Watching the Welsh semi again....

I have just got to the part where Lomp is  out jumped by the Welsh loosie and the commentator notes that it was the Boks' first lineout loss on own ball at the WC. Makes one think that the Lomp injury, regrettable as it was at the time, was crucial to the Boks' victory. Mostert was massive in the goal line stand that turned the game.

It reminds one of the Iliad and the divine intervention by Poseidon helping Ajax the Great, al so known as Telamonian Ajax.The Gods looking down from Mount Fuji and picking a winner.

The Welsh snippyness was also very apparent....the crowd laughing as their lock went head to head with Faf ......unnecessary shoving of Mapimpi and Am by the Welsh wings, who were just nasty

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Our chaps were notably clean but aggressive in a legal sense. Bok rugby....glad we rediscovered our traditions.

Moz, this is aan improverment.

The lasrt time you watched a semi till the end, over and over again was on pornhub.

Mozart

Are you certain it was De Jager and not Etzebeth that was outjumped in that case?   Please check you whole story is BS anyway - in your heading you refer to the semi-final - not the final.   Your whole story was about the final. 

Kindly clear up what you wrote, and you only quote Mostert in the goal line defense leaving out other players who even had a bigger role than Mostert in that myth of yours, 

LMAO            

Nah that be Wankermike.

Nobody, had a bigger role in the goal line defence and it was Lomp who lost our first lineout.

Mozart

I saw that first line-out loss = the ball went to the front of  the line-out where Etzebeth normally jumps.  I will watch the test again - you have lied so many tomes as to what happened in games that I have to check that one again.

As to Mostert's  defense he did make 7 tackles missing 1 - De Jager made 13 tackles missing NONE and Du Toit made 19 tackles missing 2,   Not all that big defensive game by Mostert tos ingle him out for defense.     

Wankermike.....here are the ESPN tackling stats. Stop talking about others lying when you are a torrent of lies.

And it was Lomp who was beaten in the lineout.

And it was Mostert who gave away a silly penalty right after the De Alende try...it gave Wales the field position to score a soft try to negate the Bok try. He did some good things after that brainfart, but if we are going to start nitpicking for individual stand alone errors, that was probably one of the worst. 

This heading got me baffled - "Watching the Welsh semi again"- and then wrote what happened in the final and now quoting the stats of the final is what is made for frustrating other members  through rank idiocy/ .  

This heading got me baffled - "Watching the Welsh semi again"- and then wrote what happened in the final and now quoting the stats of the final is what is made for frustrating other members  through rank idiocy/ .  

Lekker luck............same could be said about '95, were the French robbed in Dirtbin?  ..... ditto '07 .

Gosh and there I was thinking  it was Mandela!

When I saw him in the trui, I thought nooit, there's no way we losing today.

Mozart

Please what test are you dealing with?    You made a statement about the lost line -out missed by the Springboks and at the time wonder whom you would blame for the missed line-out, and after more than  a month later you tell us not the lost line-out was caused by De Jager   Still wonder why I queried your statement,

As to Mostert - he does not have the physical strength of the other locks and not the ball sense and speed of Du Toit so your praise-singing is just about worthless,       

A lost lion-out? They really should keep those things securely caged.

They ran Dud Allende at Biggar whose tackling was beyond pathetic....almost cowardly. Odd for a man who is fearless under the high ball.

Then the following week, Jones selects Ford at flyhalf and has no apparent plan to protect him against a tactic that was so obviously in the Bok scheme.

Eddie has been a little criticized for his coaching miss....but actually he got off easy. The Boks were an open book and Eddie never made one adjustment tactically to exploit them. It was almost as if he felt the Poms could simply play their game and dominate. 

For example it took him an age to make an adjustment to the Pom scrum which was much better after Marler replaced Vunipola. The players were not sharp from the outset....witness the Lawes penalty.

 And there was nothing new for the Bok game ....not one little tactical nuance. No plan to exploit Dud Toit's lack of mobility as the Welsh did in their try

But mostly it was the timidity to make changes that underlines this worst coaching performance at the WC. England had a very good team.

Allende is just the latest crash ball Springbok...can't step, can't pass, can't offload, can't see the field. He suited a narrow game plan  and ended up with Biggar and Ford to target.

Dud Toit is a failed lock, who tries hard. 

What can I say, these guys have huge flaws....but in the narrow game we played they weren't exposed. 

Duplication.  

