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What has happened to Ashwin Willemse?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2018, 16:16
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18 Jun 2018, 16:16#1

The following from News24:-


"SuperSport were due to receive the independent review into the Ashwin Willemse studio walkout storm later on Monday ... but it will be minus vital testimony from the key source of the pundit and former Springbok wing himself.


Sport24 has learnt from reliable sources that Willemse, who sensationally downed his microphone during live Super Rugby studio coverage on May 19 and walked out of the studio, has not presented evidence to the probe, under the charge of Advocate Vincent Maleka.


Contacted for comment, Maleka confirmed that he would be handing in his report on Monday - he had earlier asked for an extra week to complete it after an initial deadline of June 11 had been set.


But he would not say whether all relevant parties in the dispute had presented statements to him, advising Sport24 to contact attorney Dario Milo, a specialist in corporate and tax dispute resolution.

He could not immediately be reached.


Willemse was non-committal when asked whether he had presented a statement to the inquiry, saying: “At this point I have no comment on the matter. I would be willing to chat to you at a later stage … you have my number.”


But it has been learnt from other sources that Maleka has had to bypass testimony from Willemse in assembling his report and findings.


The major figures in the controversy - Willemse and fellow-punditry heavyweights Nick Mallett and Naas Botha, who were on duty together when Willemse downed tools - have consistently stayed largely mum to the media subsequently.

Willemse told a live audience at the time that he was “tired of being patronised” by the other two, who “played during the apartheid era”.


He also said he had endured being branded a “quota player” throughout his career.  It is known that widespread interviews have been conducted by Maleka’s panel throughout the SuperSport pecking order following the incident.


According to sources, no evidence of race-related misconduct by Mallett or Botha will be presented in the findings, and that the pair, who have been inactive since the uproar although on full remuneration, should soon be reinstated to studio roles.

It is understood that Maleka’s area of jurisdiction specifically covered the May 19 flashpoint itself, and not any prior tensions; it has been fairly widely reported that Willemse and Mallett, in particular, have not seen eye to eye for some time.

Willemse is likely to be offered retention of his SuperSport duties as well, but the pair are unlikely to be placed in the same studio panel henceforth by mutual request.


Often a staple presence at the studio touchscreen, Willemse may also be offered more in the way of pitch-side presentation at major SA-hosted matches.


*SuperSport communications chief Clinton van der Berg, who would not comment on other aspects of the probe, asked that Sport24 contact him later in the day for when the corporation might issue a public statement following the report hand-in."


I always thought there were ulterior motives - mostly political - behind the Willemse's outburst on TV.  The fact that he did not submit any evidence on the issue, is really indicative of the above.   I think the man should be penalized by Supersport - but it is unlikely to happen.   He is likely to be re-assigned to another job - not in the studio this time around. 


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
19 Jun 2018, 00:40
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19 Jun 2018, 00:40#2

Having R60 million plus in the bank must affect the mindset ....... I dunno, probably mozart or Plum with his crypto coin stash might know.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Jun 2018, 04:39
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19 Jun 2018, 04:39#3

Attention seeking cry baby

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
19 Jun 2018, 08:03
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19 Jun 2018, 08:03#4
Under any other circumstance, in any other business, Willemse would have been fired for unprofessional conduct. That is the only possible just result. Anything else would be a complete joke. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jun 2018, 09:01
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19 Jun 2018, 09:01#5

There will be an announcement by Supersport today at 15:00 about their decision.   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jun 2018, 18:52
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19 Jun 2018, 18:52#6

The report has been released and indicated Willemse did not appear to give any evidence to the Advocate who was tasked to deal with the issue,  I believe  there could be only two potential reasons for Willemse's outburst,   Those are either -

*  potential enhancement of his political image; or

*  he did not watch the second half of the game and when asked to comment he could not/

There was no evidence of racism and the  report has now been forwarded to the Human Rights Commission.  

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sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
19 Jun 2018, 19:14
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19 Jun 2018, 19:14#7
If they are not guilty, then surely there should be repercussions of false accusations.
The commision was a waste of money. Another Indaba
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
19 Jun 2018, 22:48
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19 Jun 2018, 22:48#8

I don't think the commission was a waste of money because they found Mallett and Botha innocent of racism. 

This opens the possibility to sue Ashwin Willemse for defamation of character.


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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
19 Jun 2018, 23:20
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19 Jun 2018, 23:20#9

Huh - what is this?

All parties in Willemse-gate showed remorse
This is pure rubbish. One can only show remorse if you are guilty and the commission has found Mallett and Botha not guilty of any racism while on- or off air.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
19 Jun 2018, 23:41
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19 Jun 2018, 23:41#10

Hell, there would've been a furore if either Mallet or Botha ignored the commission & failed to front up .

