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We lose to the worst Aussie team in recent memory

Started by Mozart21 REPLIES879 VIEWS· 08 Sept 2018, 17:10
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Sept 2018, 17:10
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08 Sept 2018, 17:10#1
This was a very inept Aussie team. Beale was at his bumbling worst, they had no fetching capability without Pocock and they kept giving the Boks a lifeline with silly penalties. But still we never really looked like scoring in the second half....until the end , when a scrumming penalty for the Boks set up our last effort. Louw cleverly got himself over the line for a potentially winning try, unfortunately denied by the Marx double knock. Those last minutes showed the bankruptcy of our centres.....crash ball running by both Kriel and Duh led to nothing. Kriel in particular was pathetically hesitant in the left corner. Willie, Faf and Jantjies wasted plenty of chances.....and our wings are going to see lots of high balls next week. Also very sub standard our loosies.....with the ponderous Stephanie and feeble Whiteley making up numbers. Kolisi had a decent game, beating 7 defenders, our only attacking option. The Aussies present no challenges at scrum time, but apart from an early Kitshoff effort, and a hinging call against Sio trying to milk a penalty.... it was not until the end were we able to dominate again and win a scrum penalty. The ABs are killing the Bargie scrum as I'm watching....next week could be rough if we persist with Fatty Malherbe. Marx was quiet again with one poor lineout throw....this continues to be an issue. And who called that tragic long throw that led to the Oz try? Etzebeth had a solid game and Mostert made the most tackles at 16 out of 18. We need to shift him to flank in place of Stephanie and start Snyman with Etzebeth. But this team is no better than Coetzee's team......worse in fact.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2018, 17:26
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08 Sept 2018, 17:26#2

Mozart with his normal twisted BS  -  cannot believe  10% of the above drivel,

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Sept 2018, 18:20
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08 Sept 2018, 18:20#3
Erasmus' experimenting now leaves us pretty much nowhere. Questions for abound for the ABs game.
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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
08 Sept 2018, 19:50
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08 Sept 2018, 19:50#4
Argentina could possibly beat Australia, they did seem to push the All Blacks in New Zealand a bit closer- albeit it was not the AB A team.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
08 Sept 2018, 23:53
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08 Sept 2018, 23:53#5

...not much between the teams except the Aussies played with more heart...from a developmental perspective not a bad result for Cheika with an experimental side but it's smart trialing new players, different combinations and configurations in between RWC's.... i,e building depth instead of just sticking with the status quo which is what SA appears to be doing and going nowhere...

..... gives ever increasing options in the absence of key players like Folau , Kerevi and Pocock - the Toomua / Hodge combo the latest revelation in a long line of centre trial and error experiments for Cheika...bringing in Samu from the Crusties another example of harnessing form players...

Despite the injuries the Aussies are demonstrating the ability to adapt and still be successful which will only help their confidence going forward...a win against SA albeit an ugly win is good but from a preparatory standpoint for the next RWC an even better result for Cheika.....

The Aussies are on track to being a competitive unit at the next RWC...a team as injury hit as they are and that can make as many mistakes as they did and still win will be right there in the mix...

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2018, 00:24
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09 Sept 2018, 00:24#6
Are you serious? Absent a small touch on the ball, Louw scores in a kickable position and the Boks win away from home. My criticism is it shouldn't even have been close these Aussies were so bad. We will beat them by 10 points or more in RSA.....they still can't scrum, their locks are average, and the Boks counter ruck eliminated the Aussie fetching game. And unlike good Aussie teams there was no creativity in their backline play....only Beale bumbling away.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
09 Sept 2018, 00:36
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09 Sept 2018, 00:36#7

We will beat them by 10 points or more in RSA

... Like last year?

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Sept 2018, 02:17
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09 Sept 2018, 02:17#8

They'll probably be stronger and healthier for the return fixture. So, it's no guarantee. If Rassie doesn't get his selections right we are in trouble. No more games, no more delusional idealism. He needs to get a grip. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Sept 2018, 08:57
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09 Sept 2018, 08:57#9

There were four serious problems in the selections in the test yesterday.  Those were -

*   Mbonambi at hooker;

*   Mostert at lock;

*   Whiteley at no 8; and 

*   Jantjies at flyhalf.

