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WC Quarter Final Predictions

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sharkbokCaptain23,222 posts
07 Oct 2023, 21:40
#1
07 Oct 2023, 21:40#1

Quarter 1: France vs South Africa
France by 7.

I have to say that France is the favourite, however, if the Boks get their selections and combinations right - and the players have a good day - they could beat France

Messing around with the likes of Kriel, Delande - and perhaps even Pollard is not going to do it.
Pollard made his kicks, but he hardly set the world alight- so I am dubious about him starting - other than pole kicking.

The backline improved as soon as Libbok replaced Pollard. Ideally, Libock starts and Pollard is on the bench if his kicking is not good. I think if it is close, the Boks could pull away with the bench in the 2nd half.


Quarter 2: Ireland vs All Blacks
Ireland by 8

I have to say that Ireland is the favourite, but if the All-Black forwards can get 50% of possession, I think the All-Blacks will win. Retalick is the key man. The All-Black pack has looked better with him back, and Frizzel is also bringing physicality to the back row.

Quarter 3: Wales vs Argentina

Wales by 6. 
Wales are playing better than what they have in a few years. Gatland is getting the best out of them. Dont, think Wales will beat any of the big 4, but they should cruise past Argentina. 

Quarter 4:England vs Fiji

England by 7
The England forward pack should be too much. However, England's backline was dismal last week, so some new combinations are needed. 

If the Boks and New Zealand get knocked out, it will be the first time a Southern Hemisphere team has not gotten past the quarters.

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
07 Oct 2023, 21:51
#2
07 Oct 2023, 21:51#2

Libbok hasn't had one good test. He is abysmal in all phases of the game. We can talk selections, but the coaching is some of the worst I've ever seen! The newest gimmick is speed to "do stuff". It still remains the worst prepared and least capable Bok side in a WC. That's saying a lot. Because we were very poor throughout 2019!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2023, 03:06
#3
08 Oct 2023, 03:06#3

Libbok vs Ireland….4 tackles made/ 3 missed

Libbok vs Scotland…4 tackles made / 3 missed

Kick percentage made vs Scotland 43%

Kick percentage made vs Ireland 20%

….

Now I know Libbok didn’t take all those kicks, but if he kicked competently he would have . 

Those are WC losing stats. 


BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
08 Oct 2023, 03:34
#4
08 Oct 2023, 03:34#4

Ireland toured NZ last year so the ABs know exactly whats comin' at em ........... NZ by7

I know sweet f.a about the French. I pick Pollard & I scheme Rassie will stick with DDA & JK ........... i'm more concerned about the battle up front, the breakdown stoush.

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Oct 2023, 03:39
#5
08 Oct 2023, 03:39#5

ABs by 9

France by 11

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Oct 2023, 06:29
#6
08 Oct 2023, 06:29#6

This Irish team will not be beaten easily...but they're on a big winning streak and it is knockout rugby vs NZ...Ireland favorites but NZ will have a good shot...

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Oct 2023, 06:33
#7
08 Oct 2023, 06:33#7

At this stage I'll go with Ireland and Bokke making it trough the Qurters in narrow margin wins.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
08 Oct 2023, 07:03
#8
08 Oct 2023, 07:03#8
Boks by 5. ABs by 1…… Don’t think the Frog defence is as good as their attack and if Pollard starts and bangs over a few goals it’s going to be tough for the Frogs to come back. In knock out rugby I’m sure the Boks will be taking the points at every opportunity and won’t consider kicking into the corner unless they are well up. My prediction for the ABs is out of hope rather than any confidence. Not sure how we can break down the Irish excellent defence.
ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
08 Oct 2023, 07:22
#9
08 Oct 2023, 07:22#9

Fiji to the be the only Southern hemisphere representation in the semi finals!

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2023, 07:29
#10
08 Oct 2023, 07:29#10
All Blacks and France to go through.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Oct 2023, 09:23
#11
08 Oct 2023, 09:23#11
Boks and wee ABS to win.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
09 Oct 2023, 05:55
#12
09 Oct 2023, 05:55#12

Awwww Beanhead

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
09 Oct 2023, 12:19
#13
09 Oct 2023, 12:19#13

Rugby is a very political game, governed by trade interests.

No northern hemisphere big team (one felt as a potential winner) would be as bad as no southern hemisphere team.

At least, one team of each must make it.

So far, IR and SA rugby are showed as recipients for favourable ref decisions.

So: IR vs NZ: IR

FR vs SA rugby: SA rugby.

