Watched that game again

Better perspective watching it without the tension and emotion

We were good in the first half for most parts

We showed some good attacking intent with backs and forwards combining well, with crisp quick passing to spread it.

What stood out for me is the bullet pass Sacha has on him, wow it’s another weapon. We need centres drifting into space with Sacha whipping those passes out off both hands - really impressive

Good mini break and hand off by de Allende to set up the Willemse try which also included a great pass by Sacha

Reinach was piss poor, caught at the base, knock ons and some poor box kicking

Great worked try by Sacha in the second half which should have been followed up by another two - one when we were turned over on their line, the other with Wiese running off a line out close to their line and being held up - those moments lost - tries there and it was game over

Again about 10 min later we are deep in their 22 and Kwagga on the charge gets turned over a metre from their line line

So many missed opportunities - another follows shortly after this where we are attacking deep, with a good set up out wide to PSDT, brought back and ending with a great Wilco charge and a RG offload to Reinach who knocks it on

That is followed by Jessie’s charge for the line after a scrum and being held up - piss poor by Jessie given Libbok was on his outside with no defender in front of him.

All those scrums on their line lead to nothing. We have the Libbok hesitation that ends up being a penalty and a line out close to the line, where powder puff Nortje gets owned on the charge ending in Kwagga fumbling and Reinach knocking it on.

The Moodie kick through and oh so close in the in goal area, followed by an almost Kolbe kick through interception.

Fucking hell we should have put another 30 points on them in the second half - really poor execution and decisions made given all the advantage we had. Eight opportunities missed to score tries in that second half with zero return

"So many missed opportunities “

"That is followed by Jessie’s charge for the line after a scrum and being held up - piss poor by Jessie given Libbok was on his outside with no defender in front of him."

"All those scrums on their line lead to nothing"

"Fucking hell we should have put another 30 points on them in the second half - really poor execution and decisions made given all the advantage we had. Eight opportunities missed to score tries in that second half with zero return"

// A-Fucking-Men Brother Dave!!

Oh no Dave, you've become one of the mamparas. How dare you air criticisms in the best Bok era ever. Just shut up and enjoy the win.

And then go listen to Random Youtube Pundit #8 talk about how great the Boks is and have your folly exposed. Then come back here and apologise to all the Thought Controllers for daring to stray from the path they set for us all.

It’s criticisms aimed at our execution and composure in the second half - not at how great this side is or how great our coach is - that all holds true - more so now than ever

For me we could not claim to be this great side unless we beat Ireland on Saturday in order to turn the tide on our historical performances against them under Rassie. We needed that victory to cement what we already know. This side is one of the best rugby sides ever, coached by [search: benefits of a micro penis] one of the best coaches ever.

Sending on Wilco and Steenkamp just before halftime to secure that penalty try is testament to the rugby genius that Rassie is

Great sides win ugly - we did that against Ireland when we needed it most. On a better day we would have converted at least 4 of those missed 8 try scoring opportunities and rejoiced in style, but instead we rejoice with a sense of relief and confirmation that we are an awesome side with room for improvement

Credit to the Irish for the dog in them, keeping us out like they did and as we did in those last 3min of the game. They made it a contest and did what we did to France and Italy with men down, except it was against our mighty Boks who held and kept the edge

Hello doos

Absolutely agree on the different perspective without the game-day stress!

Sacha's bullet pass is a weapon! That's the biggest takeaway for me. It's unlocking completely new lines of attack, and I think we'll see the centres and wings learn to anticipate and use that speed more and more.

While the missed chances were painful to watch—and you're spot on about us leaving 30 points out there—it's encouraging to know we are creating that many chances against a team like Ireland! The structures are working, the intent is there, and the physical dominance (especially those scrums) was clear.

Better to win ugly with an 8-try potential than not win at all. The coaches will be focusing on those small margins, and I'm confident the finishing will come good soon!

Spot on brother doos

Better to score the 8 tries….that’s what the great AB sides did. We are still a great pack, probably the greatest ever, looking for a fetcher to speed up play and a backline that functions.

We don’t need a fetcher we have Marx, Wiese, Ox and Thomas doing that. Kolisi plays a good ball in hand game but he is getting on - Hanekom could fill the 6 role and take it to new heights

Our backline has been fine - the addition of Sacha is a revelation but we do need to move on from de Allende and Jessie at centre and Reinach at 9

Thankfully we have candidates to burn - it’s a case of who is best placed to take over with Willemse being the only certainty at 12 in the equation of 9, 12 and 13 to fill

The great AB sides also had off days - had the Bok side been on song as they were in that second AB test, most of those 8 missed opportunities would have been taken

They don’t fetch out wide, that’s a flanks job and that’s what gives you fast ball, vs penalties on oppo ball.. Our backline is fine when there’s space, we can’t create space. Sacha has been incredibly effective individually, he still needs to evolve patterns which unlock space, like the Sexton wrap around. Manie tries to do this, but those long floated passes can lose games…like Australia this year.

Disagree flanks hardly find themselves out wide and our backline creates just as much space as any other backlines out there but we do have to potential to take that to the next level with Willemse at 12 and X at 13

Thanks Dave sobering view on how we failed to capitalise. However, I think the players got white line fever and also the message to boks got to stuff them up. I don’t think Rassie was going for jugular. This could have been a 50 point game.

I think Jessie has gone backwards this season. Time to stick with Moodie at 13.