One can only hope that De Jager is fit asap and that there is a serious adjustment in the squad insofar as the loosies are concerned - Louw is a no-no and so is Whiteley.   As to the flyhalfs I would pick Willemse all the time ahead of Jantjies.    If a third flyhalf is required I would rather have Goosen in the squad ahead of Jantjies.

As to Mbonambi I would rather have Akker as back-up hooker.    

Any other changes would cause the team to go backwards.  

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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Sept 2018, 09:34
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09 Sept 2018, 09:34#10

Trouble is the %'s Oom Mike.

Everybody knows Akkers should be there but drop Mbonambi and you have to drop a deserving white guy somewhere else. Same goes for Jantjies, Papier and The Beast.

Do you want Mahoje or Marvin Orie starting?

It's a balancing act that Rassie is struggling with.

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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Sept 2018, 09:34
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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Sept 2018, 09:34
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09 Sept 2018, 09:34#12
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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Sept 2018, 09:34
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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Sept 2018, 09:37
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09 Sept 2018, 09:37#14

Also,

Who called the Lineout yesterday. That overthrow from Mbonambi was a set move for Kolisi to run onto.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
09 Sept 2018, 10:33
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09 Sept 2018, 10:33#15

Indeed ... and Bongi, our best line out thrower, according to some on here, missed his target by some way.

The result ... an easy 7 pointer to the injury riddled Ozzies ... as a result of ... TWO unmerited quotas ... who had no business wearing the green and gold.

So yes, Xavi ...  I too would much prefer Akker in the mix, as everything is won or lost upfront. Don't you know that?

Besides, there is no real difference between Kolisi and Mohoje anyway. Our back-row is totally ineffective as it is, so an additional quota there wouldn't matter in the end.

Oh and another thing ... Rassie is in favour of transforming the Boks. He's fully committed to the cause. Haven't you heard?

So, no ... he isn't struggling with anything regarding race based selection. It's what he wants.

Try using your head the next time you post something ... ok?


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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Sept 2018, 10:40
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09 Sept 2018, 10:40#16

Jimmies rustled much ?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Sept 2018, 10:44
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09 Sept 2018, 10:44#17

xavi

I think Mostert called the line-outs,   In that bad line-out leading to the try Mostert and Etzebeth was in the line-out Du Toit was wider out than Kolisi.   It was BS anyway. 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
09 Sept 2018, 11:10
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09 Sept 2018, 11:10#18

I am sure that even the highly confused Rassie will opt for the rightful owner of the 5 jersey ... once De Jager recovers from his injuries that is.

I do however doubt that we'll see much of an improvement in our back-row.

Kriel, Wiese, Vermeulen ... will never happen.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2018, 13:21
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09 Sept 2018, 13:21#19
So now you like Lomp because your leader does. Funny, I can recall you deriding him.....Kriel too small, Wiese bog ordinary, Vermeulen not available. Any other suggestions?
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Sept 2018, 13:25
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09 Sept 2018, 13:25#20

Go easy on Squeal and Pip Moz, they're just winding us up. They have to be! 

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
09 Sept 2018, 13:28
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09 Sept 2018, 13:28#21

Trouble is the %'s Oom Mike.

There is no quota policy, only a tale to try to divert from the poverty of SA rugby.


That was a game between two countries playing loser rugby. Winning that type of game means nothing, especially not that the winner plays winner rugby.

AU rugby is still in the same loser rugby brand.

SA rugby never were a powerhouse, the WC victories were gifted  in order to help SA rugby to develop a localized rugby, which is failed.

Terminate rugby in SA. Keeping to go is pointless and harmful.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
09 Sept 2018, 13:35
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09 Sept 2018, 13:35#22

But this team is no better than Coetzee's team......worse in fact.


It is better because the previous coach was a quota coach. This one is not, so one step closer to enligthment and revelation.

And the end.

Terminate rugby in SA.

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