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
19 Jun 2018, 23:48
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19 Jun 2018, 23:48#11

It's really easy Ash, you were labelled a quota because your black terrorist government openly called for quotas. You weren't very good, but that didn't stop whities singing your praises anyway. I think he got an award, SA player of the year or something. Oh the prejudice! 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Jun 2018, 09:13
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20 Jun 2018, 09:13#12

Agreed.

Willemse was nothing more than a token to appease the authorities.

He was appointed at Super Sport for the same reason. Skin colour.

It still cracks me up listening to this idiot slaughter the Englis h language. Much like Mike.

"It goes to so that the Sarks sould have sopped for additional front row cover in the off season" ...

He made a fool of himself in front of us all and he knows it. That's why he's refused to partake in any of the inquiries.

Hope we never see this quota again.

 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
20 Jun 2018, 09:25
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20 Jun 2018, 09:25#13

He's totally unsackable .

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Jun 2018, 10:12
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20 Jun 2018, 10:12#14

Cape Town – Fascinating insight into the clash of personalities between rugby pundits Nick Mallett and Ashwin Willemse comes out in the pages of the independent inquiry into the SuperSport studio walkout rumpus.

READ: The full Ashwin Willemse studio walk-off report

It will do little to supress the high likelihood, as reported on Sport24 earlier this week, that the pair will not be allied in the studio again, following Willemse’s downing of microphone and exit from the live broadcast of Super Rugby matches on May 19.

Nestled on page 22, almost halfway through probe convener Vincent Maleka’s 50-page report of his keenly-awaited review - publicly revealed on Monday - are aspects of former Springbok head coach Mallett’s three-hour testimony to him.

Test wing Willemse, by contrast, did not give evidence to the inquiry.

Maleka writes in the report, issued to media: “Although I did not interview Mr Willemse I was informed by both Messrs Mallett and (co-pundit and Bok flyhalf legend Naas) Botha that Mr Willemse was no pushover, and would strongly defend his views whenever he differed with theirs.

“(Mallett) references emails which he addressed to management at SuperSport, wherein he requested that he should not be rotated together with Mr Willemse for live studio broadcast.”

Excerpts from an October 2016 email from Mallett, to executive producer Scott Seward, are included, reading: “I really enjoy working with Bobs (Gcobani Bobo) and Xola (Ntshinga), Scott.

“They are a real pleasure ... Xola asks very good questions and Bobs knows enough about rugby to produce interesting clips for discussion.

“Unlike with the complex Ashwin, there are no agendas.

“It would be great if Ashwin could be moved ... where we don’t have to work together.

“I think he talks garbage, we irritate the hell out of each other and the working environment is just unpleasant and tense.

“I am very happy to work with Breyton (Paulse), Shimmy (Hanyani Shimange) or Bobs instead as, unlike with Ashwin, I respect their hard work and rugby opinions.”

Maleka also refers to September 2017 correspondence from Mallett to (another manager) Malcolm Russell, “wherein he indicated how well he worked with other colleagues such as ‘X’ (Ntshinga), Jean de Villiers and Breyton Paulse.”

The advocate concludes: “There is no doubt that Mr Mallett felt uncomfortable working with Mr Willemse, and expressed his preference to work with other colleagues.”


It goes to so ... oops ... I mean that they sould of known that it would all come crasing down around them at one stage or another ... and yet they persisted with it ...

It was inevitable.

How foolis.

I am delighted to see Mallet stand up for himself.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Jun 2018, 10:32
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20 Jun 2018, 10:32#15

Haha

The media tried to jump all over Mallet and Naas right from the outset and it shows how skewed and corrupt they are. If they were tried in the media court both would probably be sacked and shipped off with Ashwin taking over. 

All these liberal f-tard pseudo commie tossers who write the shit we are forced to read. No wonder Beeno prefers Alex Jones haha

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
20 Jun 2018, 10:39
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20 Jun 2018, 10:39#16

One might recall what happened to Derek Hougaaard for speaking 'his mind'.

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The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
20 Jun 2018, 14:15
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20 Jun 2018, 14:15#17

I actually believe Maaik and Ashwin should be able to talk about rugby on about the same level.

So Ashwin is welcome to join here to keep Maaik company...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jun 2018, 14:19
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20 Jun 2018, 14:19#18

This is getting worse.   Willemse wants to have the Equality Court deal with the matter.   How he will prove racism if there was none s going to be real fun to watch, 

Since he refused to put his case to the present investigator was really telling - he has no proof of racism and hope that he could use slogans he manufactured to swing the situation in his favour in the Equal ity Court.