Expectations of controversial reffing calls if necessary.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Oct 2023, 16:49
#14
09 Oct 2023, 16:49#14
Boks will win if we get our selections right which means starting Am at 13, RG at 5 and Moodie ahead of Arendse on the wing. Pollard needs to start at 10 but Libbok must be on the bench AB’s are going to beat Ireland as Ireland are due a loss and the AB’s a due a turnaround England will beat Fiji and Wales will beat Argentina
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
09 Oct 2023, 18:44
#15
09 Oct 2023, 18:44#15

Here was me saying nice stuff about Ireland and then Stav says Fiji will beat us !! How mean 

I’m just hoping for some cracking matches this weekend. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Oct 2023, 18:52
#16
09 Oct 2023, 18:52#16

Although I think Ireland plays fantastic rugga, I think I'm gonna will NZ to win if I start watching the match...having said that...Ireland - Bokke would probably be the epic final that would make this RWC...the Irish really deserve it an d we're more than good enough to deserve defending our title. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Oct 2023, 18:58
#17
09 Oct 2023, 18:58#17

Poms and Wales going through, although I'm hoping Argie can play to potential and upset the Taffies.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
09 Oct 2023, 19:01
#18
09 Oct 2023, 19:01#18

Tough road ahead for the Springboks.

If they manage a win against France they should go all the way to the final.

But it is going to be a hard and difficult time for them but with a bit of luck and no serious injuries or cards  to the top players the remaining games will be close.

But looking forward to some great rugby by the Springboks in this final stretch.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Oct 2023, 19:09
#19
09 Oct 2023, 19:09#19

Ja, no shame in losing to France...but the Bokke will be up for the challenge. 

ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
09 Oct 2023, 19:10
#20
09 Oct 2023, 19:10#20

Here was me saying nice stuff about Ireland and then Stav says Fiji will beat us !! How mean 

I’m just hoping for some cracking matches this weekend.

I was kidding. Think all 4 Northern Hemisphere teams will win this weekend.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Oct 2023, 19:18
#21
09 Oct 2023, 19:18#21

Stav, Ireland will be easier to like without Sexton.   

...and the odds of all 4 NH teams going through is very slim...I will be very surprised if no SH team makes it to the final, never mind SFs...

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
09 Oct 2023, 19:24
#22
09 Oct 2023, 19:24#22

I know you were, Stav  .

Good luck this weekend and enjoy the games. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Oct 2023, 19:32
#23
09 Oct 2023, 19:32#23

The two star matches are too close to call. But reading Dawson’s predictions I think NH confidence is a bit overdone.

The most ironical sequence:

New Zealand beats Ireland

Wales beats Argentina

England beats Fiji

Boks beat France

……

All Blacks beat Wales

England beat South Africa

…..

All Blacks beat England …or England beats the All Blacks…any result in this game would be ironical.

To be clear I’m not predicting any of that, but the Gods Must Be Crazy.

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
09 Oct 2023, 19:35
#24
09 Oct 2023, 19:35#24

I don’t have over confidence, Mozart ! 

I’m already stressed about our match. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Oct 2023, 03:52
#25
10 Oct 2023, 03:52#25

Understood….losing a second game to Fiji might be a bitter pill. Still  I think England has the best probability of making the semis.

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
10 Oct 2023, 04:10
#26
10 Oct 2023, 04:10#26

England by 18

BL
Black & Red Club Pro255 posts
10 Oct 2023, 06:03
#27
10 Oct 2023, 06:03#27

I think the Bok forwards will take Du Pont out of he gets on the field and that will distrupt France.

New Zealanders are never ones to underestimate the Boks - NEVER.

I think the Boks will beat France.

Well the irish game - NZ have been waiting very quietly for this one for quite some time.

The AB's need to get their mongrel on like they did in Dublin in 2016.  

 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Oct 2023, 07:40
#28
10 Oct 2023, 07:40#28

This is Irelands best chance ever, but NZ is a formidable team...gonna be some good watching...and difficult picking a team to support...my heart will have to tell me while watching, cause ATM I have no idea who I would like to win.

The 3 other games are easy to support the underdogs...and the Bokke of coarse .

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
10 Oct 2023, 07:42
#29
10 Oct 2023, 07:42#29
NZ Bookies .......Ireland $1.80   NZ .....$2.00


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Oct 2023, 08:25
#30
10 Oct 2023, 08:25#30

Go wee abs, I have had more than enough of these arrogant NH types thinking they have this RWC sowed up.

