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WD you get Peyper

Started by Mozart16 REPLIES342 VIEWS· 24 Mar 2017, 03:18
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:18
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24 Mar 2017, 03:18#1
'Jaco Peyper will referee one of the three Tests between the All Blacks and the British & Irish Lions in June. . World Rugby announced on Thursday that the 36-year-old South African, who has refereed in 36 Tests, will take charge of the first game between the All Blacks and the Lions at Eden Park in Auckland on 24 June. . Jérôme Garcès will be the man with the whistle in the second Test to be played in Wellington, while his French compatriot Romain Poite will referee the third and final match of the series.' . ........Peyper, Poite and Garces. I guess if you appoint one controversial ref, might as well appoint three.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:22
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24 Mar 2017, 03:22#2
 None of the chosen trio have officiated in an AB game when the ABs have been defeated.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 03:34
#3
24 Mar 2017, 03:34#3
 True Blob, but WD was a bit, shall I say bemused, at some of Peyper's decisions in Dublin.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
24 Mar 2017, 04:04
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24 Mar 2017, 04:04#4
 Peyper doesnt exactly know how to make a game flow .Could be worse I suppose .Just so long as he keeps it the same for both teams it wont be a problem .Having players  from 5 of the top 10 teams in rugby narrows the choice of refs I guess.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Mar 2017, 04:51
#5
24 Mar 2017, 04:51#5
 Peyper and Berry is definitely not great advertising for SA rugga, but I suppose Peyper is the better of the two.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2017, 05:27
#6
24 Mar 2017, 05:27#6
 Two school master types....I prefer a more relaxed guy like Glenn Jackson.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Mar 2017, 06:32
#7
24 Mar 2017, 06:32#7
 I like Glen too.
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
24 Mar 2017, 07:11
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24 Mar 2017, 07:11#8
 Are you suggesting the ref have an influence on the outcomes of the All Blacks games 
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Mar 2017, 07:14
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24 Mar 2017, 07:14#9
 Some refs are blinded by the AB halos
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Mar 2017, 07:26
#10
24 Mar 2017, 07:26#10
 Most refs Blob!Luke, Peyper is a cockey little git and it's a lottery to know in advance which team will be shafted by his blunders.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
24 Mar 2017, 15:03
#11
24 Mar 2017, 15:03#11
 Yeah hes retired Cloudy ,training new refs I think ?He copped a lot of unwarranted criticism almost all from people hanging for the ABs to lose ,the only game he reffed that bugged me was the draw in Brisbane where he obviously took all the crap to heart and played almost no advantage .
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
24 Mar 2017, 16:04
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24 Mar 2017, 16:04#12
Cloudy,
Joubert has taken a position with the Refs association. I understand it has to do with training and assessment of referees worldwide.
That said he has had to relinquish international reffing.
But he has recently officiated in a few 7's games.
Hep he did take an enormous amount of head in the last WC but I always thought he was a fair ref and above all a decent chap.
As most guys born in Pietermaritzburg are.

 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Mar 2017, 18:26
#13
24 Mar 2017, 18:26#13
 

Rugby: ABs draw the short straw on refs for Lions; Gregor Paul NZ Herald


In the lottery that is test match refereeing appointments, the All Blacks won't feel like they had the winning ticket on hearing that Jaco Peyper and Romain Poite are going to respectively have charge of the first and third tests against the Lions.

Statistically, those two are great appointments as the All Blacks have never lost a test when either has been the referee. The All Blacks have played 11 tests under Peyper and won 10 and drawn one. Under Poite, they have played six and won the lot.

But beneath the numbers lies a different story. Peyper has twice endured catastrophically bad nights while refereeing the All Blacks. The first was in Sydney 2014 when he penalised the All Blacks 17 times and wrongly in one case - as he would later admit - yellow-carded two players.

The game ended in a draw and with All Blacks coach Steve Hansen saying: "Where do you want me to start [as to what Peyper got wrong]? The free-kicks he felt were wrong.

He's not sure why he called pre-engage [in two scrums].

The yellow card was wrong ... the first one [to Wyatt Crockett]. The ball was out. There were quite a few things we had a chat about. I respect the man for his honesty and he's no different to the players and sometimes you have a bad day.

"He just had a bad day at the office. He's put his hand up but I have to emphasise it wasn't just his problem - we had a hell of a bad day ourselves."

The second shocker by Peyper was in Dublin last year where he missed 12 incidents that were put in front of the citing commissioner and probably, under the edict enforced by World Rugby around high tackling, should have red and not yellow-carded Malakai Fekitoa in the second half.

Poite's biggest meltdown came in 2013 at Eden Park when he wrongly yellow-carded South Africa's Bismarck du Plessis for a legal tackle on Dan Carter and then had to send the Springbok hooker off later in the game for a high and dangerous tackle on Liam Messam.

World Rugby issued a statement of apology to the Boks and Poite was removed from active service for 10 months.

That Peyper and Poite have shown themselves to be vulnerable to pressure and prone to collapsing underneath it, doesn't bode well.

The sad truth about modern test football is that referees too often have significant influence on the outcome. The pace and intensity of test football and the ambiguity of the rules has meant that in recent years, a handful of tests have seen the officiating fall under scrutiny.

The Lions series is one of the biggest events in the game. The hype goes off the scale and the pressure through the roof. As much as it is the ultimate test for the players, so too is it the ultimate challenge for referees.

In the last series the Lions played in 2013 against Australia, New Zealand referee Chris Pollock was verbally set upon by Lions coach Warren Gatland after the first test.

There were complaints about the way Pollock handled the breakdown. They affected his mental wellbeing.

"I copped a lot of criticism and it was hard for me at the time to take because I'd never experienced it," Pollock revealed earlier this year. "The one thing you learn is the higher up you go, the mistakes you make get blown up. I had another two weeks in that Lions environment where I was copping grief pretty much anywhere I went."

Jerome Garces of France has the second test in Wellington.

NZ Herald

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So meone what balanced point of view as he points out the mistakes made against the ABs & also those that were mistakes against the opposition. Please note sabbs that he says the tackle on Carter was legal

All we all want is consistency & not consistently wrong.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Mar 2017, 21:37
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24 Mar 2017, 21:37#14
 Pollock is another good reff.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2017, 02:31
#15
25 Mar 2017, 02:31#15
I would be least concerned about Garces.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Mar 2017, 07:12
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25 Mar 2017, 07:12#16
 
It's bad form taking a little something from under the counter .. and then not doing your part.

You've got your childrens college to think of.





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WardadPro6,663 posts
25 Mar 2017, 10:24
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25 Mar 2017, 10:24#17
 One thing I will say about the Saffa refs is that they have more than wiped away any thing from the pre admission era .
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