It would be nice to see wat happens in that court - but then there is another issue.   He accused Mallett and Botha of racism in public.   Unless he can prove that in a court of law he may face millions claimed by those two for defamation.   

All this because he did not watch the second half of he game he was supposed to watch and when asked to comment he could not do so.   He then did the ordinary by incompetents and shouted racism.       

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jun 2018, 14:27
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20 Jun 2018, 14:27#19

Mallet is difficult to get along with in real life. Some might describe him as a bit of a d**s, but he is a damn good rugby analyst...Ashwin is no fool, but something is a bit off from my perspective...might be seen because of my white privilege or something. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jun 2018, 16:33
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20 Jun 2018, 16:33#20

The trooth fairy

We have one fool already as a member - and that fool thinks the better site members are fools,   But then what can one expect from a donkey brain knowing nothing about rugby.   

So now lets get back to it - your postings are only made to try and denigrate me - never in any way comments on the game of rugby.   Give us some rugby comments for a change please, dimness.      

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
21 Jun 2018, 02:36
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21 Jun 2018, 02:36#21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=bc1P68O91b8

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 Jun 2018, 14:00
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21 Jun 2018, 14:00#22

Twat now wants his day in "Equality Court".

Completely moronic if you think that he can simply claim racism without zero evidence since everything was filmed and recorded and then expect to get a result for himself in an institution with "Equality" in its name. He wants to go there because he knows that equality court is anything but equal.

Here...

Penny Sparrow said the word "Kaffir" -> Got a fine of R150K.

V Momberg said the word "Kaffir" -> Sent to prison.

Khumalo(Government Employee) said he would cleanse SA of whites IE Genocide -> He got counselling and a final warning.

Of the above three, there is only one that actually contravenes the constitution of South Africa. Surprise surprise...it was committed by a black person who works for the government and he didn't  lose his job, get a fine or any formal sentence. 

Wonder how many years Momberg would have gotten if she said she wanted to kill and/or get rid of all blacks in South Africa.

Equality Court hahahahahahahahahahaha

No wonder Ashwin wants to take his half arsed accusations there.

Obviously wants to stand on the stairs of the court with journalists around him and make some pre-planned statement that will assist whichever party has offered him a position/favour/sum of money.

Also probably a nice way to breathe new life into the ever failing reputation of the Equality Court and to remind blacks in SA that if ever they have an unsubstantiated claim against a white person there is a some place that will take them very seriously. Just a guess but leading up to next year's election we'll probably find  a few cases of whites being dragged through said institution. 

This is how desperate these idiots are to live on the back of being underprivileged in order to hide their incompetence. This is how unashamedly they seek to control the masses to their own ends. This is how powerless they actually are. They have all the power but blame their ineptitude on apparently having no power. 

If they actually cared about equality they'd see what's obvious...that these types of dreamed up incidents and accusations only serve to hold the people they supposedly care about back even more.

Hardly anything as foolish as perpetuating one's own people's inferiority complex. 

Hardly anyone as stupid as he who falls for it.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2018, 14:17
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21 Jun 2018, 14:17#23

Suddenly Willemse has seen has "Mandela moment" as quoted in the newspaper - at the same time he and his lawyer wants to meet with Supersport - probably to threaten them so as to retain his post on the panel and get rid of mallet and Botha otherwise he will take them to the Equality Court.

As you said - that Court is being used as a vehicle to get at the Whites in SA and I think they are not going to get away with this one.

Once t he hearing has been completed and before "judgement" is passed - Mallett and Botha should lay a civil case claiming R10 million each from Willemse for libel.  That would result in a proper court case and would lead to them getting paid out by the dolt - who was  poor in his evaluations of games anyway.  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2018, 21:16
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21 Jun 2018, 21:16#24

Willemse is a racist twi t. He is also a very poor analyst full of platitudes.

Miss Mallet who has real insight and understanding. Light years ahead of the halfwit Willemse

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Jun 2018, 11:38
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22 Jun 2018, 11:38#25




COSATU

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2018, 12:12
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22 Jun 2018, 12:12#26

This is fun from Cosato.   The majority of the poor has at least part of the DSTV platform of which Supersport is a component.  Most cannot watch rugby - but they can watch soccer.   So we have Cosato calling for a boycott when the Soccer WC is in full swing.   The result would be a joke.

The attack on DSTV is shown up as racist -  but what can be expected from a racist organization - who contributed to the destruction of service delivery and education in SA through their racist policies.   


   

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