MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Aug 2018, 22:58#2
Plum you might analyse the 3 Bargie tries. There is a member who blames 2 of those tries on Louw. My take is a bit different:
1 The first try came from a penalty to the Beast. From the ensuing ruck a second penalty was awarded for collapsing. Louw stopped the first receiver who was driven back...but Sanchez sent a high ball, which Willie botched. He never jumped forward allowing the Bargie to assume the space.
The Boks defended a few close drives but over committed. When the ball came out Etzebeth was the defender who was 'on Sanchez'....but his path was impeded by 2 Bargie dummy runners, who were close to obstructing. Louw was further out and Dyantyi was coming across in cover.
Dyantyi could probably have got there....but assumed Sanchez was covered and continued to run across to help with the overlap Louw was defending.
Was the try Louw's fault?
2 The second Bargie try came as Kolisi made metres down the wing, but there was nobody to pick up the placed ball, but the Bargies. They came way with Malherbe between the passer and Matera the try scorer. But Malherbe explicably jumped up to prevent a non pass and then does his usual bellyflop.
Louw and Esterhosen chase without hope of getting there. Louw tries the only available thing....an ankle tap from 2 metres behind. But doesn't make contact.
Was that Louw'sfault.
3 Willemse is on.....and with the game safely won throws a long, poor pass which van Staaden can only touch. The Bargies race through for an intercept try. Potentially snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Was that Louw's fault?
These tries were the rub of the green, but to the extent you want to blame.....try one the most guilty party was Willie....try 2 Malherbe's belly flop gets my vote.....try 3 Willemse is obviously to blame.
But that's just me, perhaps you can throw some light on this.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Aug 2018, 23:04#3
On the positive side all of the ABs tries against the Ozzies were good but these can be seen in videos that are already available.
So, I would like to see some analysis of the try Naholo scored when Barrett did a cross field kick - was Naholo in front? The play starts at the 72.27 minute mark.
I am also interested in how Poco ck was contained in this game.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2018, 02:25#6
Wrong.....Louw was lined up on the left upright, Sanchez outside the right upright. Louwstarted out moving left to cover the players outside him. But corrected when he saw Sanchez wasn't going to be tackled and got to within two steps as Sanchez crossed the line.
Wrong also on the Matera try.....Matera never ran past Louw, although he did run past your man Malherbe who tripped over his own feet. Louw was two steps inside him and a step behind. His attempted ankle tap was the intelligent thing to do, he had no better chance to stop Matera than Esterhozen.
Is that all the arguments you have...how pathetically biased. It bears no resemblance to Youngs bamboozling Stephanie twice, when Stephanie was directly lined up on Youngs and bit both times on the dummy.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Aug 2018, 15:12#12
Pakie I don't think Malherbe had to make the tackle, just stay on his feet a few more steps cutting off the passing lane. The passer was going to be stopped by Mapimpi a few steps on, which would have arrested momentum.
Malherbe is a very slow bloke.....but he could have stayed in range for 3 or 4 steps.
My hypothesis is Malherbe doesn't bellyflop there is no try.....grist for your video mill.
20 Aug 2018, 15:32#13
Hahahahaha! Go to 1.16 on the video, and then keep a close eye on Malherbe. Then watch it until 1.22 again, and again, and again. Its gets funnier and funnier the more times you watch it.
He looks like the fat coordless kid that always gets picked last at school.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Aug 2018, 17:57#14
A bit embarrassing. What we aren't processing is the Bargie scrum is now a bit of a disaster. The Lions destroyed close to the same pack in the scrums. Granted Botta their loosehead against the Lions was on the bench not starting, but Chaparro Malherbe's opponent was also destroyed in that game.
Malherbe kept his feet in the scrums, but frankly didn't do as well as Dreyer against the same players.
