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Welsh hope vs Bok Puzzle

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BuzzClub Pro175 posts
08 Nov 2013, 16:54
#1
08 Nov 2013, 16:54#1

I think the Welsh have a team that can push the Boks but they over estimate themselves , as being part of a Lions squad that beat a very weak Australian side. So I think its a great big bubble they live in, one filled with thin air and dreams

 

 

The Springboks on the other hand , after a pretty good Championship where they showed growth seem to be testing their formula by changing things up. So do we have cracks in the armour ?

 

 

what else have i missed here ?

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
08 Nov 2013, 17:01
#2
08 Nov 2013, 17:01#2
 They can beat us in all the set pieces and negate us at the breakdown. We have not developed as much as we think, in fact our traditional strengths have become a liability. The kick-offs, lineouts, aerial superiority and defence have all but vanished. We must be smarter and more accurate. This can be  solid win if we play right, but if the Welsh get a foot in the door we are in for a very torrid roughing- up.
BU
BuzzClub Pro175 posts
08 Nov 2013, 17:05
#3
08 Nov 2013, 17:05#3

I agree with our kick off flaw , where as i disagree about breakdowns as we have upped the ante . Our Kick offs have become a soft spot and an area to attack us, as the Kiwis did so very well. But we have in my opinion started to overtake the Kiwis as turn over specialists. With regards to defence , we have been better but the selection we see turning up on saturday will be probably our best defensive side we have put out in a very long while.

I agree with your closing lines.

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
08 Nov 2013, 17:14
#4
08 Nov 2013, 17:14#4
We have indeed improved immeasurably at the breakdown and in contact but Wales have bulk to throw around as well and can match if not better us on the day. I agree on the selections though, but there are question marks over JP and Fourie's capacity to return to test level. Fingers crossed all goes well. If Fourie and JP pitch-up we can shut them out. It's certainly a tantalizing prospect to have some steel in the defence again, especially with Jean playing the best rugby of his career this year.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2013, 17:25
#5
08 Nov 2013, 17:25#5

Three things worry me about the Boks

 

1) A new tighthead in Malherbe, who frankly hasn't looked that hot since his return from injury. We could see the Boks folding at scrum time and they never play well when that happens.

 

2) The talk of winning not being the only thing on the tour....whereas Wales are revved up and see this as their big chance to capture a second Bok scalp.

 

3) Five changes in the Ellis Park team...even if you like them, that's a lot of change.

BU
BuzzClub Pro175 posts
08 Nov 2013, 17:26
#6
08 Nov 2013, 17:26#6

JP and Fourie have never shirked their responsibilty for the Boks, and i dont believe they will start now. Another board member commented on JP's lack of pace, well JP may not have the out and out pace but he is brilliant when he cuts back into the midfield and creates overlaps for speedy guys like Bryan to exploit.

 

This isnt our quickest side but its a very intelligent one.  

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
08 Nov 2013, 17:39
#7
08 Nov 2013, 17:39#7
 That's a very good point Mozart. Scrum will be a big factor and without Jannie we are without a tried and tested tighthead. As the French say, no tighthead, no win.
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