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Wasps: No Bad Blood With Willie Or Boks

Started by Augenöffner9 REPLIES640 VIEWS· 09 Oct 2018, 13:22
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Oct 2018, 13:22
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09 Oct 2018, 13:22#1

Cape Town - Wasps director of rugby Dai Young says there is no bad blood with fullback Willie le Roux or Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus.

Le Roux's playing time for Wasps this season has been limited because of his involvement with the Springboks in their Rugby Championship campaign. 

Young admits that he expected to have Le Roux available for at least some of the Rugby Championship, but instead the 29-year-old started all six fixtures in the tournament. 

In the process, Le Roux has cemented his place as South Africa's first-choice fullback and he will wear the No 15 jersey at next year's World Cup in Japan. 

It would have been a frustrating time for Young and the Wasps management, especially given the fact that Le Roux is in his last year with the club.

"I want to make it clear that no one broke any trust or created any animosity. We didn’t know how many games he was going to play and the situation was something we had not planned for.," Young told Rugby Pass in an exclusive interview.

"Rassie wasn’t going to be ringing me up and saying 'this is my team for next week' and why should he, which meant there was an unknown factor and Willie didn’t know if he would be involved for two, four or six games.

"We had no real direct contact with South Africa and it was through the player. The reality of it is that Willie thought his international career was over but there was a change of regime and Rassie made it clear he wanted him back in. That was something we hadn’t accounted for because we didn’t expect him to be playing in the Rugby Championship or involved in the November tour by the Springboks.

"There hasn’t been a break down between Wasps, the player or South Africa and there isn’t any bad feeling."

Young added that he would be sitting down with Le Roux to discuss the player's club future beyong the World Cup.

by Sports24

Still no word about his availability for the EOYT. One would presume Rassie will play Willemse at fullback in the event that Willie is unavailable. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2018, 13:33
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09 Oct 2018, 13:33#2

AO

Go and read the rules of WR on test windows and find the answer.   Clubs cannot overrule the rules of WR and I gave a summary of the situation.

Young did not comment on the EOYT matches since he knows that he has no legal ground to stand on 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Oct 2018, 13:43
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09 Oct 2018, 13:43#3

The England test does indeed fall outside the window. The other three tests don't. We still don't know what the arrangements are. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2018, 14:06
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09 Oct 2018, 14:06#4

Normally the tests falling on 10, 17 and 24 November 2018 will be in the test window.  

As I have it the tests are as follows:-

3 November   =   England (not in the test window)

10 November =   France

17 November  =   Scotland

24 November  =   Wales

The England test will have to be played without the Club players,  England may have to play with some clubs refusing to release players - how they deal with that is their problem.   If there are any English players playing for French clubs - they will also not be released.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
09 Oct 2018, 14:46
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09 Oct 2018, 14:46#5
Bizarrely, it does seem that the first test is outside the test window. However, I expect all the English players will be available for this test ....
What a joke the IRB are-

The UK/French clubs are clearly putting pressure on their SA players to not be available, even when it is during the test window. (The Japanese are the best at doing this).
Duane Vermeulen was offered a reduced contract at Toulon if he wanted to play for the Boks, by the French Toulon owner.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Oct 2018, 14:49
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09 Oct 2018, 14:49#6

It's perfectly understandable. If they want the money, they must play. Why would you want to pay someone who won't be available? It's not an easy situation to resolve. A better global calendar could help a lot. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Oct 2018, 17:11
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09 Oct 2018, 17:11#7

Last year the Wales test were outside the test window too. 

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
09 Oct 2018, 19:01
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09 Oct 2018, 19:01#8

, I expect all the English players will be available for this test ....


Very likely for all EN players who take pride in the shirt (not all of them do)

That is why EN players will be available because they make themselves available.

Still way more than SA players who have no pride in the shirt. SA players decline their selection. They want their grub.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
09 Oct 2018, 20:57
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09 Oct 2018, 20:57#9
It is understandable, but the rules are the rules. If you sign an international standard player, the risk is that they will not be available all of the season.
Why should an international miss elite test games, to play in a pub team- even if the salary is higher due to currency conversion. 

A global season is certainly the answer, the pub teams must realise that test rugby takes precedence. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Oct 2018, 21:21
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09 Oct 2018, 21:21#10

POOR TRAD GOT SUCKERED!!!!

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