Vlag....

Dense, there's a cricket forum just below this in case you're too stupid to know . . . unless of course you have so little respect for your fellow posters that you don't actually care.

Either way, it seems you know even less about cricket than you do about rugby (which barely seems possible) so perhaps you should just shut up and read for the foreseeable future.

". . . listen sucker it's not fault that WP won . . . "

I have no idea what that sentence means.

I don't speak your fawning and hissing little Gollum-like language, Dense, but perhaps stick to it because . . . quite apart from the fact that I couldn't give a flying fig leaf what a nauseating and obsequious suck-up like you has to say about anything . . . there are some impressive on-line translators around these days.

Now be a good chap and post your cricket drivel on the cricket forum where it belongs. That's all. No need to start snivelling and feeling all sorry for yourself.

Run Denise run......keep it downhill, that way you can escape at speed!!  

 Nope Denny. I haven't, unfortunately. I did not really start taking a major interest in cricket until I went to the Army in '76 and even then I mostly followed domestic cricket. Was a big Transvaal fan back then, mainly because I liked Clive Rice and Co. N Tvl was a bit like the EP Kings in rugby, at this stage. They still played at Berea Park, in those days. It was only when the likes of Mandy Yachad, etc joined them that they started to  feature. I can remember one four day game (CC), at Berea Park, when N Tvl was in charge (for a change ) and they just needed a few runs. Yachad was batting and the umpires kept offering the light and they kept turning it down and eventually won the game.


I only started watching international cricket when they started the rebel tours. There were no TV in SA at the time, in any case. I can remember Sri Lanka were among the first when they just started. Then there were Kim Hughes' teams and English teams of Graham Gooch and one by Mike Gatting as well. There was also the West Indies side with the likes of Sylvester Clarke, Malcolm Marshall, Richie Richardson, etc who went to play for SA teams thereafter. After each of those tours, there were a few players who later came to play in SA as well. John Embury (spin bowler) played for WP. Rod McCurdy played for EP. Mike Haysman played for N Tvl. Kim Hughes, himself, later played for Natal.

 Boy, what a blast from the past. Mandy yachad was it Vlag?

 Yep. That was him. Craig Matthews was the one trying to get him out in the end in that match. Yachad was a NSM lootie at Army Headquarters at the time. I cannot remember who used to bat with him.

Funny... I was at N Tvl Command HQ and Eugene Munting was transferred as a clerk from Infantry school. He failed his medical and he really wanted to be an instructor in the infantry but he failed because of his back. He told them that it was BS and that there was nothing wrong. He told them: "I am a provincial cricket player for N Tvl, FFS" but they would not have any of it and reclassified him as G4K4 and sent him to N Tvl Command where he continued pl aying cricket for N Tvl.

I've never heard of Mandy Yachad and I didn't know that Kim Hughes played under the rebel banner. I am aware that Sylvester Clarke who was pretty ordinary by West Indian standards was playing in South Africa and I wasn't aware of Richie Richardson playing i there either. Malcom Marshall I guess would have been past his best by then.

Mandy Yachad played only one official match for SA but he was a very good provincial player. He also played international hockey for SA.

Kim Hughes led two rebel tours to SA.


I actually saw Richie Richardson playing for N Tvl at Centurion in the nineties. It was a day/night game between N Tvl and Boland, IIRC. Adrian Kuyper played in that game as well. I was invited along by a bunch of Southern Life brokers.


Malcolm Marshall was not really past his best when he played for Natal. He was quite a stalwart and great mentor for Polly, who always pays tribute to him and the role he played in his career. Two pieces on Polly and Marshall:

Shaun Pollock on Malcolm Marshall

Maco, my mentor

He started off as a faraway icon on a tape, and became a coach and more besides

And yet, most fascinatingly, amazingly really, his loss has echoed all around the world, volley upon volley of shock stabbing at friends and fans wherever the game is treasured. The internet, for example is jammed with messages and memories, and telephone lines have been on heat. Among the first calls I received were from Shaun Pollock, in Natal, South Africa, who attributes so much of his success to Malcolm; from Barry Richards, the great South African batsman, now living in Australia; from Martin Crowe, who called him "the finest opponent of them all - furious, but fair, and fantastic value in the bar"; and from Ian Botham, busy on his final walk raising millions of pounds for Leukaemia Research, who for once found himself virtually unable to speak, so sad was he not to say goodbye to "the skinny wimp from the Windies", as he loved to call him.

 Nope. Nitini played for Border. Marshall was with Natal. Marshall did not play any direct role with Ntini but Ntini did model his bowling on Marshall's bowling action.

Interesting....tx.  

 Desmond Haynes played for WP ..............

 Correct. I cannot remember where they all ended playing but there were quite a number, as I said.

Eldine Baptiste played for EP and Natal.
Otis Gibson played for Griquas and Border.
Alvin Kallicharan played for Transvaal and OFS.
Collis King - Natal
Brian Lara - Tvl

 The first game of cricket I ever saw was West Indies v Aus at the Gabba. Holding and Garner where playing and Clive LLoyd was captain. For a boy from the bush it was a real eye opener to see how far back the keeper stood. I just couldn't believe how fast they bowled. Lillie and Tommo were also bowling and I consider myself lucky to have seen such players going around. Those were the days. I had also never seen a turf pitch. We only ever played on concrete and for the rep matches a canvas cover was pegged over the concrete so we could use a leather six stitcher. I ran out onto the field after the fifty overs and was horrified by the pitch. I could not come to terms that people had to bat on such a cracked up, uneven surface.