I think this is what so frustrating, it was there and the guys could simply not look at the space wide.

ypu have the advantage, use Wiese and co cut inside, run 3 phases or so and then get Willemse to join the like he did against New Zealand.

anyway, wales up next before July next year. What a season

Yes it’s strange what cards do to sides

Against France and Italy we were down a player - that served to heighten our resolve to dig deep and take the fight to them

Against Ireland, they were down players and that brought out the dog in them to hang in there. It served to distract us - we lost the patience to execute with precision

Yep, the Irish showed some excellent goaline defence ... had me w.t.f, ing more than once.

Mampara Pakster how about you stop playing the victim. You have been making absurd anti Bok, anti Rassie calls for years a la Mozzietard.

Read Dave's post very carefully and learn.

You are just fed up and deeply embartassed about being called out.

Nobody is stopping you making an ass of yourself so please feel free. There are no thought police here loon.

Read Dave's post very carefully and learn.

The post pointing out much the same things I did?

Kriel's distribution folly

The bunch of scrum resets yielding no reward

The missed opportunities

The points left on the table

Reinach being poor which I called in the live thread already while watching on a phone

DDA's break which I also praised on the live thread

What do you want me to find there that I haven't already opined myself? You're trying very hard Beeno, but for all the ridicule and the poorly disguised attempts at cheap manipulation you're just ending up looking a bit desperate.

Go on then, dig up another internet top player list or random Youtube couch pundit spouting whatever you agree with. That will really put the knife in, I'm sure.

"The bunch of scrum resets yielding no reward"

Depends on what yardstick you use to measure the reward...there are more things in a rugby match than scoreboard only...

Sure Draad but fuck me we should have scored more tries

I would have preferred a 50-13 scoreline which it should have been

But I’ll take the 24-13

Only the scoreboard wins you the game. Even Rassie in the post match conference said he was concerned about the Irish scoring in the last few minutes. We must guard against arrogance. That's what lost us the Aussie test this year - we had ample opportunities, breached their 22 effortlessly, couldn't take our opportunities because we played like the win was a given. We lost the second half against the Irish despite scrumming them to death.

I don't understand this attitude of apparently celebrating all the points we left on the park. That should be a concern, not a comfort.

What you should learn Mampara Pakster is that although Dave doesn't agree with everything Rassie does he recognizes him as a great coach and Dave admits he could be wrong at times.

I also don't agree with all Rassie does but it is clear he is the best coach in World rugby and one of our greatest ever. I like Dave realize when I don't agree with something Rassie dies I could be wrong. It's all about respect.

We are sitting watching rugby miles away with no idea of what is happening in the camp. Neither if we are honest for a second could we posdibly think our rugby knowledge is greater than Rassie.

Yes it's the contempt shown towards our coach. The never ending attempts to belittle his achievements are a disgrace perpetrated by nutjobs that vastly overestimate their ability.

Could you imagine if a duffer like Mozzietard or any other Mampara was Bokcoach. Hahahahaha. What a thought.

Show some respect loons and you will be treated with respect..

Mock and belittle our coach and players in such a disrespectful and unrelenting ways and you will be mocked in return.

The is a Bok rugby forum and the Mamparas Union are a disgrace. Thoughtful analysis. Bwahahahahaha what a joke.

Point being, their weaker scrum got hammered by scrumming a few times in a row. It tires their pack, risk penalty tries and yellows...and generally make their packs work more...and bringing Wilco on vs a tired pack totally demoralizes the team...even if we don't score immediately after the scrums, the gaps open up eventually...Saturday we got a bit of white line fever and the ref felt bad for them in the second half..., they should have gotten a few more cards...our time will come against them...next time will be totally different when the monkey is off our backs.

If Dr Lucky was coaching Ireland they wouldn't win the big games… just like Munster didn’t. Best talent pool by a mile

I don't believe in if anymore...

As is verbrande hout...

As die hond nie geskyt het nie, het hy die haas gevang...

Rassie Erasmus did not win any major trophies as a head coach with Munster Rugby, but he had significant success with the team, leading them to two PRO12 finals and one Champions Cup semi-final during his tenure. He was named the PRO12 Coach of the Season in 2017 and is credited with a high winning percentage for the team.

Ad the few Currie cups, Super Rugby finals and RWCs...best coach we ever had, you're just too stubborn to even see it.

Bullshit Moz - Rassie would be wining games like Schmidt did with them.

What the current Irish sides performances is showing, is that the coach matters. Farrelll is not as good as Schmidt

Rassie Erasmus did not win any major trophies as a head coach with Munster Rugby, but he had significant success with the team, leading them to two PRO12 finals

kinda like Jake White did with the Bools?

Erasmus is a forward coach only for him to be successful you need great forward resources .. he would be average with Ireland and clueless with Australia

Titles are not the only defining measure of a coach - every Munster player and supporter credits Rassie with turning them into a formidable side

Bullshit is Rassie only a forwards coach, that’s some bullshit narrative you’ve concocted.

You don’t achieve his success being limited to one aspect of the game and what the Boks achieve is not down to him alone - he has a whole band of helpers. Forwards coach, scrum coach, defence coach, attacks coach etc

Rassie strength is getting all the parts buying into his winning formula. His player management is outstanding, the players trust and love him.

What he brings individually in terms of coaching, tactics, calls, selections etc, we will never know as we are not part of the set up or privy to its workings

What we do know is that whatever Rassie is doing is fucking brilliant as it sure as hell is working

Anyone questioning his credentials right now is literally a fucking idiot which I know you are not.

Your misdirected dislike of the guy, which to be honest makes absolutely no sense at all - clouds your reality and defines the weakest take on the credentials of a coach I have ever witnessed.

You would gain so much respect if you just admitted how wrong you are about Rassie but we know pigs don’t fly :)

You're wasting your time...the so called free thinker has closed off his mind 7 years ago...