On top of that we have  some so called Bok supporters hoping the Boks crash so that they can have yet another go at Rassie. 

I believe both the Boks and wee abs can win and hope they do. 

Bok Nz  final would be epic! 



DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Oct 2023, 09:00
#31
10 Oct 2023, 09:00#31

I haven't seen much arrogance from anyone in the NH. If anything they respect the challenge more than our fanbase do. I see more honesty and humility. Ireland are on a winning streak, and that is set for a loss sooner rather than later.

IRELAND vs NEW ZEALAND

The odds of them extending that winning streak to a final are rather slim, no matter how well they have been playing. Given their history in going out early at WCs, I feel the Bok win might be their high point. New Zealand have looked better after their loss to France, but it hasn't been against quality teams. New Zealand are not at their best, in what is the lowest point in their entire rugby history. However, they will have some confidence, and in a knock-out, with strike power remaining, that is still a threat. I expect this game to be a very tense clash, but with New Zealand prevailing, and putting some distance between them and Ireland. 

FRANCE vs SOUTH AFRICA

France are dangerous, and clearly are the better side. However, not many teams seem to be able to strategize appropriately for the dour game the Boks bring. Will they be sucked into the mediocrity of the Boks? Will the ref give the Boks more of those penalty streams? I am anticipating some cards here to sway the contest, and I have a feeling it will be against France more than the Boks. It really depends on how France turn up and how they apply themselves. The Boks have the worst ranking lineout in the SH, they have the worst ranking defence of the top tier nations. They don't have one top tackler in the competition. They cannot create on attack, especially when Faf and Libbok are together. The rugby IQ of the team is exceedingly low. I cannot see the Boks winning if France are playing well. If France are sloppy, defend passively, leave a cushion on the outside, or fail to deal with the high ball, then it becomes a completely different game. Seeing as I expect it to be scrappy, I have a feeling the Boks will have some chances with their speed. It defies logic, but I think the Boks will get through and live to fight another day. 

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
10 Oct 2023, 10:18
#32
10 Oct 2023, 10:18#32

Don’t think the Frog defence is as good as their attack

By metrics, FR has had the best defence of the tournament so far.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
10 Oct 2023, 10:51
#33
10 Oct 2023, 10:51#33
France just like Ireland, has created a winning culture. They are well oiled machines that work reliably…there Forward packs are standing up to SH power and combined with there clinical Attack plays, wil be hard to beat come this weekend. That is if they can with stand the pressure of a WC Knock-outs. The Boks and AB will be Amped to prove that they the best and a small advantage will be the Fact that they have been here before and are Familiar with those pressures…for me it’s to close to call…but The Paddies and Frenchies will be favourites.
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Oct 2023, 11:04
#34
10 Oct 2023, 11:04#34

They are the favourites, but things seldom work out as planned in these kinds of games. It would be bizarre for both NH sides to win, no matter how well they are playing, or how poor New Zealand and the Boks have been. It is most likely that New Zealand will prevail, and the FRA/RSA game is a 50/50, with France being the favourites. It defies logic in many respects, but it has the scent of the rugby gods about it. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
10 Oct 2023, 12:08
#35
10 Oct 2023, 12:08#35
This is probably wishful thing but ABs by 3 over Ireland; Boks by 3 over France; sadly Fiji to loose by 6 against Poms; Wales beat Argentina (welsh injuries could derail this). A lot has to go right for ABs to win but I feel they are ready & will give it their best.
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Oct 2023, 12:41
#36
10 Oct 2023, 12:41#36

New Zealand have the tools, and are in the best space they could be given the circumstances. As usual, will Fozzie Bear get the tactics right? Fiji will need a miracle to overcome England. They have lost to Fiji recently, but I don't think that'll be relevant. Wales and Argentina will be a 50/50. So much depends on which Argie side turns up. For the sake of the competition, I hope they both go full tilt. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Oct 2023, 16:19
#37
10 Oct 2023, 16:19#37

Argentina struggles against the Wales play style...similar to the Bokke style of a few years back.

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
10 Oct 2023, 16:47
#38
10 Oct 2023, 16:47#38

They don't struggle to play anyone. They sometimes just don't turn up. I cannot define what that is. Not having a domestic game with strong roots? P layers scattershot across Europe? Cultural mentality? I have no idea. They have the tools. They have had the most talented backs in SH rugby for nearly a decade, and more than enough power up front. When they switch it on, they are very tough to beat. 

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