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We hqave had oodles of writings on this Board about Marshall - but

Started by clevermike5 REPLIES277 VIEWS· 07 Feb 2014, 16:05
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Feb 2014, 16:05
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07 Feb 2014, 16:05#1

what now?   please read je following and let us hear about what you make out of it:-


"For the second week in succession high-profile Rugby League convert Benji Marshall failed to live up to the pre-match hype.

The spotlight shone brightly on Marshall in the build-up to the game, but it was the New Zealand-born Rugby League convert Alofa Alofa that lit up a Super Rugby trial between the Blues and Waratahs in Sydney on Friday.

Alofa even outshone illustrious teammate Israel Folau as the former Aucklander produced two evasive runs before deservedly nailing the game-sealing try as the Waratahs triumphed 33-12.

The 22-year-old was a member of the Roosters Under-20 squad in 2011 and mentioned as a possible heir to Anthony Minichiello - until Kiwis star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck burst on to the NRL scene.

Now the wing is starting to make an impression in the 15-man code, as Marshall continues to make a less eye-catching transition.

Marshall, who like last week was replaced at half-time, spent the bulk of the opening quarter waiting expectantly on defence near the Blues goal-line as the Waratahs dominated a protracted and initially one-sided scrummaging battle.

And Kurtley Beale, who started at fullback, also put his name forward to begin his comeback season at the Waratahs in the hotly-contested No.10 jersey, after igniting the NSW backline with the opening try, some sharp passing and then a brilliant first-half chip-and-chase.

Friday's match started as a dour struggle, but soon opened up, with Beale, Israel Folau and rookie flyer Alofa putting together a tidy highlights package to kick-start the Waratahs season.

Blues No.10 Marshall was constantly on the back foot in his 40 minutes on the field, playing behind an overpowered pack missing several All Blacks forwards.

But if Friday's hit-out was any indication, Marshall faces a steeper learning curve in his new code than many League converts before him, struggling to find his place in the game.

The former Kiwis captain was steamrolled by giant Waratahs back row forward Will Skelton as NSW took an early 14-0 lead.

His timing proved out when he did finally get the ball in his hands, failing to find touch from a penalty and throwing a dud pass into an unsuspecting teammate.

Marshall was replaced at half-time, coinciding with the benchmark of cross-code stars, Folau taking the field for the opposition - although the NSW fullback made a rare error, fumbling a kick which allowed Charles Piutau to bring the Blues' back into the match at 21-12.

However, Folau made amends just 10 minutes later when he put Stephen Hoiles over in the corner with the silkiest of flick-passes to put the result beyond doubt.

NSW held the ball for virtually the entire opening 11 minutes of the match, before Beale scooped up a loose pass from halfback Nick Phipps and surged over from close range.

Bernard Foley started at five-eighth and also scored a try, but it was Beale who put the No.10 through a hole in the 13th minute with a pin-point face-ball at the line.

The Waratahs' backs interchanged positions throughout the night, but the most revealing find of the night was West Harbour product Alofa - who finished off the try of the night in the 67th minute.

"The effort he showed to score the try where he was down on his back only a couple of seconds before and got back up. That's what this team is trying to become," said coach Michael Cheika of the rookie-contracted Alofa, who last played against Marshall in a Roosters versus Wests Tigers NRL trial two years ago.

"That shows he's obviously hungry and he wants an opportunity so he definitely gave himself a shot at it that's for sure."


Reading the article it is clear that there is one thing that I have referred to previously and that is the poor forward combination that impacted on the Blues last year and will continue to impact on them this year.    


Look - I know the pre-season trials are not really a guide - but a loss as bi g as this one is a disastrous forecast as to what is in the offing.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
07 Feb 2014, 21:57
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07 Feb 2014, 21:57#2
 It could be another year of singing the Blues for the Auckland supporters.
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poi-ePro1,044 posts
07 Feb 2014, 22:06
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07 Feb 2014, 22:06#3
Possibly Sharkbok, always exciting backs but nothing resembling a really competitive tight 5 for some time.  Mind you most of the Blues 11 all blacks were back in Auckland, that makes a difference
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
07 Feb 2014, 22:17
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07 Feb 2014, 22:17#4
 Pre-season games are a shocking indicator.... seem to remember my Chiefs winning 3 from 3 pre-season a few years back and then losing their first 4 games straight!
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
08 Feb 2014, 00:34
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08 Feb 2014, 00:34#5

 ...not so clever mike the Sharkies lost their first preseason game too so thats the season over for them as well is'nt it lol ?

