Wallaby loss moves England to third in IRB ranking

The first placed New Zealand and second placed South Africa did not change position but strengthened their positions with victories over the Wallabies and Argentina's Pumas in the opening round of the Rugby championship.

While Australia paid a price for their 29-47 loss to New Zealand the result allowed England to break the southern hemisphere dominance of the top three.

The Wallabies could have climbed to second had they beaten New Zealand at ANZ Stadium, but the margin of defeat in Ewen McKenzie’s first game in charge sees them fall below England by just over three tenths of a rating point.

With South Africa unable to improve their rating despite overwhelming Argentina 73-13 in Soweto, New Zealand’s cushion at the top - a position they have occupied since 16 November 2009 - has grown to 4.52 rating points.

South Africa went into the match at FNB Stadium sitting eight places and 10.36 rating points above Los Pumas, which meant that regardless of the margin of victory it would not have any impact on their rating in second place.

The only other change in the latest IRB World Rankings sees Canada climb one place to 14th - swapping place with Japan - after their 27-9 victory over USA in the first leg of the Rugby World Cup 2015 qualifier to determine the Americas 1 side at England 2015.

Canada now lie just under a point behind Fiji above them going into the second leg in Toronto this weekend, while despite the heavy loss on home soil, the USA Eagles remain 18th and still have a cushion of nearly three points over Russia below.

"With South Africa unable to improve their rating despite overwhelming Argentina 73-13 in Soweto, New Zealand’s cushion at the top - a position they have occupied since 16 November 2009 - has grown to 4.52 rating points."

If we were chest-beating as someone on this site claims then it would be understandable because a team recently beat Argies & a few of their fans have been hyper ventilating ever since. But we have been humble kiwis who respect their team and honour a win.

Tes, most nations would be chest-beating if they could achieve this record, eg. Poms , Oz & maybe even the mighty Boks but not us, we are  just trying to get better each week and also  improve our depth.

Come on Beeno1, we know you are nervous about the ABs but be strong & let us have your counter arguments.We are laughing in anticipation, 

Where is the logic ?

The IRB World Rankings are calculated using a 'Points Exchange' system, in which sides take points off each other based on the match result. Whatever one side gains, the other loses.

The exchanges are based on the match result, the relative strength of each team, and the margin of victory, and there is an allowance for home advantage.

Points exchanges are doubled during the World Cup Finals to recognise the unique importance of this event, but all other full international matches are treated the same, to be as fair as possible to countries playing a different mix of friendly and competitive matches across the world.

Any match that is not a full international between two member countries does not count at all.

All member countries have a rating, typically between 0 and 100. The top side in the world will normally have a rating above 90.
 

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Yeah … ol Porkie Pig had much to say about whom he’d pick … then when push came to shove he ended up benching the useless Cooper anyway … so much for that.

He’s playing O’Connor out of position … Folau is being taken out of the game by smart All Black play … Mogg isn’t doing it at all in the 15 jersey … while Toomua has shown he’s not a test 10. His backline is a disaster.

Now I see Old Porkie’s threatening his boys. He stuffs up with team selections and blames his boys for the result..

What an ass!!!

I guess he must be feeling a little stupid after all the talk about beating the All blacks and bringing the cup back to ozzie shores.

Think they shoulda left Deans in charge.

Can anyone find out how many points Wales gained by beating England handsomely in the final game of 6 nations. This was an all or nothing game and played at Twickenham. If i remember correctly they had to win by 7 and won by 20.

I am not a Wales pusher but love their brand of Rugby (aka Cheetahs styleeeee), they supplied most of the Lions whom out played the Aussies (i know this does not count for ranking points) but Wales did well at the RWC and won the 6 nations. To be below France (wooden spooners) and England is just a farce.

As the IRB almost admits, the system is not ideal (meaning is not a fair reflection). Then find a solution to your crap on offer.