Mozart has his own ideas about players and he believes it does not need to be the truth as to what he writes.  In his above writing he has lied twice about the Welsh try being the result of Du Toit  and it was clear  and that he believes the board members would accept the lie if he repeats is enough times.   To explain he said that Du Toit if he was faster could prevent the try by thwe wing.  When he was caught out talking his normal BS - he said that Du Toit should have prevented the   Welsh scrummie from making the pass.   He lied because there were tow players between Du Toi and the scrummie concerned - namely Moriarty and De Klerk.  It would have been physically impossible for Du Toit to get to the scrummie anyway,

He has been attacking De Allende for 5 years now and in the process lied constantly about him as well.   He started off with a Super Rugby game where De Jongh did not even attempt a tackle on Kuridrani.  De Allende had to come from the inside to attempt a tackle n Kuridrani.   He technically missed the tackle - but became so destabilized that he lost possession in the process.  The possession loss was left out of the BS Mozart spouted.

The story about the failed lock is an outright lie as well.   Erasmus specifically asked that the Stormers used Du Toit at 7 - since he lock situation could be filled by Etzebeth, De Jager and Snyman.   It had nothing to do with a failed lock and everything to do about Erasmus being worried about selecting a player like Du Toit at 7.  Erasmus requested that the Lions dd the same with Mostert.   After about 3 matches the Lions informed Erasmus that Mostert is incapable of playing at 7 - and he returned to play at lock.   Du Toit was retained at 7 and in that position and selected by 8 international experts became the Player of the Year of 2019.   

The last story about the "narrow game the Springboks play"  is not a lie - it is just an idiotic statement on something he knows zero about.   "The Boks were an open book and Eddie never made one adjustment tactically to exploit them. It was almost as if he felt the Poms could simply play their game and dominate."        I cannot believe that any same rugby spectator would write that without being clearly a know-nothing about rugby.   He came with the same BS before.   When he was asked about what changes Jones could make it was clear he was talking BS again. 

First of all when he brought on Slade - according to Mozart the best center n the world - and moved Farrell to flyhalf the backline performance of the English team did not improve at all,  So what should Jones should have done in the English game - Erasmus would have known what to do and change his own approach,   Anyway I rather believe what experts say about players instead of the biased BS Mozart comes up on site.

Mozart

How many tries have Frans Steyn scored in his 67 tests?   

By the way whatever real experts say about players and especially present and previous players say about players count for nothing p the BS you come up with is what counts.  Keep it up - you are providing some really entertaining delusions you call "theories" . LMAO          

Mozart

How many tries have Frans Steyn scored in his 67 tests?   

By the way whatever real experts say about players and especially present and previous players say about players count for nothing p the BS you come up with is what counts.  Keep it up - you are providing some really entertaining delusions you call "theories" . LMAO          

'Know how many games Frans started at centre? ....22.

Know how many times he was a reserve.....27!

Know how many tries he scored as a reserve....1!

So know how many tries he scored as  a centre....5

That's 5 tries in 22 games as a starting centre vs Allende's 6 tries in 46 games. But hold on Allende didn't start all those games...he actually only started at centre in 38 games. 

So if Frans played 26 games at his scoring rate ....he would have had his 6 tries. A rate of scoring which is 50% better than Dud Allende.'

Think you two muppets have lost another argument......you betcha!

Waaaaaaaaahahahaha.....look up 'ceteris paribus'. And thanks for making my argument for me.

Stick with moz, but even if you don't....never argue with moz.

How come his profile said Steyn played in 67 tests and you said it was 47? 

Steyn regularly played test rugby from 2007 to 2012 - whether starting or on the bench for six years and some games in the WC series this year,   That makes for a total of 78 tests he could potentially have played in on the following basis:-

How many tests did de Allende start? 

How many tests was he on the bench?

Now lets get back to facts,   Did Steyn ever score a try against any of the top 4 ranked teams?

You carry on about line breaks and tractoring?  There was one case where for a season playing at center made 2 line breaks in Super 15 and i n the process beat 8 defenders,  It happened to be in the 8 games he played at center - not where he played as flyhalf.   In the same year De Allende made 27 line breaks and beat 73 defenders in the 16 games he played in.  So if De Allende was "tractoring" what the hell was Steyn doing?   He was not even able to "tractor" - he was known more for possession losses and being penalized than any other player in Super Rugby ever was - 46 such losses in one season.   All along you advocated the selection of Steyn ahead of selection.   Who was the most effective crashballer -  Steyn or De Allende.

The problem with players like Pollard, Le Roux and De Allende always was that the so-called game plans of Meyer and Coetzee was detrimental to the scoring of tries and caused centers to look bad from a try-scoring perspective.   Even when tries were scored under those two coaches it mostly stemmed  from individual players like Habana, 

Under Erasmus it was a different proposition totally and now the centers started to score tries as well.