 

..Warratahs maybe the Aussie team to watch though now you mention this new kiwi winger they have combining with Folau and Beale...

 

...Benji played his first 40 minutes of competitive rugby last week and the same this week another half agame so far eighty minutes and you've written him off already lol...not much of an apprenticeship that..

 

...and remember it's just preseason games with unlimited substitutions and 28 players or so in each team playing against each other...

 

...maybe Benji needs a bit more time to find his feet so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt and with Nonu running off him he might look even better....

 

..i'm sure the Chiefs will look after him next week...

CR
Crusaders#1Club Pro179 posts
08 Feb 2014, 05:06
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08 Feb 2014, 05:06#6
  1.  A different perspective for you Mike
  2. Benji Marshall outside comfort zone for Blues

    CHRIS BARCLAYLast updated 07:21 08/02/2014ShareGetty ImagesFINDING HIS FEET: Benji Marshall struggled in the first half as the Blues were under pressure from the Waratahs.

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    The venue was familiar. Family, friends and fellow Kiwis were supportive in the stands, yet Benji Marshall still played outside his comfort zone when his Super Rugby initiation continued against the NSW Waratahs in Sydney last night.

    It didn't end in tears like Marshall's 200th for the Wests Tigers last August - his farewell on home soil and the penultimate game of his NRL career - but there was still a sense of unfinished business as he dissected his contribution to the Blues' 33-12 defeat at Allianz Stadium.

    The outcome was similar to South Sydney's winning margin that night and although the scoreline was secondary, a pre-season hit out is a trial in every sense of the word for the former Kiwis captain.

    Kurtley Beale might have been playing his first game for the Waratahs since 2011 but it was Marshall's return to Sydney that was always going to a focal point of a typically error-prone and occasionally frenetic encounter.

    Ultimately Beale and his rival for the pivot role Bernard Foley were the most accomplished first five-eighths on display, while Chris Noakes also played the second half as if he wasn't playing his second game of rugby in 14 years.

    Marshall emphasised that timeframe as he performed a critical analysis on his 40-minute exposure to a near full-strength Waratahs line-up.

    The Blues, with the bulk of their 11 All Blacks back in Auckland, were expected to be on the back foot, a scenario that means Marshall is still finding his feet in a new working environment.

    In contrast to his debut against the Hurricanes last weekend, Marshall was consigned to defensive duties for the bulk of the opening quarter as the Wallaby-laden pack ruled the set piece and breakdown.

    Pressure was alleviated by teammates when he was not required to clear the lines and defensively he muscled up until 135kg lock Will Skelton was never going to be stopped at close range.

    Offensively, Marshall couldn't expect to match the creativity offered by Foley and Beale although he did lay on a perfect short ball - the incision he perfected during his 11-season NRL career.

    There was also a missed touch finder from a penalty and a pass knocked on by an unsuspecting teammate - the sort of "learnings" Marshall needs to absorb before a potential fully-fledged debut against the Highlanders in Dunedin on February 22.

    "It's definitely another step in the right direction from a learning point of view.

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    "The expectation has been massive but you've just got to embrace the expectation and try and get better," he said, pointing out: "It's my second game in 14 years, I can still keep building."

    Marshall nominated cleaning out at the collision as one of his major work-ons although he occasionally made a nuisance of himself in an area the Waratahs were dominating even before Wallabies openside Michael Hooper was brought on after halftime.

    Alignment and defensive reads are also no longer from a league playbook and Marshall reckoned he "played a little bit too flat at times."

    Blues coach John Kirwan admitted Marshall found life more challenging against the Waratahs and reiterated one of league's most elusive runners would take time to transfer his skills to rugby.

    "He's just building into it. I thought he settled well last week, (last night) was a little bit harder because we started the first 20 minutes five penalties against us, we hadn't had the ball.

    "It was a difficult night for him. He'll just keep learning .... no real issues."

    Kirwan said Marshall was not the only newcomer that needed to adapt after an inexperienced pack were outmuscled.

    "There were some young boys out there and they'll be coming away realising that you've got to win the contact in this game to win the footy," he said, after a pack missing Keven Mealamu, Tony Woodcock, Charlie Faumuina, Steven Luatua and Jerome Kaino struggled to impose themselves.

    Meanwhile, despite the anxiety associated with a career change, Marshall was looking forward to a relaxing Saturday on common ground.

    "My little brother's playing an under-20s trial for Wests Tigers, so I'll go and check that out."

    NSW Waratahs 33 (Kurtley Beale, Will Skelton, Bernard Foley, Stephen Hoiles, Alofa Alofa tries; Foley 3 con; Beale con)


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