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Waste of time Hougaard retires!

Started by Chippo16 REPLIES648 VIEWS· 20 Apr 2018, 09:57
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
20 Apr 2018, 09:57
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20 Apr 2018, 09:57#1

Springbok scrumhalf Francois Hougaard has called time on his international career with immediate effect.


The player that was supposed to be Fourie du Preez heir apparent, who plays for English club Worcester Warriors, played 46 Tests for the Boks between 2009 and 2017. He was utterly useless in the green and gold.


To date, only Pierre Spies has contributed less to the Springbok jersey.


Worcester’s director of rugby Alan Solomons confirmed Hougaard’s decision and said it was a “major boost” for the club.

“It means he won’t be going away for international duty,” Solomons told the Worcester News website.

“Francois had mentioned it (retiring from international rugby) and that’s his decision at the end of the day. He was contemplating focusing the rest of his career at Worcester.

“He is very happy here and I know that he is doing a business course as well for life after rugby which you have got to be prepared for.”

Hougaard recently signed a new contract that will keep him at the Worcester Warriors until 2021.

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sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
20 Apr 2018, 11:57
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20 Apr 2018, 11:57#2
Horribly exposed on slow pitches, and showed no authority at the ruck, turning his whole team into basket cases. He was a decent impact player of the bench when the game opened up- but at the end of the day he is a small wing, with a poor pass.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Apr 2018, 14:07
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20 Apr 2018, 14:07#3

Totally over rated ...

No kicking game ... couldn't pass to his right, unless he flipped around ... poor reader of what unfolded before him ... but he was rather strong on defense and had a bit of pace.

He should never have been made a Bok.

I think he knows all to well that he would never feature in Rassie's plans.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Apr 2018, 22:51
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20 Apr 2018, 22:51#4
One of Dave's conviction picks.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Apr 2018, 03:02
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21 Apr 2018, 03:02#5

Ja, another one of Dawie's class acts lands in the trash heap and after watching that poor apology of a flyhalf Jantjies, another of his class acts, one has to wonder how anyone can get it so wrong so often. He normally finds an excuse or blames the coach.....


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2018, 03:36
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21 Apr 2018, 03:36#6
Dave comes on here telling us he is offended by our questioning of some of the players he champions....but never mentions Hougaard, Taute, JJ, Jantjies, Marcel van der Merwe, Chili, Spies etc. All of whom were supposed to be legends by now according to Dave.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Apr 2018, 03:56
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21 Apr 2018, 03:56#7

The only time the clueless Coetzee got it right is when he dissed Hougaar d....does that mean Coetzee knows more about rugby than ou Dawie? 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2018, 06:00
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21 Apr 2018, 06:00#8

Like all of us Dave has made poor selections and has some blind spots with regard to players.   He over=-emphasize youthful players as against the aged duds Mozart over-emphasizes.

So there is a point - not all good under 20 players mature further into top class players and Dave makes the mistake of thinking they would.   That is complicated by dud coaches coaching flair and skills out of players through poor and unacceptable game plans and selection criteria.

Mozart and his supporters flatly refuse to accept that decline I'm performances set in with age - some turning into duds earlier than others.   That is also a mistake - these players are not only becoming poor performers - they cannot learn anything new.   That is anytime as big a mistake as those made by Dave.

Squad development is important and that is where our coaches in the past generally failed and have caused the present serious problems.     I differ from Dave in many cases - but agree with him in the cases of some players.   Hougaard and Jantjies are just two of those.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2018, 06:05
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21 Apr 2018, 06:05#9
You agree with Dave about Hougaard and Jantjies? Gosh you are a dark horse Tokkie. Den in a rugby contest between Coetzee and Dave, I would have to pick Plumtree.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2018, 06:11
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21 Apr 2018, 06:11#10

I never said that and you are too dim to realize it,   I disagree with Dave about Hougaard and Jantjies and have said that for years,  There are other players I disagree with him as well - nut to say he is always wrong is simplistic and as bad as people advocating reputation selection as against performance-based selection.    

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Apr 2018, 07:44
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21 Apr 2018, 07:44#11

Yes ... it is true that we've all fancied a dud at one time or another.

In some cases we've even down played the brilliance of some obvious class acts ... albeit to ruffle the feathers of one of our fellow poster ... for the hell of it ... and .. other times we've accidentally exposed our total ignorance. Right, Mike??

Dave had the natural ability to pick more duds out of the pack then anyone else I know. From Coenie to Lomp ... Kolisi to HouGat ... Jantjies to De Allende ... Jesse Kriel to JJ ... and the list just goes on and on.

Of course he's going to blame the board and it's members for his own lack of understanding. Coming clean and confessing one's utter ignorance would be reason enough to leave. He chose to bow out gracefully.

It's a hell of a thing to not know that you don't know ... right, Mike? Blaming the coaches for a misfiring player seems to be one of the many things you have in common with our friend Dave.

Never mind ... stick around here and we'll guide you to a proper understanding of the sport.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Apr 2018, 08:24
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21 Apr 2018, 08:24#12

"Den in a rugby contest between Coetzee and Dave, I would have to pick Plumtree."

Are you saying that Plumtree was more clueless than Coetzee? ....find that hard to believe. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2018, 14:53
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21 Apr 2018, 14:53#13
No I could have said Destroyli....mostly any third party would make that statement a truism.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2018, 15:23
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21 Apr 2018, 15:23#14

Mozart

Your total ignorance about rugby continues to amaze me.   The most clueless coaches we eve had was Coetzee, followed by De Villiers and Meyer,    I think Meyer would come second in the selection of duds in the Springbok team.   And because of your support of the duds he picked and contstant attacks on soime of the younger players - you are a dud too.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Apr 2018, 19:01
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21 Apr 2018, 19:01#15

Mike ... you should really think of a name change ... "clevermike" is far too flattering ...

How did you ever come up with that absurdity? Did you select it to impress others?

Well ... I can tell you that it hasn't worked. You are about as thick as they come.

May I make a suggestion?

How about "ShitForBrainsTokkie"?

Has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2018, 20:25
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21 Apr 2018, 20:25#16

Well - I think - I consider options and come up with potential solutions,  I do not suggest players on the basis of prejudice and I always endeavor to give reasons whenever I deal with players I provide reasons for what I wrote when it comes to rugby.  

I think that calling a player a "weed" purely based on personal prejudice shows sheer inability to think logically.

So let agree to keep discussions on a friendly basis and to disagree whenever it is necessary.  

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
22 Apr 2018, 03:14
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22 Apr 2018, 03:14#17

The most clueless coaches we' ve had was Coetzee, followed by De Villiers and Meyer."

Nope, the most clueless coaches were Harry Viljoen, Rudolph Straueli( who had a squad of more than all of Dawie's combined lists...think it numbered just over 100 players),  then add Coetzee, Meyer and Oom Piet.

Kamp Staaldraad has to be the most innovative embarrassment in the history of the Boks, it perfectly sums up Straueli to be the most clueless of coaches. Oom Piet further embarrassed the Boks every time he exercised his mouth but fortunately he had one functional brain cell to allow the Boks to coach themselves.

We now know that these guys did not know.....period.

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