the nasty habit of calling up BK club players to the Springbok team with the Club players failing badly all the time.    NZ should be happy thy have not reached that level yet.      

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
10 Jan 2018, 18:03
#6
10 Jan 2018, 18:03#6

...notso clevermike... yr confusing our two countries and our respective work ethics....Kiwis are fiercely competitive and go to Europe to compete...it's the Saffa that go there just for the pay check...

...many of the NZ players are also much younger than you may think and will still have a future in NZ rugby should they so wish to return once their two or three yr contracts are up...

whereas what is there for SA rugby players to return to ?...yr country is a basket case and last i heard the CC competition had also died...


  

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
10 Jan 2018, 21:51
#7
10 Jan 2018, 21:51#7
More top NZ players are leaving in their prime & this will hurt the ABs depth. In terms of the impact of Sopoaga, it will give McKenzie and Mo'unga a clear path to 10. Sopoaga had a really good boot so that may be missed. I agree Sopoaga will be really missed by the Highlanders.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jan 2018, 12:41
#8
11 Jan 2018, 12:41#8
Stephen Donald off the production line? Gosh, didn’t that happen when Zinzan Brooke was still playing?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Jan 2018, 18:00
#9
11 Jan 2018, 18:00#9
He’s been recycled Mozart. Surely this is in line with your appreciation of the more aged athlete?
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
11 Jan 2018, 22:19
#10
11 Jan 2018, 22:19#10

Lima def a big loss. Seeing they have developed him in that role for a few seasons now. I well say though. He is probably a bigger loss too the Landers then the Abs. Hanson has a world class Ten in Barrett. And now has to develop the next in line. Which well obviousley be Damian and Richie Mo'unga now. But the Landers really in trouble in the ten stakes in 2019. Probably have to recruit else where. Jordie is another one they could blood in at ten too. His kicking game is sublime. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jan 2018, 22:35
#11
11 Jan 2018, 22:35#11
JW I associate the term “aged” with a fine fillet at the Chicago Cut. When I think of Donald or his inspiration Morne I prefer the term “experienced”.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Jan 2018, 22:58
#12
11 Jan 2018, 22:58#12

I admire Donald, he was thrown on the scrap heap, fans derided him and yet when called on he delivered in the RWC. He still gets the most out of his body and is a decent players. Good luck to him.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Jan 2018, 00:28
#13
12 Jan 2018, 00:28#13
Agreed.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
13 Jan 2018, 06:41
#14
13 Jan 2018, 06:41#14

Stephen Donald? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaa!!!

He's a Morne Steyn type. A player without substance.

I guess one can only use what God gives you ... or hasn't given you.

Perhaps his talent lies elsewhere. Maybe as an administrator with a collar and tie. Let's face it ... rugby wasn't a strength of his.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 Jan 2018, 22:40
#15
21 Jan 2018, 22:40#15
Beaver was still good enough to kick the goal that made the difference in winning the 2011 RWC CC. You do recall that game don’t you? I seem to remember you bringing it up on the odd occasion....
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jan 2018, 09:44
#16
22 Jan 2018, 09:44#16

Moolaa 

That is exactly what Morne Steyn was capable of  and Donald was indeed a very average flyhalf . 

I never really rated Donald as a f lyhalf - so I must agree with CC here.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jan 2018, 13:18
#17
22 Jan 2018, 13:18#17

Donald was turned down - he could not pass the medical tests,

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